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PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	May 14, 11, 22:19 #1
MPs have voted overwhelmingly in favour of new laws allowing for the construction of nuclear plants on Polish soil. U.S. concern Westinghouse has been reported as being amongst those keen to secure the commission. http://www.thenews.pl/business/artykul155304_polish-parliament-clears- way-for-nuclear-plant.html

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May 14, 11, 23:05 #2

We have seen petrolium wars since last century.
Next is nuclear wars..
There is no need to have nuclear bombs. Nuclear plants are kind of potential nuclear bombs.
So, with many countries already having nuclear plants, there will be no major powers in the world anymore. Those 5 permanent UN members who have veto powers are meaningless powers already.
With this decision of Poland parliament, Poland too decided to be among those "Do not make me angry, I too can be destructive."

Welcome to the community of powers, Poland.
You do not need to listen to orders of so-called powers of the world anymore.

This is only about energy? Petrolium too was only about energy.

scottie1113Threads: 11 Posts: 873 Joined: Mar 13, 07 ♂	May 14, 11, 23:32 #3
Say what? Your post is full of gibberish.

NomadatNetThreads: 6 Posts: 1,492 Joined: Mar 28, 09 ♂	May 15, 11, 00:36 #4
scottie1113: Say what? Your post is full of gibberish. Did you think much to say this. ?

pawianThreads: 90 Posts: 5,399 Joined: May 30, 08 ♂	May 15, 11, 00:38 #5
PennBoy: MPs have voted overwhelmingly in favour of new laws allowing for the construction of nuclear plants on Polish soil. At last.

NomadatNetThreads: 6 Posts: 1,492 Joined: Mar 28, 09 ♂	May 15, 11, 00:52 #6
Is there any organizations such as Greenpeace, etc protesting this over there in Poland? There have been many protests over here about such a project plan. People formed 160 km hand-chain around the town where nuclear energy plant is planned to be built. (final decision is not given here yet.)

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	May 15, 11, 01:04 #7
pawian: At last. Yea Poland isn't gonna build some out of date nuclear power plant and neglect safety like the Soviets did, and it isn't Japan where tsunamis or earthquakes threaten it. France and Germany have them with no major accidents, it's safe clean energy.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	May 15, 11, 01:25 #8
....at least it isn't anywhere near the german border...just in case...

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	May 15, 11, 01:35 #9
Bratwurst Boy: ....at least it isn't anywhere near the german border...just in case... Żarnowiec right in Tusk's back yard lol

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	May 15, 11, 01:46 #10
PennBoy: Żarnowiec right in Tusk's back yard lol So...he will know what he does...;)

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07 ♂	May 15, 11, 04:53 #11
Bratwurst Boy: ....at least it isn't anywhere near the german border...just in case... With the prevailing W ad NW winds in Poland, it would be silly to build them close to the Polish border. In case of a accident any airborne pollution would cover most of Poland. Those plants should be built in Easter Poland.

NomadatNetThreads: 6 Posts: 1,492 Joined: Mar 28, 09 ♂	Edited by: NomadatNet May 15, 11, 17:20 #12
Bratwurst Boy: ....at least it isn't anywhere near the german border...just in case... I put my nose into this nuclear project of Poland even from this 2500 km distance and warned them by an email about its risks. Are there no anti-nuclear-plant campaings over there in Poland like there are, here? What about West Europe? Greenpeace-like organizations are too lazy there?

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	May 15, 11, 17:59 #13
NomadatNet: I put my nose into this nuclear project of Poland even from this 2500 km distance and warned them by an email about its risks. Are there no anti-nuclear-plant campaings over there in Poland like there are, here? What about West Europe? Greenpeace-like organizations are too lazy there? There is no anti-nuclear movement in Poland it seems... (Germany is a special case anyhow!)

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May 15, 11, 22:49 #14

Bratwurst Boy:

There is no anti-nuclear movement in Poland it seems...

(Germany is a special case anyhow!)

I know the last anti-nuclear protests in Germany about a month ago.
But, I am not hearing any activity of Greenpeace like organizations in other bigs of Europe, such as UK, France, etc. These Greenpeace organizations show themselves only in smaller countries or only in countries where there is no nuclear plant? There is a very old nuclear plant in Armenia and it is threatening everywhere, from Russia to Turkey to Europe. But, there is no activity of Greenpeace there either.. Among all these countries, UK's position is nonunderstandable. They already keep control of petrol lands in Middle East. So, they don't need nuclear energy actually as France or Poland need.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	May 15, 11, 22:51 #15
I don't think Greenpeace is foremost about nuclear energy...they have other priorities....

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May 15, 11, 23:18 #16

I have seen civil organization activities much here including Greanpeace's - about nuclear...
It is not wrong to see them here (I too am anti-nuclear, am anti-petrolium-monopol-wilds as well), but, when I don't see them in Europe - it is suspectful organization, a biased organization..

Do you try to stop a nuclear plant project or do you try to close existing nuclear plants? Greenpeace-like organizations are trying to stop projects while they doing nothing about plants which already exist. They lost credit in my eyes. Anyway, their this bias didn't stop people here who are protesting a project plan.. When I read this news about Poland, I understood that Poland is forced to do the same mistake by countries who already done mistake by building nuclear plants..

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May 15, 11, 23:34 #17

Turkey is planning to construct 3 nuclear plants in 12 years. If you are an economically fast growing country and do not have natural energy sources in your country, you need more and cheap energy sources that is only nuclear. Importing energy is not secure everytime and it is expensive too such as natural gas and petroluem. Hydroelectric or termic plants, sun,wind energy will not be enough for sustainable industrial growth.

Despite its risks nuclear plants are inevitable for countries.

I hope Turkey will construct them asap and im my opinion Poland is on the right way too.

BBmanThreads: - Posts: 459 Joined: Jan 4, 11 ♂	May 15, 11, 23:40 #18
Great news. Finally Poland will be able to replace those dirty coal plants with a cleaner source of electricity.

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May 15, 11, 23:56 #19

rock:

I know. Tender resulted and one of these projects was given to Japan Toshiba, one to Russia and one to ? (I dont know this third - two are known / fixed.) Japan Toshiba (one of biggest in this nuclear plant in this field, who also bought shares of Westinghouse some years ago if I am not wrong) gone into silence after Japan nuclear plants things. Russia already passed their law about constructing a plant in Turkey and they plan to build the nuclear.

And, people, I heard 160 km of people forming a chain against nuclear in Mersin city. What these people are doing is correct. I can think of political games of bigs of world, but, they are trying to sell their stupidity to everywhere. If you buy it, you will have to close sooner or later.. Bigs too will have to close their nuclear plants sooner or later.. Or, since this is political game rather than energy need, I can guarantee you there is a nuclear world war in the horizon soon.. Such a world war can not be done twice. If they are interested in world war, they don't need to wait.. They can press on the buttons and they can crash nuclear plants so that radiation can be released..

I can prove renewable energies are better, much cheaper and its source is infinite comparing to such energy sources like petrol, nuclear, etc - but, they won't understand.. What they can understand is the power only. Hence, the destiny is nuclear world war.. We don't need another nuclear weapon nor nuclear plant for that. There are many already in the world..

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May 16, 11, 00:15 #20

NomadatNet:

Tender resulted and one of these projects was given to Japan Toshiba, one to Russia and one to ? (I dont know this third - two are known / fixed.)

None of them was resulted yet. One will be in Mersin, second in Sinop and third in Kırklareli (iğneada).

NomadatNet:

I can prove renewable energies are better, much cheaper and its source is infinite comparing to such energy sources like petrol, nuclear, etc

I think this is a nice tale, unfortunately they are not.

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Edited by: NomadatNet May 16, 11, 00:34 #21

rock:

None of them was resulted yet. One will be in Mersin, second in Sinop and third in Kırklareli (iğneada).

I think this is a nice tale, unfortunately they are not.

I knew two of them; Mersin tender was won by Russia company and Sinop was won by Japan Toshiba. I don't see any news about Toshiba lately. I heard Russians (Duma) approved realization of Russia company's nuclear plant in Mersin. Since this second seems to be sooner, there have been big protests here by locals and by country people in Mersin. (Were they organized by some anti-nuclear-ists? who are maybe actually against Russian's win of the tender there? or by anti-Turkeys who are against nuclears in Turkey? Just because anti-Turkey centers who already have nuclears in their own countries said nuclears are bad, there is no need to oppose them,, they already know they did bad.. and I already knew it was bad before.) Their behaviours are like that; we fell in marsh, you too, fall in marsh - Stupids.. If I too fall in marsh, how will you save yourself? Like that.. Buying nuclear is somethings like that in today world. They should close their nuclears which already exist..

While you are in marsh, in a nuclear marsh, a very risky technology, your questioning about from where to get energy is meaningless.. I'll say this.. Even petrolium is not an energy source actually. Just because people use it so, by burning in engines, etc., it doesn't mean petrol is energy source really. For me, for ex., it is plastic source.. When you start to think in such different directions, you can see that petrolium is considered as power tool for some stupids who are politicians in general and especially monarchies in particular rather than energy source need.. If it were considered as energy source, they wouldn't have killed millions of people.. They are in marsh of nuclear now and they are pulling our legs into nuclear tech. If you buy it, you too find yourself in nuclear marsh. Then, we alltogether can start to pray once we too find ourselves in this marsh..

GrzegorzK	May 18, 11, 09:37 #22
This is great news. Another step toward Poland becoming respected superpower again.

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May 18, 11, 09:51 #23

NomadatNet:

While you are in marsh, in a nuclear marsh, a very risky technology, your questioning about from where to get energy is meaningless.. I'll say this.. Even petrolium is not an energy source actually. Just because people use it so, by burning in engines, etc., it doesn't mean petrol is energy source really. For me, for ex., it is plastic source.. ramblings of an idiot ... If it were considered as energy source, they wouldn't have killed millions of people.. They are in marsh of nuclear now and they are pulling our legs into nuclear tech. If you buy it, you too find yourself in nuclear marsh. Then, we alltogether can start to pray once we too find ourselves in this marsh..

And here was I thinking that the days of lobotomies in psychiatric clinics were over ... :(. How wrong I was ... :S

NomadatNetThreads: 6 Posts: 1,492 Joined: Mar 28, 09 ♂	May 18, 11, 13:05 #24
GrzegorzK: This is great news. Another step toward Poland becoming respected superpower again. How? Even poor Armenia has nuclear plant.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	May 18, 11, 13:08 #25
GrzegorzK: This is great news. Another step toward Poland becoming respected superpower again. Hahaha. I can't even be bothered to comment, just...hahaahaha.

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