Rights group claims new proof of CIA flights to Poland

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Jul 31, 10, 04:50 #1

WARSAW—A rights group said Friday it had obtained records indicating that seven CIA planes landed in Poland in 2002 and 2003, backing claims of a secret interrogation facility for Al-Qaeda suspects.

The official records showed that five of the planes that landed at a remote northeastern airfield had arrived with passengers but left with only crew, the Warsaw branch of the independent Helsinki Foundation for Human Rights said.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view/20100731-284150/R ights-group-claims-new-proof-of-CIA-flights-to-Poland

What are peoples thoughts on this?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 08:46 #2
There was a documentary on this. A Polish guy was arrested for collaboration. Poland unquestionably has facilities in this regard, tucked away in remote forests.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 09:10 #3
is this some kind of surprise to you czarnkow?

Czarnkow1940Threads: 11 Posts: 167 Joined: Mar 5, 10 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 09:21 #4
plk123: s this some kind of surprise to you czarnkow? No not really

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 10:25 #5
Czarnkow1940: No not really ok Czarnkow1940: What are peoples thoughts on this? pretty sad that PL stooped that low for usa

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 12:13 #6
America flys civilians around the world to torture them - co nowego ? Stare Kiejkuty When Scotland found out that American were flying their torturers through Scottish airports, we put a stop to it - why didn't Poland ?

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 12:31 #7
szkotja2007: When Scotland found out that American were flying their torturers through Scottish airports, we put a stop to it - why didn't Poland ? US still uses British airports. Poland is not just a transit point, but also is involved in the torture.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 12:32 #8
Russia Today ran an interesting story on this. It would appear that certain Poles were in on it and highly active.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 12:36 #9
szkotja2007: When Scotland found out that American were flying their torturers through Scottish airports, we put a stop to it - why didn't Poland ? boot licking maybe? Seanus: It would appear that certain Poles were in on it and highly active. really? ;)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 12:38 #10
Well, according to press reports, plk123. That's not to say it happened beyond all reasonable doubt as the press is often wrong. Why speculate when heavy allegations are involved?

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 12:43 #11
to me it's pretty much beyond reasonable doubt at this point.. these "stories" have been floating about since 2002 or so.. which is basically since the beginning of the "war on terror" bs btw, do you know what this [ ;) ] means? :)

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 12:44 #12
plk123: btw, do you know what this [ ;) ] means? :) means, lets slap some electrodes onto that ragheads nuts

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 12:47 #13
lol.. you know it.. :D :D

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 12:48 #14
I know what wink marks mean :) :) I believe it could happen here, quite easily.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 12:50 #15
Seanus: I believe it could happen here, quite easily. me too as PL has been licking the usa's imperialist boots since 1989 if not always..

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 12:52 #16
plk123: me too as PL has been licking the usa's imperialist boots since 1989 if not always.. any chance to play with the big boys...

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 13:18 #17
yeah but wtf for? there is really no need right now.. PL ought to concentrate on growing up and maybe becoming a big dog itself.

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Jul 31, 10, 13:26 #18
plk123: yeah but wtf for? short man complex. and you're right, poland needs to get its house in order...

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Jul 31, 10, 13:29 #19

Czarnkow1940:

Rights group claims new proof of CIA flights to Poland

Hahaha, a rights group? Animal rights, Human rights, General rights? Right wing group? What?

The CIA sends men everywhere within their sphere of influence and especially in the spheres where the US does not have any influence, they call them advisors in the spheres of influence, spies in the other spheres.

They were indeed on higher alert after 9/11 - every country has now "facilities for interrogation of suspected Al Quaeda-members". So it's not surprising PL may have such a facility as well.

Nothing new as the former East Bloc countries are especially interesting being the former enemy.

Hm, PL becoming a big dog on the world's stage? Perhaps, but not in the near future.

>^..^<

M-G (yeah!)

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Edited by: plk123 Jul 31, 10, 13:32 #20

lol.. agreed but that's just too bad.. aren't the current Polish leaders working on that though?

MareGaea:

Hahaha, a rights group? Animal rights, Human rights, General rights? Right wing group? What?

human rights

MareGaea:

Nothing new as the former East Bloc countries are especially interesting being the former enemy.

it's just a change in oppressors..

MareGaea:

Hm, PL becoming a big dog on the world's stage? Perhaps, but not in the near future.

perhaps..

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