Serbian, Polish culture ministries cooperate

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Serbian, Polish culture ministries cooperate

5 November 2010 | 15:08 | Source: Tanjug
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2010&mm=11&dd=05& nav_id=70719

BELGRADE -- Serbian and Polish culture ministers Nebojša Bradić and Bogdan Zdrojewski signed a Letter of Intent at the Serbian government on Friday.

The letter concerns cooperation between the Serbian Ministry of Culture and Polish Ministry of Culture and National Heritage.

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Edited by: convex Nov 24, 10, 01:15 #2
This is supposed to help Polish and Serbian artists...how? on a side note... Pointing out that Poland will hold the EU Presidency in 2011, Bradić expressed his belief that, with Poland's support, Serbia's EU integration will be accelerated. Start a Slavic block once you get into the EU... maybe your dream is closer than you realize....

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Edited by: PennBoy Nov 24, 10, 02:20 #3
convex: This is supposed to help Polish and Serbian artists...how? They hope to accelerate future cooperation, encourage it even more, if it has the supported of both government people wont hesitate

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Nov 24, 10, 16:44 #4
Yeah, new ties will be forged. This is the plan and someone had to set that ball in motion. It augurs well.

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: Torq Nov 24, 10, 19:41 #5
convex: Start a Slavic block once you get into the EU There already is Slavic Vysehrad Group (Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary) in the EU (Hungarians are not Slavs, but being our eternal brothers they are allowed in :)) Serbia would be welcome to join the group once they get into the EU.

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Nov 24, 10, 19:46 #6
I meant in the Parliament. The Visegrad group doesn't do much of anything except have expensive dinners and block traffic once a year :)

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Nov 25, 10, 01:19 #7
convex: The Visegrad group doesn't do much of anything except have expensive dinners and block traffic once a year :) It did have an important role before EU accession - if I recall rightly, it was set up through encouragement from the EU for the countries to work together on a small scale first.

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Edited by: Crow Nov 27, 10, 02:11 #8

convex:

Start a Slavic block once you get into the EU...

Well, it seams that, under the given circumstances of fact that EU exist (no matter all pro or contra reasons) Poland finally pledge to strengthen its position within its own Slavic civilization. In many occasions these days, Poland promote itself as epicenter for European Slavs and i believe, we would see how Slavs gather around Poland.

Bulgaria, Poland: EU Should Focus on Ties with Ukraine, Belarus, Western Balkans
November 24, 2010, Wednesday
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=122523

The European Union needs to solidify its ties with its neighbors to the east and south, according to the Foreign Ministers of Bulgaria and Poland.

Nikolay Mladenov met with Radoslaw Sikorski in Warsaw; both top diplomats agreed that the EU must do more on its relations with Ukraine, Belarus and Moldova as well as with the countries from the Western Balkans.

convex:

maybe your dream is closer than you realize....

many times here, on this forum, i said that we even in our lives may be witnesses of very interesting development

stallionThreads: 4 Posts: 28 Joined: Nov 25, 10 ♂	Edited by: stallion Nov 27, 10, 08:46 #9
lol, If the EU ever falls apart Pilsudski's dream 'Międzymorze' can be implemented... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mi%C4%99dzymorze

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Nov 27, 10, 09:58 #10

stallion:

lol, If the EU ever falls apart Pilsudski's dream 'Międzymorze' can be implemented...

true. i share my dream with Mr. Pilsudski. Międzymorze is practically restoration of political and territorial realm of `Sarmatia Europae`.

Sarmatia Europae

In the early middle age (9th century), Great Moravia was in the middle of it and developed in that direction. Unfortunately, Slavic dream was `canceled` back in that time.

Great Moravia in time of King Svatopluk

in case with this map >>>

Międzymorze

Its nice to me to see Kosovo attached to Międzymorze. Poles are nice to their beloved Racowie. Very nice. But, there should be also added historical Western Slavic territories and Bulgaria. Bulgaria should be invited and they would join, i am sure. Wetern Slavic territories should be, to say that way `encouraged`. i am sure that democratic German state won`t complain to the separation of the region. Only addition of Western Slavic territories (not only Lusatia) to Międzymorze guaranties satisfaction of all Serbian interests. Only that guaranties that all Serbs from Baltic to Balkan finally again live in one state.

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when we are at Medjumorje (Międzymorze)... it is seen as `Centroslavia` in the article >>>

Plight of Central European Nations in the Wake of Western Oder Demise
by Ignacy Nowopolski
http://ignacynowopolskiblog.salon24.pl/48270,plight-of-central-europea n-nations-in-the-wake-of-western-oder-d

Inevitable collapse of the Empire is going to expose Europe’s southern “soft belly” to vicious assault of Islam. Aggravated by painful experience of current Middle Eastern wars, Muslims may pose a dramatic threat to Europe’s very existence.

In such instance, there is going to be a necessity to stabilize and secure the region. This may be accomplished by some form of cooperation between Central European nations.

In order to survive, these nations must overcome mutual animosities, which currently enable their enemies from the
west, east, and south to successfully employ ancient divide et impera strategy.

The answer is in the creation of some sort of “Centroslavia”. Failure to achieve this will not only put at risk their “magnificent” future in EU, but the very basic survival.

SokratesThreads: 19 Posts: 4,464 Joined: Jan 19, 09 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 5, 10, 14:43 #12
Serbia has a culture ministry? For that matter Serbia has a culture?

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Dec 5, 10, 15:11 #13
hey, why those western borders on that map of Międzymorze looks like giant falus? Is that symbolical penetration to the West? Liberation of Lusatia? liberation and spreading of democracy to all our enslaved people on western territories. Very nice, very nice Sokrates please go on some Shiftar (Albanian) forum

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Dec 5, 10, 15:50 #14
Crow: hey, why those western borders on that map of Międzymorze looks like giant falus? Is that symbolical penetration to the West? Liberation of Lusatia? liberation and spreading of democracy to all our enslaved people on western territories. Very nice, very nice looks at the map Looks at what Crowie have written ignores Crowie's perversities and dreams about glorious Piłsudski

SokratesThreads: 19 Posts: 4,464 Joined: Jan 19, 09 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 5, 10, 16:31 #15
Crow: hey, why those western borders on that map of Międzymorze looks like giant falus? Is that symbolical penetration to the West? Liberation of Lusatia? liberation and spreading of democracy to all our enslaved people on western territories. Very nice, very nice No idea what are you on but i want some.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Dec 5, 10, 17:32 #16
Mr Grunwald: glorious Piłsudski i truly admire to Pan Piłsudski. Great man. /i using Pilsudski as background on my PC/

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Edited by: jonni Dec 5, 10, 20:03 #17
now, now - what's so serious about Lusatian irredentism? Pure Duck Soup

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Dec 5, 10, 20:06 #18
jonni: now, now - what's so serious about Lusatian irredentism? its so romantic

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Dec 5, 10, 20:09 #19
Crow: its so romantic That's true. What would a modern Lusation state do for its people (and I don't mean international alliances) that the territory doesn't already do? What would be the basis of it's economy?

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Edited by: Crow Dec 5, 10, 20:17 #20

jonni:

What would a modern Lusation state do for its people (and I don't mean international alliances) that the territory doesn't already do?

you don`t understand? don`t you? liberation of Lusatia bringing one crucial thing (for start) to the Lusatians and that is /actually those are/ vast resources of Slavija. Why would Lusatians feel worries for water, primary raw materials, etc. with the so called west? Slavs has enough resources for the long period of prosperity.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Dec 5, 10, 20:23 #21
But....Slavija doesn't exist. What now for the poor Lusatians?

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Dec 5, 10, 20:24 #22
The vast resources of Russia don't help Poland - and Lusatia is definately Mitteleuropa.

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Edited by: Crow Dec 5, 10, 20:25 #23

jonni:

What would be the basis of it's economy?

it is interesting question

i would give some suggestions for Lusatian economy, after liberation from Germany. Those are:

1. massive public works in the region
2. investments in military industry. It is border region of Slavic world so nothing strategic, just some important investments in rocketry and defensive infrastructure
3. investments in services of all kind
4. tourism

that for start

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Dec 5, 10, 20:25 #24
Crow is right. It has been proven time and again that the West creams off the resources of other countries. I fear that Poland will be a future target of bankers that want to further Western interests. We see what the EU has done to certain countries. Debt is the biggest trap. Crow, what is Serbia proposing in the latest cooperation discussions?

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Dec 5, 10, 20:33 #25

jonni:

The vast resources of Russia don't help Poland

Poland now exist in the state `Poland vs. Poland`. Hardly that Russia can help. Maybe only by her careful politics that take in consideration Polish interests on the long run. i think that Russia act positively here.

as for resources don`t worry. Serbs already state that vast Siberian resources belong to complete Slavic world, not only to Russia. On the base of that Russia already provided to Serbia privileged access to Russian market and resources.

On the other hand, Serbia declared its military neutrality on global military alliances. That is enough to Russia.

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Edited by: SzwedwPolsce Dec 5, 10, 20:40 #26
Seanus: It has been proven time and again that the West creams off the resources of other countries. Poland would have problems without money from EU. A big part of the economical growth in Poland is due to investments from EU. For example: They are renovating the medical university/hospital in my city for 50 mln zloty, Poland pays 12 mln zl and EU 38 mln zl.

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Dec 5, 10, 20:40 #27

Crow:

1. massive public works in the region
2. investments in military industry. It is border region of Slavic world so nothing strategic, just some important investments in rocketry and defensive infrastructure
3. investments in services of all kind
4. tourism

Nice suggestions....but again....who will pay for it?

Crow:

Serbs already state that vast Siberian resources belong to complete Slavic world, not only to Russia.

What was Russias reaction to that statement Crowie? Do you have a link?

Seanus:

We see what the EU has done to certain countries

What has the EU done to other countries Seanie?

Seanus:

Crow is right.

Funny quote that! :):):):)

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Edited by: Crow Dec 5, 10, 20:51 #28

Polish minister of culture Bogdan Zdrojewski arriving in the visit to the Serbian national movie archive `Yugoslav Kinoteka` in Belgrade, Serbia. Kinoteka is among 5 biggest European movie vaults (archives/deposits) >>>

an article from Serbian media >

Blago za budućnost
Beograd, 5.11.2010.
http://www.kultura.gov.rs/?p=5731

Zdrojevski and Bradic in Serbia`s Yugoslav Kinoteka

Ministri kulture Srbije i Poljske Nebojša Bradić i Bogdan Zdrojevski obišli su danas depo Arhiva Jugoslovenske kinoteke u Košutnjaku i legat Milice Zorić i Rodoljuba Čolakovića na Dedinju.

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Edited by: Mr Grunwald Dec 5, 10, 21:00 #29

SzwedwPolsce:

A big part of the economical growth in Poland is due to investments from EU.

For example:
They are renovating the medical university/hospital in my city for 50 mln zloty, Poland pays 12 mln zl and EU 38 mln zl

Somehow other countries have also got money from EU and are NOT prospering...
Hmmmmm...
But still you have a point! But... It's not the only reason ;)

Bratwurst Boy:

Nice suggestions....but again....who will pay for it?

Germans! In the sense of they have payed to Poland to help Poland. Then Poland will help them... So in the end the Germans will still help them! Just with an other "representative" :)

Bratwurst Boy:

Funny quote that! :):):):)

Indeed! I thought I was drunk but I am sure I am drinking Pepsi Max at the moment

Crow:

i truly admire to Pan Piłsudski. Great man.

/i using Pilsudski as background on my PC/

*Crow's reputation among patriots like Mr Grunwald has increased from "PL-Friendly" to "PL-Ally"

You are and will ever be somebody I will never look down upon never again

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Edited by: Crow Dec 5, 10, 21:10 #30

Poland is by Serbia (as always) seen and welcomed as important Slavic power and strategic partner. Poles enjoy great respect here. Even Russians learned to accept and tolerate Polish influence in the region, thanks to Serbian attitude based on Polish-Serbian Slaveno/Sarmatian connections. That what Germany always gets and tries to achieve in the region via Croatia and Bosnian Muslims, Poland could and can always achieve via Serbia. As long as Serbs stand, Poland is seen as important European country here.

Zdrojevski and Bradic at the new statue to the Polish Frederik Shopen

read more > Danas daily online >
http://srb.time.mk/read/19a16fdaf9/d09edfdb5f/index.html

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