Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia?

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 20:29 #91
Torq: Ah, well - can we at least ban wearing baseball caps back-to-front? If only.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 20:32 #92
Torq: Ah, well - can we at least ban wearing baseball caps back-to-front? Oh god yes, please!!!

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Apr 5, 10, 20:34 #93

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In West, if you dont have money, you creep and they dont take even to hospitals and you die. Freedom? Yes, you westerners are very free. Face it. West is a failure now from point of view of economy system. You arent looking at yourselves into the mirror, you are critisizing others how ugly they are, etc.

Ya, western poor ordinary folks, it is difficult to understand you, you are really fools.
You dont have money in your pockets, you go and watch basketball, football etc players making millions of dollars a year. Just only this shows how fools you are.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Edited by: SeanBM Apr 5, 10, 20:37 #94
nomaderol: you go and watch basketball, football etc players making millions of dollars a year. At least we can see bearded, long haired, ballerinas in an opera whenever we like! That is true freedom! Actually wasn't there a Plan "B" to have Europe's energy supplied from the -Stan countries?

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 20:39 #95
SeanBM: At least we can see bearded, long haired, ballerinas in an opera! Yup!!!

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 20:43 #96
The danger of being an energy bridge between two powerful neighbours is that that both would like to secure it. Meaning influencing internal affairs of Poland, its sound even more plausible because Russia and Germany have long history of doing so. Seems that so far Germans had an upper hand as they secured 80% of mass-market market in Poland. One can safely assume that PO is indebted :D

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Apr 5, 10, 20:43 #97

nomaderol:

In West, if you dont have money, you creep and they dont take even to hospitals and you die.

In Turkmenistan you don't have hospitals, and no money. You just die. You hear about people dying in Europe all the time because hospitals reject them.

nomaderol:

You arent looking at yourselves into the mirror, you are critisizing others how ugly they are, etc.

Uh, you have serious mental problems if you can't see that Turkmenistan is a brutal unforgiving hellhole of a country.

nomaderolThreads: 7 Posts: 1,213 Joined: Oct 18, 09 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 20:47 #98
Ya, Convex, a guy supporting West economy system, just tell us. You want free hospitalization, free health care or not?

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 20:48 #99
nomaderol: You want free hospitalization, free health care or not? Nothing in this world is for free!

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 20:48 #100
nomaderol: You want free hospitalization, free health care or not? There is no such a thing...get a grip man!

nomaderolThreads: 7 Posts: 1,213 Joined: Oct 18, 09 ♂	Edited by: nomaderol Apr 5, 10, 20:50 #101
If nothing is for free, enjoy non-freedom then. But, never claim again this that you have freedom there in West.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 20:54 #102
nomaderol: If nothing is for free, enjoy non-freedom then. Oh don't hurt your head to much...we enjoy our freedom knowing that every work is worth to be paid for, and that it is the only way to secure the future of this work, thank you very much!

nomaderolThreads: 7 Posts: 1,213 Joined: Oct 18, 09 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 20:56 #103
Bratwurst Boy: we enjoy our freedom you changed... you said nothing for free. and, now, you enjoy your freedom? ufff, you are like women. they can be understood as they are under pressure of male world, but, you guys?

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Apr 5, 10, 20:58 #104
nomaderol: you said nothing for free. and, now, you enjoy your freedom? Well...and you should leave your foolish idea that only free things are good or mean freedom. You should go living in the forest then...lot's of free grass and free rain and free leaves for food...rolls eyes

nomaderolThreads: 7 Posts: 1,213 Joined: Oct 18, 09 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 21:00 #105
BBoy, be straight man. Do you have freedom in West or not? One wonders are you paying for breathening air or not ! ?

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 21:01 #106
nomaderol: BBoy, be straight man. Do you have freedom in West or not? Yes, we have...I have experienced the socialist version and the capitalist version and my decision is clear.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 21:02 #107
There is freedom to do some things and prohibitions on doing others. Need it be deeper than that?

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Apr 5, 10, 21:06 #108

Bratwurst Boy:

Yes, we have...I have experienced the socialist version and the capitalist version and my decision is clear.

You said first, there is no freedom in world and now you saying you have freedom.
Your freedom is based on non-freedom of others in capitalism, on killing millions of people (oil, etc) elsewhere?

Ps. You never lived true socialism. What you lived is Russian nationalism. Look at the result. Other Soviet regions are poor while Russia became superpower with military. You lacking logic.

Again.. are you paying for breathening air or not? (we know you are paying for lands, water, etc)

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Apr 5, 10, 21:13 #109

nomaderol:

Again.. are you paying for breathening air or not? (we know you are paying for lands, water, etc)

*sighs*

No we do not and actually I'm not interested in such useless discussions...I experienced socialism (as did many others around the world) as real as it will ever get, you will try to convince me of an idealistic version only viable in books etc.etc.etc.etc.

Leave us in the free West alone would you...why don't you go building up your fantasy world somewhere else!

Nick MonThreads: - Posts: 5 Joined: May 6, 09 ♂	Edited by: Nick Mon Apr 5, 10, 21:17 #110
Story in The Times today: 'Dash for Poland’s gas could end Russian stranglehold' ://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/natural_re s ources/article7087585.ece

nomaderolThreads: 7 Posts: 1,213 Joined: Oct 18, 09 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 21:20 #111
Bratwurst Boy: No we do not (pay money for breathening air here in West) So, you live for free. But, you said there is no freedom in life. So, this means you want to pay for breathening air also. Ok. work on controlling air also then. You (your mentality) already controlled lands, water, etc. Yes, you can also control air easily. (don't fart!)

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 21:26 #112
nomaderol: So, this means you want to pay for breathening air also. Yeah of course...gimme the adress of the people who produce and work for this air and I will gladly do my duty....I'm not a free rider, our societies would break down if everybody would prefer it "free"!

nomaderolThreads: 7 Posts: 1,213 Joined: Oct 18, 09 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 21:30 #113
Bratwurst Boy: gimme the adress of the people who produce and work for this air and I will gladly do my duty.... pardon.. someones are producing lands, water, oil, etc?

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Apr 5, 10, 21:32 #114
nomaderol: pardon.. someones are producing lands, water, oil, etc? Well, land needs to be worked on to produce something, farmers need to earn money to make a living from their work...the fishers need money for their work too...well...having huge oil reservoirs is luck but somehow your paradise Turkmenistan has oil and still half of it's people living under the poverty limit...so...

nomaderolThreads: 7 Posts: 1,213 Joined: Oct 18, 09 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 21:35 #115
again, you are lacking dialog. lands are being produced by some people?

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 21:36 #116
nomaderol: again, you are lacking dialog. And you are lacking brain and logic (and experience I might add). Isn't there a "communism for idiots" fan club somewhere you can pester? Bye

nomaderolThreads: 7 Posts: 1,213 Joined: Oct 18, 09 ♂	Apr 5, 10, 21:55 #117
Am a pure capitalist.. You cant be even a real capitalist. If you were able to do, you could see it is also true socialism. There is only and only one god, money!

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