Sikorski or Komorowski for president?

Polonius3Threads: 963 Posts: 4,547 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Mar 14, 10, 16:56 #1
Who do you think would make a better president and why?

VarsovianThreads: 85 Posts: 531 Joined: Nov 23, 06 ♂	Mar 31, 10, 16:01 #2
Komorowski refused to answer an email from me - one of his constituents. It's not part of Polish political culture to listen to the people or get involved in your own constituency. Obviously, Sikorski lost the primary - not one of the Platforma crony in-crowd. A plague on all their houses! At least he has an intelligent wife - roundly hated by PO because she's Jewish!

JulietEchoThreads: 3 Posts: 129 Joined: Jul 14, 08 ♂	Mar 31, 10, 20:52 #3
Komorowski. I cant stand Sikorski's Zionist background.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,189 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Mar 31, 10, 21:08 #4
Except the Poles' polls roundly prefer Sikorski.

JulietEchoThreads: 3 Posts: 129 Joined: Jul 14, 08 ♂	Mar 31, 10, 21:11 #5
jonni: Except the Poles' polls roundly prefer Sikorski. Polls in Poland are unreliable and corrupted, which was widely publicized during several elections already...

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,189 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Edited by: jonni Mar 31, 10, 21:13 #6
Though they are a fair indicator. They can only be manipulated by a few points and the latest poll I've seen was published by GW which is respectable. A Sikorski/Tusk administration could do great things - and at least the ducks of Ciemnogrod are already consigned to the dustbin of history.

JulietEchoThreads: 3 Posts: 129 Joined: Jul 14, 08 ♂	Mar 31, 10, 21:17 #7
jonni: GW which is respectable. yeah you seem to know a lot about Poland.... GW respectable...

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Mar 31, 10, 21:21 #8

Varsovian, what on earth are you talking about? PO like Jewish people. Isn't that clear? Because he refused to answer your e-mail doesn't automatically make it part of Polish culture to not participate. Poland, after communism, became a fledgling democracy and, relative to other world powers, is doing remarkably well thanks.

Juliet, I am no fan of Zionists (that much should be clear) but Sikorski doesn't fit that bill. He is not a patch on Joe Biden, for example. Sikorski can converse freely in English and he is quite charismatic. For me, a key test would be his modernity. If he is back in the Stone Ages like the Kaczyński brothers then no thanks.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,189 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Mar 31, 10, 21:21 #9
Well, millions of us here in Poland choose to read it, and there are plenty of alternatives.

delphiandomineThreads: 40 Posts: 9,577 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂	Mar 31, 10, 21:37 #10
jonni: Well, millions of us here in Poland choose to read it But you're forgetting that it's a Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy to have a newspaper which used the workers to oppress them. Or something along those lines!

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,189 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Mar 31, 10, 21:39 #11
Nah. Shapeshifting aliens with forged birth Hawaiian birth certificates. Join the dots, sheeple.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Mar 31, 10, 21:40 #12
I haven't read a newspaper in Lord knows how long. I don't need all the spin and useless information that comes from them. Everything is online anyway.

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Mar 31, 10, 21:41 #13

Seanus

Seanus:

e is quite charismatic

In what sense? To me his pre-arranged political marriage, party swaps etc. are the best example of his opportunistic character.

jonni:

Well, millions of us here in Poland choose to read it

Well, Im glad to inform you, that this Polish language, Jewish ruled, spreader of political correctness has been recently thrown out of Polish stock market due to its ever diminishing performance.

delphiandomineThreads: 40 Posts: 9,577 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂	Mar 31, 10, 21:43 #14
JulietEcho: Well, Im glad to inform you, that this Polish language, Jewish ruled, spreader of political correctness has been recently thrown out of Polish stock market due to its ever diminishing performance. Nothing new there, newspapers throughout the world are suffering badly.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,189 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Mar 31, 10, 21:43 #15
JulietEcho: To me his pre-arranged political marriage What makes you think that? JulietEcho: has been recently thrown out of Polish stock market Presumably you think that's a conspiracy too.

JulietEchoThreads: 3 Posts: 129 Joined: Jul 14, 08 ♂	Mar 31, 10, 21:43 #16
delphiandomine: Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy to have a newspaper which used the workers to oppress them Yeah... read more about Michnik, Michnik's brother Stefan, who writes in GW and suddenly it all makes sense.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,189 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Mar 31, 10, 21:49 #17
JulietEcho: Yeah... read more about Michnik And what? The story is stale news. Every other feeble racist who posts here has burbled on about that one. How does it relate to President-to-be Sikorsky, and the death of Ciemnogrod?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Mar 31, 10, 22:38 #18
I'm sure he smiles like a donut when the right occasion comes round ;) Here come the Saudis!

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Mar 31, 10, 23:42 #19

jonni:

And what?

So by now you know the story of a NKWD murderer that has been able to stay above the law because of his roots, so Nothing. Double standards for Us and Them. Nothing wrong with that, ever.
I just don't see the necessity of having a large number of Jews and Zionists in my government since event by the largest optimistic numbers they are not even a 1 percent of my society. Its racism by your loose tongue. Idiocy by my dictionary. I would like to see the goy, Sikorski become the husband of Israeli President... Same fit.

jonni:

How does it relate to President-to-be Sikorsky, and the death of Ciemnogrod?

Whats a death of ciemnogrod? Another therm used by some homosexual, brown mutant with a last name Silverstain promoted in GW, as the ultimate cosmopolitan?

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,189 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Edited by: jonni Mar 31, 10, 23:46 #20
JulietEcho: Jews JulietEcho: Zionists JulietEcho: my society JulietEcho: goy JulietEcho: Israeli JulietEcho: homosexual, brown mutant JulietEcho: Silverstain Your post says so much about you - none of it good. You can write as much hatred as you like as an immigrant thousands of miles away. Fortunately for us in Poland, actual election results show that the Polish voters are more sensible.

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Edited by: aphrodisiac Apr 1, 10, 00:48 #21

JulietEcho:

And what?
So by now you know the story of a NKWD murderer that has been able to stay above the law because of his roots, so Nothing. Double standards for Us and Them. Nothing wrong with that, ever.
I just don't see the necessity of having a large number of Jews and Zionists in my government since event by the largest optimistic numbers they are not even a 1 percent of my society. Its racism by your loose tongue. Idiocy by my dictionary. I would like to see the goy, Sikorski become the husband of Israeli President... Same fit.

idiot

JulietEcho:

Whats a death of ciemnogrod? Another therm used by some homosexual, brown mutant with a last name Silverstain promoted in GW, as the ultimate cosmopolitan?

idiot

kondziorThreads: 2 Posts: 397 Joined: Oct 16, 09 ♂	Apr 1, 10, 00:56 #22
I'd prefer Kaczynski. He did some stupid things, like coalition with Giertych and Leper, but he has had guts to say to the gays to GTFO with their parade.One have to admire something like that. And I liked his reaction to the Russian's invasion of Gergia.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,189 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Edited by: jonni Apr 1, 10, 01:01 #23
kondzior: but he has had guts to say to the gays to GTFO with their parade More idiocy. The year he said "GTFO" the parade happened as normal, which showed him up to be the pompous blustering old booby that the world now knows he is. Hypocrisy really, since his identical twin brother Jarosław is a confirmed bachelor considered by many to be gay.

kondziorThreads: 2 Posts: 397 Joined: Oct 16, 09 ♂	Apr 1, 10, 01:05 #24
One do not choose his brother. And I am not against these stupid parades, it is harmless thing. But one have to admire the man who is willing to stand by his convictions.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,189 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Apr 1, 10, 01:19 #25
At least he doesn't drink.

kondziorThreads: 2 Posts: 397 Joined: Oct 16, 09 ♂	Apr 1, 10, 01:23 #26
I dont hold it against him.

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Apr 4, 10, 09:38 #27

Sikorski seems to have ambition to become a PR champion like Marcinkiewicz. I don't like such people, this is always all about populism. He might be an American agent... His position in PO seems to be too strong if you consider that he joined just recently. American lobby in Poland was strong after collapse of communism. Sikorski run some important neocon institute living in the US.

Komorowski is just average party apparatchik without any charisma. I suspect that Tusk chose him to be one of candidates because he is so sure that this guy is unable to overshadow him as a party leader.

jonni:

Well, millions of us here in Poland choose to read it, and there are plenty of alternatives.

The average sale is 319.165 according to wiki, so lets be realistic :) However this is true that only "Fakt" is read by more people. Of course this proof that both tittle represent poor level. If both titles would represent high level circulation would be small duo to few people being able to handle it. There is such correlation, more readers - more primitive agenda. Of course this doesn't meant that every newspaper with small circulation is destined to intellectual elites. This is also question of financial resources. But this is a fact that really reasonable source must have small circulation.

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Apr 4, 10, 10:10 #28

lesser:

I suspect that Tusk chose him to be one of candidates because he is so sure that this guy is unable to overshadow him as a party leader.

Not a bad choice, given that Tusk wants to change the constitution to make the President all but ceremonial. I suspect that Komorowski also fits the job perfectly - not likely to rock the boat, stable, uncharismatic, reliable. Look at the German or Italian Presidents - does anyone even know who they are?

IronsideThreads: 56 Posts: 6,196 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Edited by: Ironside Apr 4, 10, 10:29 #29
jonni: More idiocy. Why idiocy? As for choice - what choice? S would be more unpredictable as for K nothing unexpected there !

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06 ♂	Apr 4, 10, 12:32 #30
I bet that every morning Sikorski looks into a mirror and thinks "Jesus Radek, how do you do it that you look so damn good!"

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