Summit organized by Poland because of Obama`s visit to be boycot by Serbia and Slovakia?

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May 25, 11, 17:49 #1

this becoming interesting

Presidents of Serbia, Slovakia and Romania Will Not Attend the Summit in Poland
2011-05-24, 10:43
http://www.poland.pl/news/article,Presidents_of_Serbia_Slovakia_and_Ro mania_Will_Not_Attend_the_Summit_in_Poland,id,457888.htm

Not all heads of state invited by the Polish President Bronislaw Komorowski will come to meet with the President of USA Barack Obama. The presidents of Serbia, Slovakia and Romania are planning to boycott the summit. And all because that Poland, persuaded by the United States, invited the President of Kosovo.

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Edited by: Crow May 25, 11, 18:08 #2

i just learned about compromise made by that Mr. Komorowski. Very interesting man that Mr. Komorowski. Look what he dared to do... he was forced by USA to invite the president of Kosovo but, he would remove all symbols of Kosovo state during summit. What a marvelous man. Diplomatically speaking, it means that Kosovo state exist if USA say so but that Kosovo state actually does not exist if it suits Serbia.

Poles are very wise people.

sobieskiThreads: 82 Posts: 1,143 Joined: Jun 1, 08 ♂	May 25, 11, 18:24 #3
Crow: Very interesting man that Mr. Komorowski. You mean the officoally and democratically elected President of Poland, right ? Who has no experience in organising concentration camps for Bosnian women, right? I do think abybody gives a fig you Serbs will not be represented in Warsaw, actually.

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May 25, 11, 18:39 #4

Crow:

Look what he dared to do... he was forced by USA to invite the president of Kosovo but

That’s just pandering to domestic crowd as well as that of our neighbors. In my opinion Poland should take a firm stand on the issue of Kosovo, after all saying no once in a while is good for the morale not to mention the fact of what’s right. Typical play of the politician who would rather be in the middle and see what happens down the road instead of clearly stating that Kosovo is Serbia.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	May 25, 11, 18:40 #5
sobieski: Who has no experience in organising concentration camps for Bosnian women, right? I do think abybody gives a fig you Serbs will not be represented in Warsaw, actually. EU, NATO and Islamic league anti-Serbian propaganda speaks from you. is it possible that you aren`t capable to say anything original to the auditorium of this forum?

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May 25, 11, 18:45 #6

Correct decision to boycott the summit by Serbia, and Obama other than the usual diplomatic phrases has nothing else he could offer Belgrade. Obama in his country is choking from problems, leading three wars, the debt rose to over 14 trillion dollars, a record number of people unemployed and waiting for food stamps, he lost the Congress and his throne in the White House is sliding right underneath him. He has his own problems to spare, so that his chatting with Tadić there is no any benefit to neither Serbia nor America.

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Edited by: Crow May 25, 11, 18:48 #7

ShortHairThug:

That’s just pandering to domestic crowd as well as that of our neighbors.

have in mind that majority of Polish public support sovereignty of Serbia and plus, Serbians have significant influence in Slavic world and Central/Eastern Europe in general. But, what is interesting, Serbian influence leads to satisfaction of Poland`s strategic interests. Poland is aware of it and using opportunity to (using Serbian question), deflect from official USA politics on Balkan- very important region of Europe and Slavic world.

Please note that Komorowski`s compromise to Serbian demands increasing Poland`s influence in Slavic world, in Central/Eastern Europe.

sobieskiThreads: 82 Posts: 1,143 Joined: Jun 1, 08 ♂	May 25, 11, 18:51 #8
Crow: and Islamic league anti-Serbian propaganda Nice contrast with NATO bombing Khadaffi positions :)

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May 25, 11, 18:57 #9

"Voice of Russia", in the article "The Kosovo trap for Barack Obama", http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/05/25/50809994.html, says few things, in its usual pleasant way:

Poland, which traditionally enjoys US support, has acted the provocateur before.

A list of grudges follows. Then this:

But this time, Warsaw has obviously gone too far and seemingly done a disservice to their US partners.

And this:

International gambles are a much-loved pursuit for the US and some forces in Poland. However the Europeans are growing increasingly tired of them.

We love you too…

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy May 25, 11, 20:06 #10

Crow:

http://www.poland.pl/news/article,Presidents_of_Serbia_Slovakia_ and_Ro mania_Will_Not_Attend_the_Summit_in_Poland,id,457888.htm

Interesting Kosovo president:

Atifete Jahjaga (born 20 April 1975) is the 4th and current President of Kosovo. She is the first female, the first non-partisan candidate, and the youngest to be elected to the office. She previously served as the Deputy Director of the Kosovo Police, holding the rank of Major General, the highest among women in Southeastern Europe. (from Wikipedia)

The Kosovars are muslims, aren't they? Double wow! The Serbs against this tough girl! :)

boletus:

"The Kosovo trap for Barack Obama"

I don't think so...The US and Obama couldn't care less about the mess in the balkan pit. They have other problems than this b'itch fight about a tiny strip of land...

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May 25, 11, 20:24 #11

The US is definitely at a low point historically and diplomatically in fighting aggressive wars in nations that are no threat to us, and by recognizing so-called 'Kosovo' as a nation...Kosovo is inarguably part of historic Serbia, and the recognition of this newly hatched gangster/mafia state is a disgrace...Unfortunately, you will find few Slavs in State Department and Obama has no clue about anything except what his handlers prepare for him.

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Edited by: JonnyM May 25, 11, 20:27 #12

joepilsudski:

Kosovo is inarguably part of historic Serbia

'Historic' is irrelevant. The will of the people of Kosovo and the overwhelming majority vote in the referendum is all that matters. The number of 'Slavs' in whatever government department is also irrelevant - the failed state that was Yugoslavia broke up into various parts and that process is continuing. It only becomes an issue when one of those pieces threatens others.

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy May 25, 11, 20:30 #13

JonnyM:

'Historic' is irrelevant.

I just thought the same! If central Europes history would be the example for modern policy we would at each others throats again and the borders would look differently too...

I just recently watched an interesting psychogram about the balkan grudges and the never dying, century old hate between the several ethnic groups and how they all cycle between phases of being the victim and of being the killer, that there never happened real reconciliation, that even during the yugoslavian era the history was never fairly regrounded.
So that they, after this union fell, started immediately again where they left off...killing each other...

One suffering bears the seed for the next revenge, causing other suffering who in turn live for revenge and so on and so on and so on.

I think history is much of the reason for all that tension and blood shed in the Balkans...maybe it should be scratched completely for a generation or two, being made really irrelevant!

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Edited by: joepilsudski May 25, 11, 20:38 #14

Jahjaga, the deputy head of Kosovo's police, has no political background and had never run for office before.

"I never thought that I could reach such a high political position," Jahjaga told the assembly minutes after being sworn in. "But I have always been ready to serve my country."

Atifete Jahjaga, addresses parliament after she was elected as president.

Please note: She says 'serve my country, blah, blah...Kosovo was NEVER A COUNTRY.

She put in by mafia chief Thaci, Germany, US and certain financial interests looking to steal resources.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	May 25, 11, 20:39 #15
She is cool...a fighting woman! :)

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER ♂	May 25, 11, 20:41 #16
Bratwurst Boy: She is cool...a fighting woman! :) Since when you are into fighting women, BB? Last time I checked this forum, you were running away from one ;)

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07 ♂	May 25, 11, 20:43 #17
She a cop who gets paid by Albanian mafia.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy May 25, 11, 20:45 #18
Torq: Since when you are into fighting women, BB? HELMETS!!!! :) Torq: Last time I checked this forum, you were running away from one ;) pssst looks around fearfully She is SERBIAN!!!! joepilsudski: and certain financial interests looking to steal resources. What resources???

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Edited by: Moderator May 25, 11, 20:47 #19

Bratwurst Boy:

The Kosovars are muslims, aren't they? Double wow!

woman for Kosovo president happened because USA arranged that to happen, in propaganda purpose. Intention is to present Kosovo as democratic and serious state. But, Kosovo is nor democratic, nor serious state. Its mafia anti-Slavic state

Bratwurst Boy:

The Serbs against this tough girl! :)

<<< see >>> that was plan. Woman as president needs to weaken Serbian position and to strengthen Albanian arguments.

if this thread gets more about Serbia - it'll end up in the trash.

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	May 25, 11, 20:50 #20
joepilsudski: She says 'serve my country, blah, blah...Kosovo was NEVER A COUNTRY. It is now. One with clear borders, a distinct culture and international recognition.

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Edited by: Crow May 25, 11, 20:51 #21

Admin:

if this thread gets more about Serbia - it'll end up in the trash.

i am strictly on the topic of the thread and thread deal with very Polish issues

joepilsudski:

She put in by mafia chief Thaci, Germany, US and certain financial interests looking to steal resources.

exactly

joepilsudski:

Atifete Jahjaga, addresses parliament after she was elected as president.

devil has many faces. Those faces needs to hypnotist public.

Well, Komorowski seams resistant on hypnosis. No wonder, man is Polish nobleman and Kosovo as land of Racowie (Serbians) belonged to realm of old Polish nobility

KoalaThreads: 1 Posts: 433 Joined: May 4, 11 ♂	May 25, 11, 20:51 #22
Poland was behaving like USA's dog for far too long, little is for us to benefit from close relationship with them and much to lose. They basically see us as a tool that they can dispose of whenever they feel like (and actually did a couple of times in the past few years).

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	May 25, 11, 20:56 #23
JonnyM: It is now. One with clear borders, a distinct culture and international recognition. And it will remain one for a very very long time.

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07 ♂	Edited by: joepilsudski May 25, 11, 20:56 #24
Bratwurst Boy: pssst looks around fearfully She is SERBIAN!!!! Then why doesn't she run for President of Serbia?...This would be her country if she is Serbian, correct? Psssttt... I look in history books (not ones written in last 5 years) and find no mention of a country called 'Kosovo'.

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Edited by: Crow May 25, 11, 21:01 #25

JonnyM:

'Historic' is irrelevant. The will of the people of Kosovo and the overwhelming majority vote in the referendum is all that matters. The number of 'Slavs' in whatever government department is also irrelevant - the failed state that was Yugoslavia broke up into various parts and that process is continuing. It only becomes an issue when one of those pieces threatens others.

i would ask you when it comes to Britain to `broke up into various parts and`... and when Poles and Serbs start to export democracy and lessons about human rights there. Maybe even Russians decide to give Britain few lessons

Harry:

And it will remain one for a very very long time.

you don`t know anything about Slavic world. Slavs would strike back. Many times in past Serbians were reason for other Slavs to unite around common cause

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May 25, 11, 21:05 #26

Crow:

i would ask you when it comes to Britain to `broke up into various parts and`

Very possible - there's at least one referendum on the way. What is clear is that the constituent parts will work together and support each other, rather than snipe about it or spout irredentist rubbish about 'historic' territory. And the nonsense you're talking about Serbs or Poles exporting democracy anywhere is just comical. Long live Kosovo!

ZIMMYThreads: 10 Posts: 2,353 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	May 25, 11, 21:08 #27
It probably won't happen in my lifetime, but Kosovo will be Serbian again.

NatasaThreads: 7 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 6, 10 MEMBER ♀	Edited by: Natasa May 25, 11, 21:09 #28
Bratwurst Boy: looks around fearfully She is SERBIAN!!!! I won't lie. It will hurt. You'll love it. stands firmly and directly in front of BB, staring at fearful eyes, saying " running time is over" Where is Nathan when I need his Slavic assistance? stop the earth i want to get off

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May 25, 11, 21:11 #29

Relevance to Poland...

Kosovo a Precedent for Judeopolonia?

Piotr Bein, February 20, 2008

Albanians have a country, why must we support stealing a chunk of someone else’s land? Another Albania and then Greater Albania across the Balkans sounds like Judeopolonia from the Baltic to the Black Sea – a concept aimed for, also with German support, for over a century.
The Kosovo chutzpah is yet another in a series started with the “war on terror” following the Hollywood-like spectacle of 9/11 – a “US” neocon inside job, starring Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda. Now as then, Israel – an essential part of the Zionist powerhouse – pretends that Jihad hasn’t been planted in Europe’s underbelly to weaken the Western civilization, by Zionist design and implementation...

http://piotrbein.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/286/

NathanThreads: 33 Posts: 1,846 Joined: Feb 13, 09 ♂	May 25, 11, 21:16 #30
Natasa: Where is Nathan when I need his Slavic assistance? I am still full of BB's leftovers from the previous encounter :) Have mercy on him, Natasa. looks at unwavered and firm in her decisions Natasa and BB shaking in fear with a dangling helmet Slavic women are very persuasive :)

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