11-th November - Polish Independence Day. Poland reborn after 123 years.

g_kThreads: 1 Joined: Nov 10, 10 ♂	Nov 11, 10, 18:38 #1
Today we all are celebrating the Great Moment in our History. Poland was reborn after 123 years of slavery. Best wishes to all :)

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Nov 11, 10, 18:40 #2
Happy Independence Day to all Poles out there!

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Nov 11, 10, 19:12 #3
This was from 2008

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Nov 11, 10, 19:26 #4

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WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Nov 11, 10, 20:34 #5
g_k: Today we all are celebrating the Great Moment in our History even google has a Polish flag today has anyone seen anyone wearing a red and white rosette today ?

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Nov 11, 10, 20:36 #6
Wroclaw: even google has a Polish flag today no... Wroclaw: has anyone seen anyone wearing a red and white rosette today ? no...

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Nov 11, 10, 20:36 #7
Wroclaw: even google has a Polish flag today What? utter nonsense! *goes check google.pl* Surprised and shocked he fells on the floor Somebody call an ambulance! I think I am having hallucinations!

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Nov 11, 10, 20:38 #8
Wroclaw: even google has a Polish flag today does it? Not here though. Today is our Veterans day and our flag is on Google.

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Nov 12, 10, 00:48 #9

Wow did anyone see all the white nationalists/anarchists/WKS fans/idiots marching from the rynek to the boleslaw chrobry monument in wroclaw? There must have been 100 of them + riot police + counter protesters whistling - i nearly went deaf.
Such a shame they had to show themselves on this day...

Wroclaw:

has anyone seen anyone wearing a red and white rosette today ?

I saw a fair number of people in wroclaw carrying flags.

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Nov 12, 10, 00:52 #10

businessmaninpl:

Such a shame they had to show themselves on this day...

I put a Polish flag in the window of the plane and went flying. A lot more peaceful up there (and a better view!) than on the streets :)

You know, it's neat to be up there. The coolest thing about flying is that other than a frequency change, 99.99% of the time, there is no indication that you are leaving one country and entering another. Those imaginary lines don't show up from up there :)

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Edited by: hague1cmaeron Nov 12, 10, 10:37 #11

convex:

I put a Polish flag in the window of the plane and went flying. A lot more peaceful up there (and a better view!) than on the streets :)

You know, it's neat to be up there. The coolest thing about flying is that other than a frequency change, 99.99% of the time, there is no indication that you are leaving one country and entering another. Those imaginary lines don't show up from up there :)

Good on you, that is a really novel way of celebrating!

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Nov 13, 10, 02:58 #12
In Olsztyn ^ Oleśnica ^

KrynskiThreads: - Posts: 175 Joined: Nov 9, 10 ♂	Nov 13, 10, 03:34 #13
businessmaninpl: Wow did anyone see all the white nationalists/anarchists/WKS fans/idiots + riot police + counter protesters whistling - i nearly went deaf. Such a shame they had to show themselves on this day... Buddy, your post is sure indication you ought to do business somewhere else. How about Solomon Islands? :)

hague1cmaeronThreads: 21 Posts: 1,652 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂	Edited by: Moderator Nov 13, 10, 10:42 #14
They should change the colour of their official uniform from Brown to dark Green!! How many times are you going to mention this ?

hague1cmaeronThreads: 21 Posts: 1,652 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂	Edited by: Moderator Nov 13, 10, 13:25 #15
hague1cmaeron: How many times are you going to mention this ? Well you got rid of my first comment, so i naturally thought it was prudent to reiterate. Erm! you have a thread dedicated to the topic.

hague1cmaeronThreads: 21 Posts: 1,652 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂	Nov 13, 10, 23:19 #16
hague1cmaeron: Erm! you have a thread dedicated to the topic. I know, but people are not interested):

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Edited by: Varsovian Nov 15, 10, 12:18 #17

Merged thread:
Independence Day

Poles are genuinely at a loss when it comes to Independence Day. Do we get sloshed in traditional fashion? Are we allowed to do some gardening without fear of derision from the neighbours? Do we go away? Bad weather time of the year ... Errr ... and what's it all about anyway? And why November 11th? Was it the end of the Uprising? D'oh.

I rolled November 5th and 11th into one, making it a somewhat eclectic event. Shame I couldn't burn an effigy of Michnik on the bonfire!

Hilariously, Poles have problems with Piłsudski anyway, as the vast majority given the choice would have preferred the ideas of Dmowski. It's a bit like Americans dissing Washington's vision of the United States being free of British "tyranny". Just a common tax evader - whose heraldic flag morphed into the Stars and Stripes.

BolleThreads: 3 Posts: 226 Joined: Apr 29, 10 ♂	Edited by: Bolle Nov 15, 10, 13:50 #18
What are you talking about? Varsovian: Do we You are not Polish so what is this "we" you are talking about? The british in poland?

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Edited by: Richfilth Nov 15, 10, 13:52 #19

There's a Constitution Day, a Labour Day, an Independence Day and a Patron Saint's Day (if you can call August 15th that.) Poles don't celebrate any of those; they just go to their dzialka, do some gardening and relax. I'd like to imagine that these are days of quiet reflections on what it means to be Polish, to have your own country, to have democratic freedoms, but none of that is relevant.

Nov 1st, on the other hand, is a day directly connected with the family, in much the same way that Christmas is. That's the one Poles get dressed up for, prepare enormous meals for, drive all the way across the country and back for. It's a bit sad for me that it's a day of death that gets Poles in the mood for a feast, but I prefer a celebration around family than around some abstract notion of patriotism, heroism or tradition.

This comment is made by an Englishman, coming from a country that doesn't have any days off for Englishness at all.

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Nov 15, 10, 15:15 #20

Bolle thinks that integrated British people do not have to fit in with their Polish families and are not subject to exactly the same rules as everybody else.

Perhaps he isn't subject to any rules.

Perhaps he gardens on Sundays just before going shopping.

The priest at the church I went to yesterday was explaining to the congregation what Independence Day was all about. And it wasn't the genius of Dmowski.

It's weird that a long-occupied country is confused about the significance of Independence Day.

As for things British, I agree that patriotism among the English was a long-derided virtue. However, I try (but often fail) to stick to Polish matters.

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Edited by: Bolle Nov 15, 10, 15:44 #21

Varsovian:

It's weird that a long-occupied country is confused about the significance of Independence Day.

How is poland confused about the significance of independence day? You seem obsessed with the topic but can't explain yourself clearly....

Varsovian:

Bolle thinks that integrated British people do not have to fit in with their Polish families and are not subject to exactly the same rules as everybody else.

No, you british expats think this way.

VarsovianThreads: 91 Posts: 568 Joined: Nov 23, 06 ♂	Nov 15, 10, 15:57 #22
Bolle has a strange view on how families work. Yes, of course 99% Polish families behave in a completely British way. Probably has no mother-in-law ... Polish holidays tend to have very much a set theme or tone. Religious, family, outdoors depending. This one has no popular theme to it - people don't know what to do with themselves and they just muddle through their characterless day off.

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Nov 15, 10, 16:04 #23

Varsovian:

Polish holidays tend to have very much a set theme or tone. Religious, family, outdoors depending. This one has no popular theme to it - people don't know what to do with themselves and they just muddle through their characterless day off.

Well i saw people enjoying themselves on nov 11 - parades, events, fireworks - really similar to other countries celebrations. They don't come close to american celebrations but their far from being "characterless." Learn polish and get out more.

Varsovian:

Bolle has a strange view on how families work. Yes, of course 99% Polish families behave in a completely British way. Probably has no mother-in-law ...

You brits constantly complain about almost everything polish on this forum, it's like you want everything to be british.

VarsovianThreads: 91 Posts: 568 Joined: Nov 23, 06 ♂	Nov 15, 10, 16:48 #24
Yeah, like I had loads of Brits to compare beer bellies with in a little village near Radom. Perhaps there were organised events elsewhere in the "Polska A" you're so proud of. Loved your logic about how you don't have a mother-in-law because I want you to be British.

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Nov 15, 10, 18:03 #25

Varsovian:

Polish holidays tend to have very much a set theme or tone.

Aside from the ones mentioned (Easter, Christmas, All Saints' Day) and New Years', I haven't seen a "set theme or tone" to any of the other 7 days off that make up the Polish holiday calender. Some people go back to their families and act just as they would any other weekend, others go to church for a ceremony and then act just as they would any other weekend, and some stay in their apartments or houses and act just as they would any other weekend.

I'd love either of you two bickerers to explain to me what the Official Polish Celebration Technique is for Boze Cialo, how that compares to May 1st, and what the National Guideline is for celebrating Jan 6th next year.

Tomas11Threads: - Posts: 5 Joined: Nov 8, 11 ♂	Nov 8, 11, 12:50 #26
How will poland celebrate Independance day this Year? The 11th November is coming soon.

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Edited by: Moderator Nov 8, 11, 14:47 #27
Tomas11: How will poland celebrate Independance day this Year? The 11th November is coming soon. I am going to be there this year :)

sobieskiThreads: 82 Posts: 1,143 Joined: Jun 1, 08 ♂	Nov 8, 11, 17:31 #28
Judging from my colleagues at work, most Poles treat this as a long weekend. And not more than that.

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