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Tragedy in Russia - shouldn`t Poland declare national mourning?


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skysoulmateThreads: 41
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 Jul 13, 11, 03:58    #31
Sorry about my creative spelling, meant to say dozens of kids (not duzzins).

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 Jul 13, 11, 03:58    #32
skysoulmate:
however many Russians read online forums nowadays and I think it's very inhumane to be throwing politics in here.

Oh come on! We have to speak up. There was silence with the submarine on this forum, while wives and mothers of the drowned soldiers desperately cried seeking the justice in sold-out courts. Now, there will be silence, when 50 kids and adults perished just like that (no natural disaster, no war, no disease). Tomorrow there will be another tragedy and you will still be silently mourning? People need to influence however one can to change these circumstances whether in Russia, Ukraine, Poland or the USA.
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 Jul 13, 11, 04:22    #33
Nathan:
I brought my condolences to all the families and I feel their pain and loss. But someone has to say something at least trying to change this BS. More kids will drown if we will just mourn and keep silent. How can a country be so ruthless to its own citizens by spending billions on the wars, both military, economical and informational, when its people are dying like flies on a peaceful river? It produces up-to-date rockets, but let others travel by 56 years old ships. My say will be more helpful to these people than when I be trying to be "polite".


You make a good point.

If only Russia put the effort into safety codes as it has in building up to date rockets and equipment for war, more of these Russian accidents can be prevented.

Also two Russian ships just cruised by the drowning people without helping them. What was that about??
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 Jul 13, 11, 06:37    #34
MediaWatch:
You make a good point.

If only Russia put the effort into safety codes as it has in building up to date rockets and equipment for war, more of these Russian accidents can be prevented.


Well, I see your points yet I still believe there's "a time to tear and a time to mend, a time to be silent and a time to speak...". True words then and true words today. Those poor souls haven't even been found yet, much less had a proper funeral. But hey, this is the modern age where everyone has an opinion and the opinion has to be shared today, preferably yesterday. Nothing personal, just venting.
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 Jul 13, 11, 07:26    #35
MediaWatch:
Also two Russian ships just cruised by the drowning people without helping them. What was that about??



That was unforgivable....even in times of war enemies respect the law of the sea and rescue their enemies from sinking ships if they can do it without putting themselves in danger...

To sail past a sinking ship of your own countrymen in peacetime is unbelievable.... The Russians know the name of these ships , and it seems have already identified and spoken to the captains , no doubt they will be punished....

Of course its possible the passing ships were overloaded with passengers , and were afraid of getting close to lots of survivors who would try to get on board...?

To be honest i think most of those who died were trapped in the boat when it sank , and even if a passing boat had come to the rescue it would not have been able to save many lives.....but its no excuse for not trying....
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 Jul 13, 11, 10:15    #36
wildrover:
Of course its possible the passing ships were overloaded with passengers


One of ships was loaded oil tanker, large and with just a few people in a crew. I doubt they was able to do very much in rescue effort but would cause additional dangers trying to maneuver near area of river with survivors.

It will be investigated anyway...
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 Jul 13, 11, 22:38    #37
pawian:
Dear Russian brothers, my deepest sympathy is with you. My heart is so saddened by your loss.


Thanks for the kind words, Pan Pawian!

I'm being a bit sceptical though about the national mourning. The point is that the latter is more a political gesture, that of two governments: Polish and Russian and in my mind that would be somewhat odd to condole with the regime (putin's regime) which had up till now by every move encouraged the corruption and negligence in the RF.

Again, I highly appreciate your act of good will i Vashe dobroe serdce but I do believe that in this case it may be only personal: from a Pole to the Russians.

Besides, personal feelings of the Poles may be various...

Grzegorz_:
Are you for real ?

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 Jul 13, 11, 22:50    #38
pawian:
common Russians are our Slavic brothers

All whites are brother! no matter if your Slavic or not!


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