A J: It maybe the case, but I'd like to see the report. (Because I haven't seen it!) That's based on the brochures. Check the sites for info. I get mine from Janes.
A J: Hey, I'm just going to cut this short, because if I gave you the full report on what a Typhoon can do you're just going to come up with a few claims, like so many other Americans before you. Let's just say that the experts over here firmly disagree with you, and I have many reasons to believe the JSF isn't as stealthy as they think it is. (Actually, I already know that the Dutch navy picked them up.) Jesus, the JSF is meant to be a multirole fighter, just like the Typhoon. The RCS isn't something that's hidden or top secret...
A J: About long-distance missiles? Yup. The Typhoon comes with 12. Thrust-to-weight ratio? I'm sorry, but the JSF just isn't superiour in that area. (The F-35 *is* faster without afterburn though, I'll give you that much!) Also, the Typhoon has an IR tracker which may be able to focus on the unit down the path of an F-35's active radar signal, using ESM, to detect the F-35 for a long-distance shot, long before the F-35 actually picks up a Typhoon. (Same story with the Raptor, as proven before.) The Tranche 2 and 3 Eurofighters will have vectored thrust, which means they'll be capable of breaking a radar lock if well-flown, or even dodge AMRAAMS, and close in for an IR tracker-guided shot. You do realize how stupid that sounds right? Anyway, again, I hate to labor the point, but the point is over the horizon engagement...140km vs 100km @mach4. 40km advantage...published...
A J: Opinions differ. I don't believe that the JSF is better, especially not when you keep in mind it wasn't designed to be superiour to a Raptor. (Which has been beaten by a Typhoon multiple times, like it or not.) Show me a single time that an F22 has been defeated in simulated combat. You haven't, you can't, you won't...not even against the Su-PAK.
If you want a bit more detail on this, I had a conversation with Sokrates a while back about the F16 purchase vs F35s or Typhoons.
Outcome, the JSF has a better radar, a lower radar cross section, and a better weapons load. The Typhoon is more maneuverable (but not as maneuverable as a a Gen 5 missile). The AIM120-D is scary, especially when paired with the F35's radar...AESA? Still being tested this side of the Atlantic...ALR-94 combined with APG-81, installed on the F35s...today...
A J: It didn't show much information. It didn't prove much either. Just show me a report which states that an F-35 Lightning II or a F-22 Raptor has beaten a Typhoon in a dogfight, and maybe then I'll shut up. Dude, pop in your top gun tape, and come back to me with a report on what the 80s were like. Air superiority fighters are well over the horizon now. It's no longer maneuvering, just radar, missiles, and detectability... The Typhoon would destroy an F35 in a short range dogfight. Would almost hold its own to an F22. In conventional combat, the Typhoon would be eliminated before it knew that either were out there.
For bonus points, the Meteor won't see service until 2015. The F35s have AIM-120Ds available today...Tyhpoons have the C model available... By the time the Meteor (less capable than an AIM-120D) is loaded onto a Typhoon, the JDRADM will be showing up...
Goodnight. Would like to talk radar all night long... Every man has a fetish...
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