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CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	May 30, 11, 18:44 #1
Warsaw - natural capital of Europe i hope that most of people of this forum feel this way. Europe would be better place with Warsaw as capital of this continent, for many reasons...

RobertLeeThreads: 12 Posts: 133 Joined: May 26, 11 ♂	May 30, 11, 19:59 #2
Crow: i hope that most of people of this forum feel this way. Europe would be better place with Warsaw as capital of this continent, for many reasons... Warsaw is one giant ugly concrete village. While in Warsaw I heard some old lady saying that all mannerly dwellers had been killed by Germans or Soviets. It makes sense.

sobieskiThreads: 82 Posts: 1,143 Joined: Jun 1, 08 ♂	Edited by: sobieski May 30, 11, 20:01 #3
For which reason? Care to give an example? Banja Luka? Maybe Srebrenica would be a good choice? Balkan corner alert by the way.

Des EssientesThreads: 11 Posts: 2,318 Joined: Feb 6, 10 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: Des Essientes May 30, 11, 20:07 #4
What does that scuptural looking building to the left of center in the OP photo house? It looks like the prow of giant ocean liner or a work by Constantin Brancusi.

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Edited by: Crow May 30, 11, 20:37 #5

RobertLee:

Warsaw is one giant ugly concrete village.

not worse then Brussels, i can tell you that one. In any case, after decent investments and support by entire continent /what one natural capital of Europe deserve/ it would be much better.

sobieski:

For which reason?

take for example geographical location of Warsaw in comparison to Brussels. Brussels represent exclusively western part of Europe while is position of Warsaw more balanced. Warsaw is natural center

PolandISgay	May 30, 11, 20:47 #6
Berlin would probably be the best capital, considering it is in the best European nation (Deutschland) and is probably the most developed and sophisticated.

DaisyThreads: 16 Posts: 2,172 Joined: Apr 28, 07 ♀	May 30, 11, 20:50 #7
Crow: In any case, after decent investments and support by entire continent Maybe people living outside of Poland don't want to invest money in Warsaw

anna n	May 30, 11, 20:51 #8
Des Essientes: What does that scuptural looking building to the left of center in the OP photo house? It looks like the prow of giant ocean liner or a work by Constantin Brancusi. It isn't build yet.

rybnikThreads: 29 Posts: 1,232 Joined: Jan 16, 11 ♂	May 30, 11, 20:55 #9
anna n: It isn't build yet. is it a "phantom" or will it be built in the future

anna n	May 30, 11, 20:57 #10
rybnik: is it a "phantom" or will it be built in the future it's slowly raising.

TheHessianThreads: 1 Posts: 52 Joined: Jan 29, 11 ♂	May 30, 11, 20:58 #11
rybnik: is it a "phantom" or will it be built in the future Its currently under construction: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=257171&page=32

PalivecThreads: - Posts: 333 Joined: Apr 22, 11 ♂	May 30, 11, 21:01 #12
Crow: i hope that most of people of this forum feel this way. Europe would be better place with Warsaw as capital of this continent, for many reasons... Give a t least one. lol

rybnikThreads: 29 Posts: 1,232 Joined: Jan 16, 11 ♂	May 30, 11, 21:05 #13
TheHessian: Its currently under construction: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=257171&page=32 That's an inspired design. Does it have a name?

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May 30, 11, 21:20 #14

rybnik:

Does it have a name?

Złota 44 - which is the street adress as far as I know.
Among other things its going to contain 251 apartments.

I wish here in Frankfurt they would take some inspiration from that, all our skyscrapers are exclusivly office building with no flats :-/

BTW. am I the only one who thinks that the fact that Crow picked a render CGI instead of a real photograph to present Wasaw, probably without even realizing it, incredibly ironic and fitting?
Shows just perfectly how much he really knows what he's talking about ;)

Antek_StalichThreads: 6 Posts: 1,533 Joined: May 6, 11 ♂	May 30, 11, 21:49 #15
Warsaw is the natural capital of Europe, not Brussel I thought it should be Budapest.

Des EssientesThreads: 11 Posts: 2,318 Joined: Feb 6, 10 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: Des Essientes May 30, 11, 22:37 #16
Antek_Stalich: Budapest. I agree. The Ister is very much Europe's central river and since the Magyars are neither Slavs nor Latins, nor Gemanics their capital would be a good neutral choice too. Another good choice would be Crete because that is the first place in Europe that its Phoenician namesake was taken to.

Antek_StalichThreads: 6 Posts: 1,533 Joined: May 6, 11 ♂	Edited by: Antek_Stalich May 30, 11, 22:49 #17
Honestly, when our company needed to gather our clients from all over East Europe, we were always choosing Budapest. Great hotel base, equal driving distance and what can I say? Budapest is far nicer than Warsaw. Serbs need no visa to Budapest, something for Crow ;-) Budapest bikers, April 2nd, 2011.

Des EssientesThreads: 11 Posts: 2,318 Joined: Feb 6, 10 ♂ [Suspended]	May 30, 11, 22:53 #18
Antek_Stalich: Honestly, when our company needed to gather our clients from all over East Europe, we were always choosing Budapest. Great hotel base, equal driving distance and what can I say? Budapest is far nicer than Warsaw. Making businessmen more comfortable is a banal reason to choose Budapest for a European Capital

Antek_StalichThreads: 6 Posts: 1,533 Joined: May 6, 11 ♂	May 30, 11, 22:54 #19
It is the East Europe Capital already ;-)

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Edited by: Crow May 30, 11, 23:11 #20

Palivec:

Give a t least one. lol

Poles are Slavs and Catholic, right.

Now, for western Europeans fact that Poles are Catholics should be enough of a reason to be satisfy with Warsaw. On the other side, Slavs would be satisfy that one major Slavic country represent center of Europe and giving capital to the continent.

See? You can`t say same for the Brussels. Its fact that Slavs don`t feel Brussels as center that could care of their interests, too.

Antek_Stalich:

I thought it should be Budapest.

Budapest?

you won`t love idea when you learn that creation of Budapest (Buda was merged with Pesta) was inspired and financed by Serbians. It was back in time when Serbs learned Hungarians to ride horses properly (in the same time Serbs formed first winged cavalry in Poland) to be able to resist to Turks. Actually, Serbs were Hungarian first and last line against Turks. Then, in reward to Serbians, Hungarians committed massive genocide on them. From the Budapest to the Seged and Srbobran (Sentomas), Serbians were slaughtered and scattered.

Des Essientes:

I agree.

above comment goes for you, too

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	May 30, 11, 23:57 #21
Warsaw actually sounds like a lethal fighting weapon whereas Brussels is the name of a pate (pasztet). On a more serious note, Warsaw could lay some claim based on fighting for Europe in the past. Poland was a pioneer of democracy, albeit short lived back in the day.

David_18Threads: 111 Posts: 1,212 Joined: Jan 4, 07 ♂	May 31, 11, 00:00 #22
Seanus: Poland was a pioneer of democracy, albeit short lived back in the day. Short lived?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	May 31, 11, 00:01 #23
It means not for a long time, David ;)

David_18Threads: 111 Posts: 1,212 Joined: Jan 4, 07 ♂	May 31, 11, 00:08 #24
Seanus: It means not for a long time, David ;) Ever since the 16'th century Poland has been a pioneer for democracy. But i guess your ignorant ass don't care.

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May 31, 11, 00:09 #25

Crow:

you won`t love idea when you learn that creation of Budapest (Buda was merged with Pesta) was inspired and financed by Serbians.

You mean at the break of centuries 19th/20th c. when both cities were merged and indeed developed? At the time Budapest was the second capital city of the Austro-Hungarian monarchy? I will read with interest about Serbian participation in the construction of the St. Stephen's Cathedral and of the Parliament. I also wonder if I'm wrong thinking Vojvodina used to be a Hungarian province for a long time?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	May 31, 11, 00:17 #26
David, I meant their earliest efforts were foiled by the Soviets. There was a Constitution but it was dismantled as the Soviets disliked what it represented. That's what I meant.

Des EssientesThreads: 11 Posts: 2,318 Joined: Feb 6, 10 ♂ [Suspended]	May 31, 11, 00:19 #27
Seanus: David, I meant their earliest efforts were foiled by the Soviets. There was a Constitution but it was dismantled as the Soviets disliked what it represented Seanus you must mean the Imperial Russians not the Soviets.

David_18Threads: 111 Posts: 1,212 Joined: Jan 4, 07 ♂	May 31, 11, 00:47 #28
Seanus: David, I meant their earliest efforts were foiled by the Soviets. There was a Constitution but it was dismantled as the Soviets disliked what it represented. That's what I meant. I know that. Your kind don't like to talk about what happend before the 20'th century.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	May 31, 11, 01:03 #29
David_18: Ever since the 16'th century Poland has been a pioneer for democracy. Uh, the liberal veto wasn't exactly a great endorsement of democracy.

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,432 Joined: May 28, 09 ♀	May 31, 11, 01:05 #30
Crow: i hope that most of people of this forum feel this way. Europe would be better place with Warsaw as capital of this continent, for many reasons... So true, Crow!

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