Could what happened in Norway happen in Poland?

sobieskiThreads: 82 Posts: 1,143 Joined: Jun 1, 08 ♂	Jul 23, 11, 22:00 #1
I think it is perfectly possible that in Poland an extreme-right religious fundamentalist would copycat his Norwegian "colleague". Loads of them here in Poland. What do you think about this ?

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Jul 23, 11, 22:03 #2

I think it is perfectly possible that in Poland an extreme-right religious fundamentalist would copycat his Norwegian "colleague".
Loads of them here in Poland.
What do you think about this ?

Sadly possible. For now they stick to pitching plastic tents on the most beautiful street in the country and yelling rubbish through megaphones while the nearby restaurateurs lose business. That and throwing holy water at people on the Equality March.

One day something worse will happen.

sobieskiThreads: 82 Posts: 1,143 Joined: Jun 1, 08 ♂	Edited by: sobieski Jul 23, 11, 22:05 #3
I think the same. The same nutters who yell all day "Tusk is a ***" are perfectly possible to take it a step further. With the support of the whole Polska B crowd. The thing is they violate every possible city regulation and could perfectly be cleaned up without a problem.

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Jul 23, 11, 22:06 #4

For now they stick to pitching plastic tents on the most beautiful street in the country and yelling rubbish through megaphones while the nearby restaurateurs lose business. That and throwing holy water at people on the Equality March.

I was thinking the exact same thing!.....what are the plastic tent people yelling? what are they protesting? the presence of foreigners?? What is the Equality March?

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Edited by: JonnyM Jul 23, 11, 22:08 #5
what are the plastic tent people yelling? what are they protesting? That Premier Tusk should be arrested for murdering Lech Kaczynski. They have big signs written in English so tourists can read them. What is the Equality March? Like a gay parade but very discreet and family oriented.

Pinching PeteThreads: 1 Posts: 1,111 Joined: Feb 23, 08 ♂	Jul 23, 11, 22:10 #6
Yes, of course it could happen in Poland. There's no nutter like a religious nutter. Sadly, what can you really do to prevent one guy? He was dressed a policeman too. You can have extreme views but why the hell take it out on a bunch of kids?

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Jul 23, 11, 22:11 #7

I was thinking the exact same thing!.....what are the plastic tent people yelling? what are they protesting? the presence of foreigners?? What is the Equality March?

They insist that Tusk purchased a SAM from Putin and shot down the duck mission by himself.
No seriously, their profile fits very well into the one of that Norwegian madman, I think they are perfectly capable within their fanaticism to do the same. Religious fundamentalists...all of them... and geothermal rydzyk will was his hands in blood afterwards.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Jul 23, 11, 22:12 #8
No,Poles are peaceful Slavs with no history of terrorist actions.

rybnikThreads: 29 Posts: 1,232 Joined: Jan 16, 11 ♂	Jul 23, 11, 22:18 #9
That Premier Tusk should be arrested for murdering Lech Kaczynski. They have big signs written in English so tourists can read them wow They insist that Tusk purchased a SAM from Putin and shot down the duck mission by himself huh?......that's some serious craziness.

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Jul 23, 11, 22:21 #10

think the same. The same nutters who yell all day "Tusk is a ***" are perfectly possible to take it a step further.

yeah - actually it was a PO supporter who drew out a gun and fired it killing an assistant in a PiS MP's office in Łódź, and then assaulted some other people present there with a knife - luckily for the MP he was not present in the office at that time - eventually it turned out that the gunner was in Warsaw and was trying to get Jarosław Kaczyński in the reach of his gun but somehow he was unable or failed to (I can't remember but my guess JarKacz was not in town at that time)

to lessen the political impact of the actions of that gunner (a Kaczyński hater but not a simple person with a mental disorder or - just filled and driven by his hate) PO politicians and some media lied manipulated and made up things around the events

on the other hand I haven't heard of any serious or/and deliberate attack by PiS supporters on their political opponents

it is true that there is no so much hate spewed against PiS as there used to be when PiS was part of a coalition government but the seed of hate and scorn was sawn and they are still around

emhaThreads: - Posts: 180 Joined: Nov 24, 10 ♂	Jul 23, 11, 22:21 #11
What do you think about this ? I remember when one PO-supporter killed one PIS member and wounded the second. It was in Łódź.

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Jul 23, 11, 22:23 #12

wow
They insist that Tusk purchased a SAM from Putin and shot down the duck mission by himself

huh?......that's some serious craziness.

No...that is not true of course. But they do tell that the Prime Minister is directly responsible for the death of the duck - the previous president -.
The fanaticism of the namiotists for me is of the same degree of that equally extreme right religious fundamentalist in Norway. Same madness. It does not take much to take your smolenkist views into "direct action".

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Jul 23, 11, 22:26 #13
media lied manipulated and made up things That's what they all say. deliberate attack by PiS supporters on their political opponents Yet.

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Jul 23, 11, 22:37 #14

deliberate attack by PiS supporters on their political opponents

Yet.

the thing is PiS does not use a war rhetoric (remember Mr Wajda part of Mr Komorowski honorary support committee uttering some phrases about 'wojna polsko-polsko') - PiS does not use hate and contempt or disparaging language against its opponents (remember 'bydło' by Mr Bartoszewski - all the PiS voters are cattle according to him? perhaps remember his 'dyplomatołki' too, do you? ever heard of 'dożynanie watahy' by Mr Sikorski 'culling the remainder of the wolf pack (my English is far from perfect - perhaps there is much better translation of 'dożynanie watahy' ) - yes PiS often says PO government is a disgrace in my oppinion rightly so

LlamaticThreads: 4 Posts: 605 Joined: May 26, 11 ♂ [Suspended]	Jul 23, 11, 22:48 #15
throwing holy water at people on the Equality March GASP! Oh no, not water!!!! Did they beat you with feathers too? :s

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Edited by: Grzegorz_ Jul 23, 11, 22:56 #16

an extreme-right religious fundamentalist would copycat his Norwegian "colleague"

Dude was also pro-"gay", pro-Jew and a mason, you wouldn't find such a mix here.

Sadly possible.

Why am I not surprised that you two koonts are using this terrible case to push your marxist agenda ? After all, what one could expect from "people" masturbating over death of 96 persons in an airplane crash.

are perfectly possible to take it a step further.

It has already happened. PO pieace of sh*t supporter killing last year.

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Jul 23, 11, 23:01 #17

The fanaticism of the namiotists

No seriously, their profile fits very well into the one of that Norwegian madman, I think they are perfectly capable within their fanaticism to do the same. Religious fundamentalists...all of them... and geothermal rydzyk will was his hands in blood afterwards.

Please, have a life - right now you just as obsessed as that smolensk-conspiracy crowd.
Alternatively, leave Poland and save yourself instead of posting your insane theories.

I remember when one PO-supporter killed one PIS member and wounded the second. It was in Łódź.

He wasn't a PO-supporter, just a guy in mentally unstable condition with diagnosed cancer who decided to kill a random politician.

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Edited by: gumishu Jul 23, 11, 23:09 #18

I remember when one PO-supporter killed one PIS member and wounded the second. It was in Łódź.

He wasn't a PO-supporter, just a guy in mentally unstable condition with diagnosed cancer who decided to kill a random politician.

you haven't followed the news closely enough it seems - and what you believe is just what the media wanted you to believe - as far as I know he surely didn't want to kill a random politician - neither the stories that he visited the office of Stefan Niesiołowski were true - Niesiołowski probably made it up http://lodz.gazeta.pl/lodz/1,35136,8607405,Ryszarda_C__nie_bylo_w_biur ze_posla_Niesiolowskiego.html

the guy didn't have a serious mental disorder too - http://www.tvn24.pl/0,1690566,0,1,ryszard-c-byl-poczytalny,wiadomosc.h tml

and not only was he a supporter of PO, he even was a member of PO - http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/raporty/napad-na-biuro-pis/ryszard-c-byl-czl onkiem-po-nie-wiedzielismy,1,4118223,wiadomosc.html

so the reality is not as bright as you think it is BartekM - and as many people like yourself you believe in things some people desperately want you to believe (by hushing up inconvenient facts)

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09 ♂	Edited by: gumishu Jul 23, 11, 23:21 #19
another read on Ryszard C. the gunner from Łódz PiS office http://niepoprawni.pl/blog/164/bohaterski-ryszard-cyba and another one - http://wpolityce.pl/view/2938/Kim_jest_Ryszard_C____czlowiekiem_bez_pr zeszlosci_.html

BartekMThreads: 1 Posts: 10 Joined: Jul 23, 11 ♂	Jul 23, 11, 23:30 #20
gumishu: OK, so he is a PO supporter, I really didn't care so I didn't keep up with the unfolding of his story. Anyway, his case is a contradiction of sobieski's laments - it's the "secular and enlightened PO supporters" who are the fanatic killers :D

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Jul 24, 11, 00:00 #21

Anything is possible, and some freak occurrence can always take place anywhere. But the fact is that Poland's leftist and rightist extremists may use provocative invectives but have yet to resort to violence of the Norwegian variety. It seems that all the violence (rioting, shoot-ups, anti-globalist rampages, etc.) take palce mainly in the 'progressive', 'enlightened' and 'liberal' countres of the decadent. libertine West.

enderThreads: 13 Posts: 528 Joined: Nov 7, 09 ♂	Jul 24, 11, 00:04 #22
After all, what one could expect from "people" masturbating over death of 96 persons in an airplane crash. You have made my day. Thank you.

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Jul 24, 11, 00:08 #23
think it is perfectly possible that in Poland an extreme-right religious fundamentalist would copycat his Norwegian "colleague". Loads of them here in Poland. What do you think about this ? I think that you have no clue about Poland or you are trolling...

antheadsThreads: 13 Posts: 306 Joined: Jan 21, 11 ♂	Jul 24, 11, 01:01 #24
Why is he trolling?, there are plenty of far right extremists in poland, and it only takes one who is mentally gone to be taken advantage of and used like this guy in norway? Did anyone see the reports that he was involved in freemasonry? Secret societies and terrorrism attacks have a long history.

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Edited by: BartekM Jul 24, 11, 01:18 #25

there are plenty of far right extremists in poland,

Really, do you personally know any? Perhaps you should call the police, otherwise that would make you an accomplice?

and it only takes one who is mentally gone to be taken advantage of and used like this guy in norway?

Anything can happen anywhere.
The guy sobieski clearly has problems of his own, that he has to deal with, otherwise some day he might just start shooting people, believing he is defending himself from "right wing religious fanatics".

Pinching PeteThreads: 1 Posts: 1,111 Joined: Feb 23, 08 ♂	Jul 24, 11, 01:49 #26
Hmm.. where the hell is Grunwald?

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Edited by: ender Jul 24, 11, 02:47 #27

Looks like Mr. Anders Behring Breivik is not so conservative as claim newspapers. He is mason. I know a lot of people going to lough at it. But before please explain his masonic apron.

You can find bigger but but 'updated' picture in 'his' facebook account (not his really)
the only true in media is information is his view about islam and one more thing he was very pro-Israelli
Historically only socialists and communists were terrorists I see no reason why it suddenly became false.
Plus keep in mind that murder of conservative PM was in fact member of PO.

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Jul 24, 11, 03:14 #28

Why am I not surprised that you two koonts are using this terrible case to push your marxist agenda ?
After all, what one could expect from "people" masturbating over death of

The Left is despicable like that. They actually enjoy such events that provide an opportunity for them to bash the Right. Just look how giddy they have been in these threads, pointing their filthy fingers. Clearly they are enjoying this tragedy. Despicable. But that's the 'tolerant and enlightened' Left for ya...

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Edited by: hague1cmaeron Jul 24, 11, 03:29 #29

What do you think about this ?

Well given the stupidly aggressive language employed by PIS, it is a possibility that some mentally unstable person might take up the challenge.
For instance does anybody remember the PIS MP at the cross demonstration in front of the presidential palace talking about about using that Russian machine gun to shoot people, before jumping over one to the barricades put by the police?

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Edited by: Llamatic Jul 24, 11, 03:38 #30

Well given the stupidly aggressive language employed by PIS, it is a possibility that some mentally unstable person might take up the challenge.

We heard this same boo-hoo here from the Left after the Arizona shootings. It's really nothing more than the Left using the tragic event to try and stifle the Right. Despicable.

At what point are individuals responsible for their own actions? Should society be inconvenienced and be forced to carefully select their every word only because there might be one nutjob somewhere out there who can't control themselves? Shall we dumb down all public debate to that level? If so, the crazies have won.

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