Wroclaw man helping police after recent events in Norway

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Edited by: Moderator Jul 25, 11, 13:21 #1
Arrested in Wrocław. Probably we will have more details soon. Polish man arrested for helping the Norweigan terrorist.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Jul 25, 11, 13:31 #2
Soon the usual koonts will arrive saying that it's one more example of Polish mass killing.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Jul 25, 11, 13:37 #3
Soon the usual koonts will arrive saying that it's one more example of Polish mass killing. And the usual racist bigots (hi Greg) will start claiming that the man isn't actually Polish.

BartekMThreads: 1 Posts: 10 Joined: Jul 23, 11 ♂	Jul 25, 11, 13:40 #4
Threads like that should be automatically deleted unless their title is neutral and ubiased. For all we know, they might have arrested law-abiding supplier of chemicals, who couldn't know how the ingredients would be used.

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Jul 25, 11, 13:42 #5

So, it is getting international / europeanal.

On Guardian.co.uk

European security sources confirmed they were investigating claims that Breivik and other far-right individuals attended the inaugural meeting of the far-right Knights Templar group in London in 2002. They said there had been increased internet chatter from individuals claiming they belonged to the Knights Templar, an organisation referred to by Breivik in a 1,500-page manifesto published online hours before he began his killing spree.

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Edited by: SzwedwPolsce Jul 25, 11, 13:43 #6
Threads like that should be automatically deleted unless their title is neutral and ubiased. It is very neutral. I just write what the Police have told. I did not add any values or personal thought about it.

BartekMThreads: 1 Posts: 10 Joined: Jul 23, 11 ♂	Jul 25, 11, 13:45 #7
I just write what the Police have told. No you did not. You repeated what some tabloid media have said.

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Edited by: Torq Jul 25, 11, 13:50 #8

Breivik bought the fertilizer (or whatever it was) online in an officially registered shop.
I wonder how was the seller supposed to know that he's "helping the Norwegian terrorist."

Anyway - the funniest (saddest?) thing about it is, that if the Polish fertilizer merchant
is found guilty of aiding the murder (współudział w zabójstwie) he can be sentenced,
according to Polish law, to 25 years in prison, whilst the mass murderer himself,
according to Norwegian law, can't get more than 21 years.

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Edited by: SzwedwPolsce Jul 25, 11, 13:52 #9
We have very few details yet. We will have to wait and see. Maybe he has not done anything criminal at all. We will see.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Jul 25, 11, 13:52 #10
No you did not. You repeated what some tabloid media have said. how are we to discuss it, if szwed doesn't post it. he did post a valid link.

skysoulmateThreads: 41 Posts: 3,039 Joined: Jan 10, 10 ♂	Jul 25, 11, 13:54 #11
I'm confused, the link implies no one was arrested? Is it an updated version maybe?

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Jul 25, 11, 13:55 #12
The Polish guy can only be charged if he knew that the goods were going to be used to kill people... Supplying fertiliser to a garden business is not any crime.... Probably he will not be charged ...

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: Torq Jul 25, 11, 13:56 #13
he did post a valid link. Really? Please tell me what does... "Zamach w Norwegii. CBŚ dementuje: właściciel hurtowni bez zarzutów." and "Centralne Biuro Śledcze zdementowało doniesienia RMF FM o tym, że policja i ABW zatrzymały właściciela firmy internetowej handlującej chemikaliami w związku z zamachami w Norwegii." ...mean in Polish, and then compare it to the thread title.

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Edited by: SzwedwPolsce Jul 25, 11, 13:56 #14
I'm confused, the link implies no one was arrested? Is it an updated version maybe? They updated it now. Different Police sources have said different things. I think everybody is confused now. We will have to wait and see.

BartekMThreads: 1 Posts: 10 Joined: Jul 23, 11 ♂	Jul 25, 11, 13:57 #15
how are we to discuss it, if szwed doesn't post it. he did post a valid link. I'm confused, the link implies no one was arrested? Is it an updated version maybe? Yes, it is. But nice to see on the front page that a Pole knowingly helped a mass murderer, even if that's BS.

alexw68	Jul 25, 11, 13:59 #16
But nice to see on the front page that a Pole knowingly helped a mass murderer, even if that's BS. Fair point. Can someone stick a question mark on the end?

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER ♂	Jul 25, 11, 14:01 #17
nice to see on the front page that a Pole knowingly helped a mass murderer, even if that's BS. How typically PF. Now, let's wait for "Breivik was only a Norwegian pawn in evil Polish fertilizer merchant's plan" thread :D

skysoulmateThreads: 41 Posts: 3,039 Joined: Jan 10, 10 ♂	Edited by: skysoulmate Jul 25, 11, 14:01 #18
But nice to see on the front page that a Pole knowingly helped a mass murderer, even if that's BS. Well, Szwed didn't do anything wrong, he posted a source without any personal views attached to it so we could judge ourselves.. I wish the article stated "for allegedly helping the terrorist..." but that's not Szwed's fault. Maybe the allegedly can be added to the subject line?

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Jul 25, 11, 14:04 #19
But nice to see on the front page that a Pole knowingly helped a mass murderer, even if that's BS. there are plenty of negative threads here. it is allowed to post such things. once the thread is in place it is up to posters to discuss it. don't expect this policy to change anytime soon.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Jul 25, 11, 14:05 #20
There are probably cops all over Europe arresting anyone that might have a connection to this terrible event... most of them will be released without charge.....

skysoulmateThreads: 41 Posts: 3,039 Joined: Jan 10, 10 ♂	Jul 25, 11, 14:06 #21
There are probably cops all over Europe arresting anyone that might have a connection to this terrible event... most of them will be released without charge..... Agree, they're looking into any and all possible links.

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Edited by: Torq Jul 25, 11, 14:08 #22

the article says no one was arrested

It doesn't matter - the news will be repeated, distorted and repeated again, and what will stick
will be that the Norwegian terrorist was not acting alone, but in fact he was a part of a large
right-wing terrorist group, with headquarters in Poland where all the supplies for the bombs came
from.

It will once again confirm one of the main leftist dogmas, that Poland is The Source of All Evil in the World.

Updating the news and denying the Polish connection will be laughed at - it's too late.

DaisyThreads: 16 Posts: 2,172 Joined: Apr 28, 07 ♀	Jul 25, 11, 14:09 #23
Wildrover: There are probably cops all over Europe arresting anyone that might have a connection to this terrible event... Who knows, we could be next, maybe he posted on this forum and we all spoke to him. Crow could turn out to be Norwegian and not Serbian after all, such is the internet.

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Edited by: SzwedwPolsce Jul 25, 11, 14:13 #24
It will once again confirm one of the main leftist dogmas, that Poland is The Source of All Evil in the World. I think that I have never read in any Scandinavian media, that Poland would be an evil country. Rather the opposite, they often show sympathy with Poland and its history.

hague1cmaeronThreads: 21 Posts: 1,652 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂	Edited by: hague1cmaeron Jul 25, 11, 14:14 #25
He seems to be a business owner.

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Edited by: Torq Jul 25, 11, 14:15 #26

The thread title: Alleged arrest of Polish man for helping the Norweigan terrorist

How about "Alleged arrest of Polish man for allegedly helping the Norwegian terrorist"?

You could also add "for allegedly helping the Norwegian terrorist, by legally selling him
some fertilizer in his officially registered online store."

Is there a limit to some people's:

a) stupidity
b) hatred of Poland

?

No, I don't think there is.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Jul 25, 11, 14:15 #27
It will once again confirm one of the main leftist dogmas, that Poland is The Source of All Evil in the World. When are you going to get your head round the fact that the vast majority of people in the world very simply do not give a flying fucck about Poland?

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Edited by: skysoulmate Jul 25, 11, 14:15 #28

Posted by Torq:

It doesn't matter - the news will be repeated, distorted and repeated again, and what will stick
will be that the Norwegian terrorist was not acting alone, but in fact he was a part of a large
right-wing terrorist group, with headquarters in Poland where all the supplies for the bombs came
from.

It will once again confirm one of the main leftist dogmas, that Poland is The Source of All Evil in the World.

Updating the news and denying the Polish connection will be laughed at - it's too late.

Torq, with all due respect I beg to differ. PF isn't exactly a major news outlet that people look up when thinking of the latest and most up to date news. Besides, google, yahoo, etc. search functions continuously update themselves so if the subject line is changed there won't be any confusion whatsoever. I bet you there will be people interviewed and maybe even arrested in the UK, US, Czech republic (that's where he tried to buy a gun but failed), and many other countries.

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Jul 25, 11, 14:15 #29

what will stick will be that the Norwegian terrorist was not acting alone, but in fact he was a part of a large right-wing terrorist group, with headquarters in Poland where all the supplies for the bombs came
from.

Poles, what you are doing is taking responsibility of crime indirectly..

If there is a headquarter of that right wing group, it is London. His group is a London based far-right Knights Templar group who that Norweigan too is a member. (Who knows, there are members of this group on PF too..)

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Jul 25, 11, 14:16 #30
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