What is wrong with Poland that Poles immigrate?

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Aug 23, 08, 03:04 #151

truebrit:

Agreed - but not all agencies are bad.There are some reputable ones who will treat you reasonably and give you holidays etc(but the pay is still lower than permanent work).As you know many people work for an agency while looking for a permanent job which is probably the most sensible way.

I've worked with about 5 different agencies thinking that the way you're treated was down to just one individual agency but they were all the same. Yes, I was entitled to holidays, I think everyone is but you're not entitled to pay for bank holidays, Easter holidays or even the Christmas holidays so you can go approx. 2 weeks without getting paid. There are going to be many many people that aren't going to get paid for this bank holiday coming. I find that unfair especially with the price of living soaring. Agencies are only good for those that are desperate.

You should look for a permanent job in the UK via www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk
Speaking fluent English is a MUST with most jobs.

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Aug 25, 08, 05:44 #152

Foreigner4:

...is rubbish according to the 10 or so doctors i've met. (but perhaps the plumbers own the clinics). Perhaps you meant if doctors only work in a hospital? Doctors make pretty good money when they work privately compared to plumbers working privately.

Yes, you're right. Doctors in practice earn much more because they work in several places. But I don't think a doctor should work that much - it's hard to concentrate when one's so tired.

British girl

Dec 2, 09, 14:34 #153

To begin with, lots of people immigrated after world war 2 because they had friends and family in england and Britains economy was a lot stronger than the Polish. Recently, I think it is because the UK granted free movement to workers from the new member states. Britain is just a cheaper easier place to live in, also, because we are a rich country, most of us can afford to be choosy about our jobs, which means that the ones nobody wants to do are free. Polish people do the jobs we don't want to do. They are doing no harm and help alot, so we should just leave them be.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 2, 09, 15:13 #154
What is wrong with Poland that Poles immigrate? its tottaly irrelevant if one serve to foreingners in Poland or outside of Poland

niejestemcapitaThreads: 3 Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 3, 09 ♀	Dec 2, 09, 15:13 #155
British girl: Polish people do the jobs we don't want to do. I wish people would stop repeating this inane lie.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Dec 2, 09, 15:17 #156
Like many things, there is some truth in that, njc. It has been captured in documentaries and I can really imagine it being true, knowing how Poles will accept less to get away from the humdrum of their home life. Also, there are many such jobs in the UK.

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Edited by: niejestemcapita Dec 2, 09, 15:24 #157

Seanus:

Like many things, there is some truth in that, njc.

(sighs)
Seanus you don't live here and haven't done for some years now. so what would know about the reality of life in the UK today?
The only reason that Polish people can take low wage jobs isn't because British people dont want to do them, more they don't want /can't live 10 to a room, skipping off when the Council Tax bill/leccy/gas comes on top.
Besides in my town I don't see Polish people in crappy jobs that "British people don't want", I see them in jobs we would be grateful for.
Time for this myth to stop being peddled.

irish exile

Dec 2, 09, 16:40 #158

what can i say... dont you just love some of the brain dead brits in this world....

polish come to england to work and work hard and yes some go back to poland with the money why the hell not?

the brits have done it for years the building industry in the 80's (germany) i rest my case .

their are more pressing worries in this wonderful country, but of course we can talk about that ask the swiss and their planning regulators.

i say good luck to anyone who works hard to give their family a better life.

derek trotterThreads: 12 Posts: 252 Joined: Apr 10, 09 ♂	Dec 2, 09, 16:46 #159
British girl: To begin with, lots of people immigrated after world war 2 because they had friends and family in england and Britains economy was a lot stronger than the Polish. what a dumb statement! dont want to be rude but you certainly need some education in this field

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Dec 2, 09, 17:03 #160

niejestemcapita:

Time for this myth to stop being peddled.

Have you been to Costa Coffee recently? Nearly every Costa coffee or coffee shop I have been to (airports and Motorway service stations) have a Polish or an Eastern European person working there.

Its a Job most English people won't do. There are Polish people with good jobs in England too but to say the statement is a myth is just wrong.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Dec 2, 09, 17:07 #161
Steveramsfan: Its a Job most English people won't do. Rubbish! niejestemcapita: Polish people do the jobs we don't want to do. I wish people would stop repeating this inane lie. Niejest is correct.

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Edited by: Ksysia Dec 2, 09, 20:32 #162

Steveramsfan:

Nearly every Costa coffee or coffee shop I have been to (airports and Motorway service stations) have a Polish or an Eastern European person working there.

Its a Job most English people won't do.

Actually, the coffee place that I go to, Nero, has two English 20yo people and they are so sweet and cheerful that I tip for the coffee £2 each time.

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http://polkaontheisland.wordpress.com/2009/12/02/why-are-polish-people -coming-to-the-uk-other-reasons/

derek trotterThreads: 12 Posts: 252 Joined: Apr 10, 09 ♂	Dec 2, 09, 21:28 #163
Ksysia On your blog you have mention your status in UK There is only one problem with it, you can't call yourself an Ex-pat, you are an ordinary immigrant from Eastern Europe. Didn't you know this term is reserved for people from western countries ?

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Dec 2, 09, 21:32 #164

I read an article specifically about this phenomenon about 3 years ago. It mentioned that accountants and even doctors etc were moving from Poland to England because with the strength of the pound they were able to make a better living, even in unskilled work than they could at home. It was talking about a fear that Poland would end up loosing it's skilled labour force and looking at ways that this could be turned around.

It went on to mention that the Polish government was looking at incentives to help retain it's work force. Now I am not sure what these policies are/were, but I remember reading a follow up article (which I was able to find again) http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3378877.ece which suggests that the tide is turning and stating to flow back the other way.

This makes sense, with a strong pound compared to a weak PLN and weaker overall economy it made sense for people to go out and make a start in life, the opening of the doors in regards to removing work restrictions means this was not surprising, nor is the trend for them to want to go home after a period of time as well.

Just in case anything I have said is inflammatory.. (cannot see what, but I know some people are a bit touchy), I am not British and have no qualms either way, I feel that the EU is working as designed and this was always going to be the case. The idea was to pool the strengths of Europe together.

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Dec 2, 09, 22:53 #165
time means: Rubbish! Yeah like I would seen you plucking up cabage all day long lol :P

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07 ♂	Dec 28, 09, 21:42 #166
What is wrong with Poland that Poles immigrate? No jobs most likely.

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Edited by: SouthMancPolak Jun 6, 10, 22:59 #167

Steveramsfan:

Have you been to Costa Coffee recently? Nearly every Costa coffee or coffee shop I have been to (airports and Motorway service stations) have a Polish or an Eastern European person working there.

Its a Job most English people won't do.

Rubbish.

One Costa I used to go in regularly had Polish, English, Irish, Turkish, Thai and Brazilian staff. But the majority of the staff were English. But, if you look at the area it was in, and follow your argument, then you would think that working in Costa was "a job which Pakis won't do".

We have TEN MILLION people in the UK who don't work. You can't seriously tell me that ALL of those people don't want to work. I'm sure there's a few million who don't, but as for the rest, they probably can't get work because immigrants have filled those jobs.

Remember also the other lie, that "immigration is good for our economy"? Well, we've had years of mass immigration, but the economy is in the worst state since the 1930s. So how on earth has that "improved" things?

And see what happens if you're a "local" these days...

http://menmedia.co.uk/news/s/1118779_teen_quits_over_salford_accent

Yet people with foreign accents have no problem finding similar jobs, and no-one expects them to go for elocution lessons!

But the Left still can't understand why more and more people are getting fed up of unrestricted immigration. It's not racist to look after your own first - everyone else does it!

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