Do you think Tusk will be forced to resign?

With Polish youth massively being anti-ACTA

do you think Poles will demand for his resignation?

With Polish youth massively being anti-ACTA and people rejecting many of Tusk's pro German decisions making him look like he listens to everything Merkel says, do you think Poles will demand for his resignation?

Sikorski is also backing him up - and Sikorski is probably the most powerful man in Poland.

If u watch demotywatory.pl, kwej.pl. sadistci.pl and other services which are very popular among polish youth/internauts u will see that Tusk have won competition for the most laugh politician. Even Kaczyński has got not so much attention as Tusk. It does't matter what will Tusk say, he has lost a lot because of ACTA.

I really don't understand him or can't figure out his intentions, he's some kind of a enigma.

No. People care more about four years of unprecedented economic growth, more than they care about having their right to steal Avatar off the internets curtailed.

People have short memories. All it'll take is one more stupid move from Kaczynski and everyone will forget about ACTA and go back to criticising Kaczynski - there are no elections for years anyway. In fact, it sets Tusk up nicely - there will be a declaration of "NOT IN THE NEXT SEJM" for ACTA, and everyone will be "yaay" and vote PO again. Even if they don't, the latest figures show that PO voters are moving to RP, not to PiS.


PennBoy: I really don't understand him or can't figure out his intentions, he's some kind of a enigma.

Sikorski? His political ambitions were somewhat curtailed by his loss to Komorowski in the PO Presidential primary - he's fine where he is (as a foreign minister with many powerful contacts, with the possibility of the premiership in 2015). He's definitely coming more into his own these days, and I suspect that they're already grooming him as Tusk's successor.

@ Delph: I've gotta say I don't agree with a lot of what you say but I sure do appreciate your insight. Especially when it comes to Polish politics.

try to - I'm admittedly not a PiS supporter in any way, but I try to view it fairly when commenting on these issues.

Maybe PiS is a bit too nationalistic and closed minded but I surely don't support PO either. Tusk to me, seams like a buffoon who sells Poland either to Germany or Russia. Poland's weakness was always lack of a strong one man leadership. Poland's neighbors know that a Pole like a Russian will sell his country, his friend or himself to the highest bidder. Germany and Russia are way too involved in Polish politics and want to control it for their own purposes. It's Poland's bad geographical position that makes a need for it to be independent and have a strong powerful leader.

Good observation. Unfortunately what Poland needs is not a strong one man but to do what's right for Poland. The only way to avoid becoming another Greece is too hold on to the zloty.

only way to avoid becoming another Greece is too hold on to the zloty.

Hold on to the zloty and step out of the EU.

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Tusk to me, seams like a buffoon who sells Poland either to Germany or Russia.

Poland's weakness was always lack of a strong one man leadership.

Poland's neighbors know that a Pole like a Russian will sell his country, his friend or himself to the highest bidder.

Germany and Russia are way too involved in Polish politics and want to control it for their own purposes.

It's Poland's bad geographical position that makes a need for it to be independent and have a strong powerful leader.

Hold on to the zloty and step out of the EU.

Petrol in Poland costs something like 2 zlotys 59 grosze, meanwhile people pay 6 zlotys. Not enough tax for you?

Not enough to pay for all the retired people and people on "renta" who don't want to work.

Tusk to me, seams like a buffoon who sells Poland either to Germany or Russia.

Poland's weakness was always lack of a strong one man leadership.

The way to avoid being another Greece is to: 1) live below your means (like Germany did) 2) enforce tax laws = collect all tax monies due. The Greeks are famous for thumbing their noses at tax laws. They've all scammed their way into bankruptcy!

No. People care more about four years of unprecedented economic growth,

"OMG TUSK IS SELLING POLAND"

Maybe PiS is a bit too nationalistic and closed minded but I surely don't support PO either. Tusk to me, seams like a buffoon who sells Poland either to Germany or Russia. Poland's weakness was always lack of a strong one man leadership. Poland's neighbors know that a Pole like a Russian will sell his country, his friend or himself to the highest bidder. Germany and Russia are way too involved in Polish politics and want to control it for their own purposes. It's Poland's bad geographical position that makes a need for it to be independent and have a strong powerful leader.

One thing he (or any other politician) can't do is to make Poland an island. They have to work with what they've got which is a country sandwiched between two massive economies

try to - I'm admittedly not a PiS supporter in any way, but I try to view it fairly when commenting on these issues. It probably helps that I don't particularly like any of the Polish parties - I'm a centrist voter, but no party in Poland really is such a thing.

What's interesting to look at is the future of Polish politics - right now, the latest opinion polls are showing a rise in support to 17% for Ruch Palikota. Whether or not this is sustainable is one thing - but it could very well be that people will become less afraid of Kaczynski winning power and some of PO's support will move to Ruch Palikota. Either way, right now, I don't see any way for PiS to return to government unless Kaczynski retires permanently.

What's also interesting is that the opposition right now in Poland has completely run out of ideas - they've been shouting about ACTA being a crisis for Tusk, but in reality, it isn't - especially as PiS supporters were stupid enough to attack a PO building. In fact, the ACTA stuff ran out of steam very quickly when the protests were hijacked by people from the opposition - I know at least 3-4 people who were anti-ACTA who actually refused to be associated with the cause once this became obvious.

You can even see this on this forum - opposition supporters are abusing Tusk, Palikot and everyone else - simply because they haven't got any ideas of their own. It's exactly the reason why the opposition is in opposition - everyone in Poland was sick of negative politics.

But thank you - any questions, start a thread ;)

step out of the EU.

step out of the EU.

Poverty on the decline in Poland
10th February 2012

The number of Poles who live below the poverty line has declined in the last six years, from 13 million to five million, according to a recent report by Eurostat, the EU's statistics agency.

Such a significant and rapid drop has not been recorded in any other country in Europe, wrote Polish daily Gazeta Wyborcza, which cites the data.

The EU currently defines someone who lives below the poverty line as someone who can't afford to pay for accommodation, electricity and heating, does not go away on vacation, and does not own a washing machine, color television or a phone.

And although 14 percent of Poles currently match these criteria, the country is fairing much better than other European countries such as Bulgaria and Romania where as many as 30 percent are currently living in poverty.

“We have grown accustomed to complaining about a bad situation, and we haven't even noticed that living conditions for many Poles have improved,” Bohdan Wyżnikiewicz, from the Gdańsk Institute for Market Economics, told Gazeta Wyborcza.

According to Mr Wyżnikiewicz, the decline in poverty can be attributed to, among other things, improvements in the job market as well as Poland's accession to the EU in 2004.

“The influx of EU funds has played a huge role as well,” he said.

Eurostat's data indicates that in the last six years the unemployment rate fell in Poland from 18 percent to 10 percent. At the same time the minimum wage increased from zł.849 in 2005 to zł.1,500 in 2012.

With Polish youth massively being anti-ACTA and people rejecting many of Tusk's pro German decisions making him look like he listens to everything Merkel says, do you think Poles will demand for his resignation?

He stubbed Serbia in the back and he live, while in the same time Lech Kaczinskly who continued to support Serbians even after this statement of Tusk, tragically died

Lech- aware of Serbian innocence couldn`t allow Poland to take part in such a treachery.

Tusk admitted that Polish government doing so on the pressure from certain world powers.

and there is nothing honest for Poland to take part in partition of some innocent country