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Poland's TVP revolution


WielkiPolak 56 | 1,007
5 Feb 2016 #1
So many have protested and been critical in Poland about the firing of certain people from TVP since PiS took over.

Watching TVP and TVP info these days, I honestly don't see any particularly biased narrative, like there was when PO was in charge and almost everything was anti PiS. Most debates on TVP info have people from all sides of the political and social spectrum in them. It's actually very fair.

Not only that, but overpaid biased goon Tomasz Lis (70 000zl per show every week) has been ditched at last and even Robert Janowski, the seemingly innocent presenter of 'Jaka to Melodia?' is reported to be getting 250 000 zl per month. Hopefully he will be on his way out soon. How can the public TV station pay guys so much? Hopefully this will be cleared up properly as soon as possible.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
5 Feb 2016 #2
Watching TVP and TVP info these days, I honestly don't see any particularly biased narrative

You don't see it because you're not looking for it. The blatant way that TVP ignored the downgrading of Poland's credit rating was a great example, but there are many more in a daily basis.

Lis also earnt a huge amount of money for TVP in advertising fees, which more than paid for his salary. TVP lost those advertising contracts when Lis left.

last and even Robert Janowski, the seemingly innocent presenter of 'Jaka to Melodia?'

Why are you so surprised? They bring in huge money in advertising, hence they command high salaries.

Most debates on TVP info have people from all sides of the political and social spectrum in them.

...as they did before the election.
OP WielkiPolak 56 | 1,007
6 Feb 2016 #3
The blatant way that TVP ignored the downgrading of Poland's credit rating was a great example, but there are many more in a daily basis.

They didn't ignore anything. In fact it was discussed during many different debates on TVP.

They bring in huge money in advertising, hence they command high salaries.

I don't believe 'Jaka to Melodia' can bring in that much. Surely not enough to give Janowski 250 000 zl per month.

...as they did before the election.

No it was always outweighed and heavier with anti PiS 'experts.' Now it's actually more even. I doubt you watch TVP much right? You're probably more of a TVN and Polsat guy.
Ziemowit 14 | 4,263
6 Feb 2016 #4
overpaid biased goon Tomasz Lis (70 000zl per show every week) has been ditched at last and even Robert Janowski, the seemingly innocent presenter of 'Jaka to Melodia?' is reported to be getting 250 000 zl per month.

Neither was worth one tenth of it. It's so good they've been fired.

The blatant way that TVP ignored the downgrading of Poland's credit rating was a great example

I am surprised since the downgradidng of Poland's rating by S&P seems to have been fair. Haven't you heard Beata Szydło telling repeatedly on various occasions of her electoral campaign that "Poland was in ruin" as a result of PO in government for the last eight years. S&P must have been listening to that as well ...
Polonius3 993 | 12,359
6 Feb 2016 #5
heavier with anti PiS 'experts.' Now it's actually more even

So you've finally seen the light. Better late than never. You have effecti'vely admitted that PO jammed the TVP airwaves with anti-PiS goons which is absolutely true. And it is also true that now under PiS, rather than a typcial reversal (constant PO bashing), as promised the reporting is far more balanced, reliable and objective. Note how every time an issue arises or a bill is passed, the reps of all the parties are called on to comment. So congrats, Delph. There is no worse fool than an incorrigibłe one!
OP WielkiPolak 56 | 1,007
7 Feb 2016 #6
Robert Janowski is replaceable. Obviously the program is popular (I can't understand why myself), but audiences do not tune in to see him, they tune in to see the show. They could swap him with somebody else and people would still watch it, so no, he does not deserve that kind of silly money, no matter how many advertisers the show brings in.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
7 Feb 2016 #7
So you think that someone that earns a considerable amount of cash for their employer shouldn't be rewarded fairly?

Communism is dead, WP.
Polonius3 993 | 12,359
7 Feb 2016 #8
Communism is dead

Not yet. The most senior Commie bigwigs are getting up to 22,000 zł monthly pensions. Commie generals -- 8,000 zł, other commie bigwigs 4,000-6,000 zł. And all this even after the PO regime cut back PZPR pensions by 14% a few years back. The pro-Polish PiS government are planning to trim those fat-cat pesniosn down to decent size. It boils down to former oppressors living in luxury and their victims barely scraping by.
OP WielkiPolak 56 | 1,007
7 Feb 2016 #9
I agree with Polonius that Communism is far from wiped out yet.

To answer the question though, no I don't. Unless the program was Janowski's and only Janowski's idea, then perhaps he merits the highest reward. I highly doubt it was his idea, he was probably just chosen as the presenter of a music program, because of his musical past. There are a lot of people who work on that show so why should he get 1/4 million zloty per month? I doubt anyone else on there gets that much.
Harry
7 Feb 2016 #10
It boils down to former oppressors living in luxury and their victims barely scraping by.

So can we expect TVP to start running programs about former loyal servants of the party who now live in properties that are far put the range of their historic salaries and were purchased from the Polish State for a song due to corrupt connections made during commie times? Or would TVP not be able to run such stories due to most of the most loyal servants of the Party when the Party was the PZPR now being loyal servants of the Party that is PIS?


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