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Number One: Jeden vs. Raz


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purpleAVAcado [Guest]
  Mar 8, 07, 09:32  #1

Can someone tell me which is the most correct number to use for 1 when counting in Poilish;
as in 1, 2, 3.

My friend who is Polish and lives in Poland insists "Ras" (spelling?) is used when counting in Polish--as in response to "Can you count to 3?"
She says "Jeden" (spelling?) (Yeden) is used for numbers in general, but for counting out-loud that "Raz" is correct.

Help?
Thoughts?


Thanks!!

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Grzegorz_
Edited by: Grzegorz_  Mar 8, 07, 09:42  #2

Quoting: purpleAVAcado
"Ras" (spelling?)


Raz

In common Polish both can be used, I don't even know what's the official version.

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krysia
  Mar 8, 07, 09:45  #3

Raz and jeden. Ahhh, the confusion.
In math you use jeden. But when you count you sometimes say jeden, sometimes raz depending on what you're counting. If couting items you would say jeden as in one banana, one finger. But if you're just counting you can say raz or jeden, whichever sounds better.

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purpleAVAcado [Guest]
  Mar 8, 07, 09:46  #4

Mar 8, 07 [10:48] - Attached on merging:
"Raz" pronunciation

Would a reasonable pronunciation of "Raz" be:

Rahs

or

Rahz

(or something else?)

Thank you very much!!

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Koach
  Mar 8, 07, 10:19  #5

I'm fairly certain it's rahs.

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FISZ
  Mar 8, 07, 11:05  #6

you may need to roll your tongue a bit when saying the R

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dziadek
  Mar 8, 07, 11:13  #7

"Raz" literaly means "once"

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A66J40
  Mar 8, 07, 11:26  #8

and how is jaden pronounced then is the J hard or soft -

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FISZ
  Mar 8, 07, 11:26  #9

like this: Yeden

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purpleAVAcado [Guest]
  Mar 8, 07, 12:00  #10

Thank you very much for the help all!!!

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Koach
  Mar 8, 07, 12:42  #11

I was very happy to help.

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dannyboy
  Mar 8, 07, 12:43  #12

Quoting: dziadek
"Raz" literaly means "once"


exactamundo.

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ella
  Mar 11, 07, 23:16  #13

jeden = one
raz / razy= once/times (3 razy 3 = 3 times 3)
pierwszy = first

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Michal
  Mar 13, 07, 16:45  #14

In counting raz, dwa trzy...jeden as someone has written above is used with a noun to describe an objest jeden dom ale jestem tutaj pierwszy raz

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FireWire
  Mar 22, 07, 06:59  #15

although im pretty much a total noob at polish (i learnt it when i was about 2 years old and my grandmoth would babysit me but haven't really spoken it since), i think i agree that raz is more like once....

would use it for maybe counting for a child... i know my polish rellies used to have some pretty crazy things to entertain the young ones

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ella
  Mar 22, 07, 09:05  #16

Quoting: FireWire
although im pretty much a total noob at polish (i learnt it when i was about 2 years old and my grandmoth would babysit me but haven't really spoken it since), i think i agree that raz is more like once....

would use it for maybe counting for a child... i know my polish rellies used to have some pretty crazy things to entertain the young ones



You will never be sure how to use some words in polish )) that's how difficult it is And it is not about how: "noob you were in polish"- trust me
Polish is one of the most difficult languages in the world , to study.


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albertz [Guest]
Edited by: Admin  Mar 23, 07, 17:50  #17

can someone give me polish numbers one to ten and the way to pronounce them? pleasealbertz

can someone give me the polish numbers one to ten and the
way to pronounce them

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krk_83 [Guest]
  Mar 26, 07, 14:55  #18

of course it's 'jeden'. You wouldn't say 'raznascie' (11 / eleven), rather 'jedenascie'.

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Big Rob
  Mar 26, 07, 17:34  #19

Jeden (Yeden)
Dwa (Dva)
Trzy (Tshi)
Cztery (Shteri)
Piec (Pyench)
Szesc (Sheshch)
siedem (shedem)
osiem (o shem)
dziewiec (dje vyench)
dziesiec (dje shench)

sz sounds like a short version of Ssssh (ie soft h, not hard like in 'Sh'e) and dz is like the j in jam.

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Michal
  Mar 30, 07, 11:22  #20

No, Polish is really very easy and logical. When counting raz, dwa, trzy ect jeden slownik, jedno slowo, jedna ulica dwa slowa ect there is nothing difficult about it. Why is Polish the most difficult language in the world?

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Michal
  Mar 30, 07, 11:23  #21

Any basic grammar book will teach you the basics for counting.

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