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OBAMA 44th President of USA... A dream fulfilled!

Marek11111 Threads: 20
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  ♂   Feb 16, 2012, 06:56pm  #

valpomike:
He does not care for the people of the U.S.A., just the rich.

you are talking about all presidents and current presidential candidates except Ron Paul


JonnyM Threads: 15
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  ♂   Feb 16, 2012, 07:06pm  #

Ron Paul as much as the others if not more so.

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  ♀   Feb 16, 2012, 07:14pm  #

Today I was stopped near my post office today by a gentleman who is running for congress, he had signs with obama and a mustache
that looked like hitler.. lol

he was saying how obama is taking us into WWIII I just listened,, I am not sure on any of these candidates I need more time
cause few of them really suck, they shouldnt ever run, they are all soaked up into themselfs and its about America as a whole not
your stupid state!!

Marek11111 Threads: 20
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  ♂   Feb 16, 2012, 08:39pm  #

Patrycja19:
he was saying how obama is taking us into WWIII I just listened

that is fact Obama with blind support of Zionist terrorist state will attack Iran which will lead to ww3 if not nuclear war as China, Russia, Afghanistan, Pakistan said they will support Iran on a hypocritical note we were building nuclear reactor for Iran before the revolution and now we are against it.
Obama is a puppet on a short leash.

ZIMMY Threads: 9
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  ♂   Feb 24, 2012, 04:34am  #

Patrycja19:
Today I was stopped near my post office today by a gentleman who is running for congress, he had signs with obama and a mustache
that looked like hitler.


Can you name that alleged gentleman? If you don't then I cannot believe you.

As to the president, it will be interesting to hear his oil policy and what he intends to do about rising gas prices in the U.S. He has already spent about $250 billion on so-called green energy without one cent of benefit to the economy. Yet, he has given $2 billion to Brazil to help their oil business (?).
Some advice from Gulf Oil CEO Joe Petrowski........http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1414970013001/gulf-ceo-xl-pipeline-woul d-cut-020-of-gallon-of-gas/

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  ♀   Feb 24, 2012, 06:47am  #

ZIMMY:
If you don't then I cannot believe you.


I dont remember his name, I didnt even keep the paper he handed me,

he is from upper michigan though that I remember, but it doesnt matter, people were barely stopping
so i dont think he is going to get to far with his campaign

ZIMMY:
and what he intends to do about rising gas prices in the U.S.


oil prices always go up during election year, they cant blame it on the fighting cause its been going on for a while now
but that will be their excuse.. of course.

the next excuse will be , oh, we lost a large load of toilets out at sea, so we need to raise the oil prices again

sheese!

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  ♂   Feb 24, 2012, 07:31am  #

Obama I think is doing his best as the President!

PlasticPole Threads: 9
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  ♀   Feb 24, 2012, 09:18am  #

They are blaming high oil prices on speculators on Wall Street.

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  ♂   Feb 24, 2012, 12:16pm  #

Patrycja19:
oil prices always go up during election year

Gas prices in the U.S. have doubled since January 20, 2009, that's when Obama took office. That is not a normal cyclical pattern and it is attributable to Obama's anti oil policies.
frankrizal:
Obama I think is doing his best as the President!

He is doing his best to enlarge government intervention into every facet of American life which keeps the economy from growing normally.

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  ♀   Feb 24, 2012, 12:20pm  #

ZIMMY:
Gas prices in the U.S. have doubled since January 20, 2009,

they're still a hell of alot cheaper than anywhere else on the planet, afaik, why do AMericans seem to think they have a a God given right to super cheap oil? Or is it my imagination?

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  ♂   Feb 24, 2012, 01:05pm  #

rozumiemnic:
still a hell of alot cheaper than anywhere else on the planet,

Why should the U.S. follow the European or any other model when it comes to oil prices? If other countries have tax policies which needlessly hike the price of gas then that is their problem. If I pay $1 for a bar of candy and someone in France pays $2 for the same candy then that is their business. Why should the lowest common denominator be anyone's standard? Your logic is upside-down.

rozumiemnic:
why do AMericans seem to think they have a a God given right to super cheap oil?

........because my Audi 8 drinks too much gas (lol)
Let the market decide, not inhibiting bureaucratic government policies. Let those who adhere to the less successful policies learn from those with the more successful ones - and not the other way around.

rozumiemnic:
is it my imagination?

Don't lower the economic standards, raise them. Europeans should pay half of what they're paying now.

JonnyM Threads: 15
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  ♂   Feb 24, 2012, 01:44pm  #

ZIMMY:
Why should the U.S. follow the European or any other model when it comes to oil prices?

Sooner or later they'll find they have to.

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  ♂   Feb 24, 2012, 03:03pm  #

You may be right but that only shows how typical the defeatist attitude has taken hold of people like you. As I've stated, why bow to a lowest common denominator? Why not look to market solutions which enhance the human condition instead of lowering it?

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  ♂   Feb 24, 2012, 03:08pm  #

ZIMMY:
defeatist

Defeatist? Using as little fossil fuel as possible is only a positive thing.

ZIMMY Threads: 9
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  ♂   Feb 24, 2012, 03:54pm  #

Many have bought into the idea that we should somehow nurture earth and most of these people have a good heart but are unfortunately naive. Same with people who have a communal bent (socialist) when it comes to society and culture... but that's another discussion.

As to fossil fuels, I've tried to do the math as to why there is so much of it and it just doesn't add up. I've added up the rates of oil use and it just doesn't seem like there should be that much fossil fuel.
Here is another possible explanation which merits additional investigation.
http://www.wnd.com/2008/02/45838/
From the link: "Giora Proskurowski of the School of Oceanography at the University of Washington in Seattle ? says the hydrogen-rich fluids venting at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean in the Lost City Hydrothermal Field were produced by the abiotic synthesis of hydrocarbons in the mantle of the earth. The abiotic theory of the origin of oil directly challenges the conventional scientific theory that hydrocarbons are organic in nature, created by the deterioration of biological material deposited millions of years ago in sedimentary rock and converted to hydrocarbons under intense heat and pressure."

"Proskurowski found hydrocarbons containing carbon-13 isotopes that appeared to be formed from the mantle of the Earth, rather than from biological material settled on the ocean floor."

Interesting eh?

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  ♂   Feb 24, 2012, 04:19pm  #

http://amlibpub.blogspot.com/2006/12/is-oil-fossil-fuel.html

It's hard to believe that so many living organisms have died and created such a vast amount of oil. It would take several earth life-times to create all those oil deposits which run into the many trillions of gallons. Here is another explanation. From the above link:

"...oil has been discovered in the earth's Archeozoic rock formations. These are the most ancient of rocks, which were formed before any plants or animals existed on earth. So petroleum here must have had an inorganic origin............ older oil wells previously regarded as depleted have been known to be replenished from below. This is certainly evidence that oil is being produced at depths in the earth (where there are no fossil remains) and being pushed upward by intense pressure from below."

It may very well be that oil supply is almost endless. Of course if this was known and accepted by the general public then gas prices would plummet. Hmmmm.

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  ♂   Feb 24, 2012, 04:33pm  #

Aside from the established fact that far more and better sources than this blog you cite are convinced the opposite is true as well as declared oil reserves and the difficulties involved with exploiting marginal sources the key issue is the damage from fossil fuel emissions to the environment. You can no doubt find a sceptic, as no doubt you can find a flat-earther, creationist or AIDS-denier, however they are fortunately in the underwhelming minority.

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  ♂   Feb 24, 2012, 05:17pm  #

You seemed to have ignored specific information in my post just above your generalized reply. I'm sure you can explain how oil is found in areas that have had no fossil matter such as the Archeozoic rock formations (among others). How about the many capped wells that miraculously regenerated oil when they were thought dry? Many scientists are now questioning the alleged fossil fuel origins of oil and they include international scientists from Russia, Sweden, and Canada among others.

JonnyM:
no doubt you can find a flat-earther,

Perhaps todays flat-earthers are the ones who believe in fossil fuels and dare not venture into "politically incorrect" territory? After all, scare tactics are the prime movers of invested parties and like the global warming frauds, will be found to be wrong.
If you google or yahoo this, you might be surprised at how many scientists are speaking up on this subject. Of course the oil companies don't want to hear it. Surprisingly, in this area, you are on their side.lol

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  ♂   Feb 24, 2012, 05:40pm  #

Not surprisingly, especially. Since that's the field I work in. Dealing with facts, not pseudoscience from Russia about miracles!

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  ♂   Feb 24, 2012, 05:55pm  #

JonnyM:
Since that's the field I work in.


You pull out that trump card pretty late!

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  ♂  :-( Feb 24, 2012, 07:02pm  #

There are a couple of stupid posts in here by Europeans. I'm just glad most of you can't vote.

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  ♂   Feb 24, 2012, 10:15pm  #

JonnyM:
hat's the field I work in. Dealing with facts, not pseudoscience from Russia about miracles!

In that case perhaps you can explain how we get oil from dry wells and oil from rock deposits which have always been void of fossil matter. Also, how can fossil-created oil be found 20-30,000 feet below the surface? Were ancient giant ground hogs dwelling there? .....or trees.....? What created the oil at those depths?




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  ♂   Feb 25, 2012, 03:54pm  #

ZIMMY:
In that case perhaps you can explain how we get oil from dry wells and oil from rock deposits which have always been void of fossil matter

We don't. Most crude and natural gas comes from decomposed small marine life.
ZIMMY:
Also, how can fossil-created oil be found 20-30,000 feet below the surface? Were ancient giant ground hogs dwelling there? .....or trees.....? What created the oil at those depths?

See above.

Unless you think the magic pixie created it to provide future energy!

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  ♂   Feb 25, 2012, 04:03pm  #

rozumiemnic:
ZIMMY:
Gas prices in the U.S. have doubled since January 20, 2009,

they're still a hell of alot cheaper than anywhere else on the planet, afaik, why do AMericans seem to think they have a a God given right to super cheap oil? Or is it my imagination?


Very simple. America along with Canada have large deposits of oil.There would be no need to import from anywhere else.. But due to greed, corruption, and politics these oil supplies are being denied to the American public. A lot of our oil is being shipped to China.

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  ♂   Feb 25, 2012, 05:02pm  #

JonnyM:
Most crude and natural gas comes from decomposed small marine life.

You'd need several thousands earths to create all that oil from "small marine life". It doesn't add up. There is just way too much of it. We use immense amounts of oil to energize almost everything we do. We use it in manufacturing, in machines, transportation and even lubing up your dry hair. Only water is more important.

JonnyM:
See above.Unless you think the magic pixie created it to provide future energy!

So "small marine life" crushed under heat and pressure created the oceans of oil 30,000 feet underground? Sorry, but no dice. Besides, what was marine life doing so far underground? Furthermore, are you aware of how much decomposed marine life is necessary to create just one coffee cup of oil?

As to pixie dust, it would seem that given the factors mentioned above, it is you who believes in magic. Our oil comes from magma deep in the earth and fissures bring it up, sometimes all the way to the surface. That's why previously dry wells have been resupplied and that's why oil has been found in ancient rock formations which have no history of living creatures including vegetation ever residing there.

One philosophical point; All of us are sometimes shocked to find that what we held as an obvious lifelong truth - really isn't . We've all experienced this. Understanding that oil is abiotic and not decomposed living matter will set you free.


nunczka:
America along with Canada have large deposits of oil.There would be no need to import from anywhere else

Obama is penalizing and paralyzing the U.S. economy. Obamanomics is a leftist driven agenda based on a naive philosophy that BigGovernment knows what's best for us. Global warming is another such fraud. In the 70's it was "Global Cooling" and when that didn't wash, the switch was made to "Global Warming". Now, these same invested parties want to call it "Global Change". I wish people knew their history.

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  ♂   Feb 25, 2012, 05:07pm  #

ZIMMY:
You'd need several thousands earths to create all that oil from "small marine life". It doesn't add up

We have only one - and it has been around for a very long time!
ZIMMY:
Our oil comes from magma deep in the earth and fissures bring it up

No it doesn't! But, if you're really convinced, perhaps you can explain how.
nunczka:
There would be no need to import from anywhere else.. But due to greed, corruption, and politics these oil supplies are being denied to the American public. A lot of our oil is being shipped to China.

Do you know what would happen if the US stopped exporting?

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  ♂   Feb 25, 2012, 05:18pm  #

JonnyM:
nunczka:
There would be no need to import from anywhere else.. But due to greed, corruption, and politics these oil supplies are being denied to the American public. A lot of our oil is being shipped to China.

Do you know what would happen if the US stopped exporting?


YES. Oil would be a lot cheaper for Americans,and we would not be involved in the Middle East and their stinking oil.Oil shipped to China could be used against the US ,the same as scrap iron sent to Japan prior to WW2,was sent back in the form of bombs,and other war material.

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  ♂   Feb 25, 2012, 05:19pm  #

nunczka:
YES. Oil would be a lot cheaper for American

Can you see any other potential problems that might arise from reducing exports?

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  ♂   Feb 25, 2012, 05:38pm  #

JonnyM:
nunczka:
YES. Oil would be a lot cheaper for American

Can you see any other potential problems that might arise from reducing exports?


OH! I am sure that there would be some problems.. But nothing that the US could not overcome.
Ask yourself this question. Where Is China getting all of its military secrets from.? They are stealing it from the US. Then we have an Idiot for a president who is cutting our war heads to a bare minimum,while China and Russia keep theirs. In my opinion The US and Canada could tell the rest of the world to go to hell. We have oil, Gas, the greatest bread basket in the world.




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