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James Revan
  Feb 1, 08, 14:18  #1

±¼ê¶æ³óñ¿

I dare ya :P


(just a stupid thing that will be deleted anyway)

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paczka
  Feb 1, 08, 16:02  #2

Is it a real word or just a random string? :-0

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osiol
  Feb 1, 08, 16:06  #3

Looks too easy. Not enough consonant clusters, but nice usage of all the symbols.

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RJ_cdn
  Feb 1, 08, 16:09  #4

James Revan wrote:
The only polish word a foreigner won't ever say correctly

I am pretty sure that you can't say it either.

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Krzysztof
  Feb 1, 08, 17:10  #5

James Revan wrote:
±¼ê¶æ³óñ¿

James Revan wrote:
just a stupid thing

I have to agree on the last part :)

1/ no words in Polish begin with "±" (neither with "ê" or "ñ")
2/ "¼ê" - that's totally impossible, before vowels "¼" becomes "zi"
3/ I don't recall any words that would have the sequence of "æ³", or "ñ¿"

but keep trying :)

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osiol
  Feb 1, 08, 17:14  #6

¿ó³±¶æêñ¼?

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James Revan
  Feb 1, 08, 17:25  #7

ñ³ó¿±¶æê

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osiol
  Feb 1, 08, 17:26  #8

James Revan wrote:
ñ³

I avoided that - it somehow just didn't look right.

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plk123
  Feb 1, 08, 17:35  #9

paczka wrote:
a random string?
it is that

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Krzysztof
Edited by: Krzysztof  Feb 1, 08, 17:42  #10

I know one Polish word with only "special" letters, (in Nominative), and it's

"¿ó³æ" [bile/gall], but of course it's not that bad to pronounce.

but words that are phonetically challenging don't have to include too many Polish letters, it's the sounds order untypical to other languages that makes them hard to say. Most Poles (native speakers) can't pronounce correctly "jab³ko" [apple] - we rather say it as "japko", or "g³upi" [stupid/dumb] - in a relaxed speech it sounds like "gupi"

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osiol
  Feb 1, 08, 17:56  #11

I find the '³u' in 's³ucham' a bit tricky. It just comes out as 'sucham'.

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El Gato
  Feb 1, 08, 17:58  #12

osiol wrote:
s³ucham


listening to

or

searching for

???

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hancock
  Feb 1, 08, 19:23  #13

its "listening to"

£ is a very soft L with the tounge behind the teeth and a a slight vibration behind the throat.

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El Gato
  Feb 1, 08, 19:30  #14

hancock wrote:
its "listening to"

£ is a very soft L with the tounge behind the teeth and a a slight vibration behind the throat.


OMG. Can't believe I even asked that question. I didn't notice the little cross in the "l" so I though he mis-spelled the word...

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z_darius
Edited by: z_darius  Feb 1, 08, 21:55  #15

osiol wrote:
James Revan wrote:
ñ³

I avoided that - it somehow just didn't look right.

You did well here.
Each language allows some consonnat clusters while others are not allowed. Neither English nor Polish are exceptions in this regard.

For instance in: ñ³ó¿±¶æê (above) the ñ³ is not possible in Polish.
Additionally, some consonant/vowels combinations (such as "æê") do not occur in Polish.

Bottom line, the challenge of the original post is not an exercise in the Polish pronounciation.

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Davey
  Feb 1, 08, 23:58  #16

hancock wrote:
£ is a very soft L with the tounge behind the teeth and a a slight vibration behind the throat.


I'll stick to the English 'w' on that one....

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kioko
  Feb 2, 08, 03:33  #17

What about "chrz±szcz" ? :P

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James Revan
  Feb 2, 08, 04:36  #18

chrz±szcz szczy w pszczynie - a little harder then the original "chrz±szcz brzmi w trzcinie"

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kioko
  Feb 2, 08, 04:47  #19


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lonely
  Feb 2, 08, 05:05  #20

haha this is a funny thread

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Bartolome
  Feb 2, 08, 06:32  #21

James Revan wrote:
chrz±szcz szczy w pszczynie

Try something better:
Chrz±szcz pszczo³ê w trzcinie pieprzy :)

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osiol
  Feb 2, 08, 07:40  #22

Are there any consonant clusters in English that Polish speakers have difficulty with?
I ask that assuming the answer to be found in words like 'Twelfths'.

There may be other languages that would pose a Pole a problem or two.
In Georgian, allegedly, there can be as many as 6 consonants in a row without a single vowel sound to break it up and make it any easier.

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starchild
Edited by: starchild  Feb 2, 08, 07:55  #23

I don't want to speak for all Polish speakers, but I know at least one who can't say crisps. Always comes out as crips! Actually, comes out as Lays because he's sick of me saying crisps at him!


Edit:
Word with five consonants in a row - angsts.
I've got loads of these, up to and beyond eighthly!

Oh and just for Osiol:
In Georgian, GVPRTSKVNI (you peel us) is a one-syllable word [Benjamin Schak].

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Bushman
  Feb 2, 08, 08:32  #24

My Fiancée (who's polish) couldn't say it... ROTFLOL!! And she gives me hassles because i'm not learning polish quickly enough... wish it was a real word though :-p

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osiol
  Feb 2, 08, 08:37  #25

starchild wrote:
In Georgian, GVPRTSKVNI (you peel us) is a one-syllable word

I don't suppose this word is used all that often.
Must look up some facts about popular pastimes in Georgia.

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Seanus
  Feb 2, 08, 09:29  #26

Szczur is hard to get right. Even ptak isn't as easy as it seems. My girlfriend says I say 'pitak' rather than a merged 'pt' sound. I don't agree but she's the expert on this one so I acquiesce here

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Krzysztof
  Feb 2, 08, 14:55  #27

mg³a [fog] is quite difficult for many foreign speakers :)

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Wyspianska
  Feb 2, 08, 14:57  #28

boaah. For me it's enough when foreigner can say my name and maybe:
jeste¶ ostra
hehe :P

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Davey
  Feb 2, 08, 14:57  #29

³zy is hard for some people too

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paczka
  Feb 2, 08, 18:22  #30

£ódz lol

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