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Puzzler
  Sep 23, 07, 22:38  #91

Eurola, have you encountered any 'antisemitism' in Radio Maryja programs (whatever the word 'antisemitism' should mean)? What the hell this Klug and company are yapping about? Aren't they a bunch of slanderous lunatics? And how about their own anti-Polonism and anti-Christian hatred?

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Michal
  Sep 24, 07, 07:29  #92

There is also a very religious television channel that we pick up in England via our dish next to TV Polnia but we take no notice of such channels-very old fashioned, stuffy and boring!

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Ranj
  Sep 24, 07, 07:52  #93

Quoting: Puzzler
Puzzler

Just out of curiousity, do you listen to Radio Maryja on a regular basis?


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Puzzler
  Sep 24, 07, 11:18  #94

Quoting: Ranj
Just out of curiousity, do you listen to Radio Maryja on a regular basis?


- I do, as I do with countless other media.

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Eurola
  Sep 24, 07, 21:28  #95

Quoting: Puzzler
you encountered any 'antisemitism' in Radio Maryja programs


I did not hear anything to this effect even from my polish friends who go to church regularly, most do not like to listen to them at all. Frankly, I don't personally know anybody who does...I don't believe they spread any antisemitic lies however. I'd rather believe that they are in business to spread the word of God.
I just hear the radio is extremely conservative, and does not appeal to people who live in the real, everyday world.

You've got me curious. I think, I'll tune in sometimes... :-)


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Puzzler
  Sep 24, 07, 22:10  #96

re: I just hear the radio is extremely conservative, and does not appeal to people who live in the real, everyday world

- The message is basically conservative, but I wouldn't say it's extreme in any way. Also, in spite of being authentically very religous, I think they are actually down-to-earth. And they are definitely very patriotic. All the qualities are fine with me.

What is actually 'antisemitism'? I mean in specific terms. I have tried to find out and found so many contradictory things labelled as 'antisemitic,' that I think the term is basically meaningless. Or rather it's just a synonym of the general expression: 'the worst evil.' But why would 'antisemitism' be the worst evil?

Just pondering.
:)

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Puzzler
  Sep 24, 07, 22:17  #97

PS. Eurola. - But Radio Maryja and its listeners are very critical of the neo-commie, or rather commiefascist media in Poland (Michnik, Walter, Krol and similar compulsively lying trash), which is truly admirable, and which seems to be the main reason for the smear campaign against Radio Maryja throughout Europe. You know, the commiefascist media psychopaths are one big mafia family....

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Gary Busey
  Sep 24, 07, 23:54  #98

Quoting: Puzzler
What is actually 'antisemitism'?


An American journalist named Joe Sobran once had this to say: "An 'antisemite' used to be someone who didn't like Jews. Now, it's someone the Jews don't like!"

He lost his job soon after... ;)

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Puzzler
  Sep 25, 07, 02:22  #99

Gary, it seems even crazier than that. Even the 'Shoah' movie hero, Jan Karski, is considered 'antisemitic' (by the way, the film is false and Polonophobic). Even Lech Walesa was labelled as antisemitic by one of their rags.
:)

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Eurola
  Sep 26, 07, 21:52  #100

Quoting: Puzzler
Radio Maryja and its listeners are very critical of the neo-commie, or rather commie fascist media in Poland

There must be quite a few listeners in Chicago. There was a big Polish event in Millennium Park in Chicago last night. There were some polish artists, singers, Lech Kaczynski, Chicago mayor R. Daily...and others. I could not go (committed to work), but they were close to 10000 people. When I listened to the radio on my lunch today, lots of callers "complained" there was no holly mass before the event. Some said, there would be more people if Rydzik was the celebrity instead of Lech Kaczynski. I found it pretty sad. There are plenty of ethnic event in Chicago, Irish, Italian, Mexican, you name it...they don't seem to need the presence of church to consider it a successful event... Why do we? Just wondering...


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Puzzler
Edited by: Puzzler  Sep 27, 07, 02:12  #101

Quoting: Eurola
Why do we? Just wondering...


- And why not, Eurola? Why should we be exactly the same as the uniform multiculti mob? Because there's pressure on us to be just like them, not to be ourselves, and ridiculing and punishing us when we don't tow the line? It's just the same in the EU - the Poles aren't supposed to be themselves. All the nations can be who they are, behave as they please, but not us.

Do you remember the song by Perfect: 'Chcemy byc soba' (We Want to be Ourselves)?
:)

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Eurola
  Sep 27, 07, 22:34  #102

Unfortunately, I don't know this song, but I Googled... :)

teledyski80.info/html/perfect-chcemy-byc-soba.php

It sounds like early 80s song... Pretty patriotic crowd. I like the song too.

Quoting: Puzzler
All the nations can be who they are


Ahem, I don't know about that, I think all countries changed a lot, the whole world changed. Poland still tries to hold on to good, old values and it stirs up some emotions, but in order to keep moving ahead, and to be a team player, wise decisions should be made by the government. I tend to like Lech K. I often hear fragments of his speeches, or phrases on the polish radio station. They are very patriotic. I hope, he will stand his ground where it needs to be, and gives in when it good for the future of the country...
"warto byc Polakiem, warto aby polska trwala..." (it's worthed to be a Pole, it's worthed for Poland to last...")


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1st generation [Guest]
  Sep 28, 07, 16:42  #103

Polska, wake up!!

Secular Europe and liberals in my country (US) want to make you secular like they are. Please keep your religion and culture and don't succumb to the anti-God, pro-abortion Europe. If Radio Marija does this, it is good for me. The liblerals are ruining our country and Hillary Clinton is one of the big ones. Please don't think its cool to kill babies, have loose morals, and do whatever you think is "cool."

There is a huge resurgence of Christianity in the US. We need to fight the Islamic forces who hate Christianity.

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Gary Busey
  Sep 28, 07, 17:45  #104

You're pretty much right on, 1st generation. There are many people like you and I who recognize this, and if we can get the word out, we can help Poland to keep its life-affirming and pro-family culture. I don't want Poland to become the cultural cesspool that the US and much of Western Europe have become, either. Somewhere in the West there must remain at least a few sane countries that hold out against the liberal-socialist disease, and where NORMAL people can live safe and productive lives.

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misiek [Guest]
  Sep 28, 07, 17:56  #105

In terms of antisemitism etc .... Every reason is good to make a money and power.
Its so simple as far as jews are considered.

When milions of them were dying in Europe, Rockefeller and other big sharks smoked huge cubanian cigars and counted new incomes.. how much now, how much from 'Ost Juden' reimbursements in the future..

Regards

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James123 [Guest]
  Sep 28, 07, 17:59  #106

Quoting: Gary Busey
You're pretty much right on, 1st generation. There are many people like you and I who recognize this, and if we can get the word out, we can help Poland to keep its life-affirming and pro-family culture. I don't want Poland to become the cultural cesspool that the US and much of Western Europe have become, either. Somewhere in the West there must remain at least a few sane countries that hold out against the liberal-socialist disease, and where NORMAL people can live safe and productive lives.

Bet you a $1000 that I can guess what you do!

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James123 [Guest]
  Sep 28, 07, 18:14  #107

Quoting: James123
Bet you a $1000 that I can guess what you do!

Come on Gary!

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Puzzler
Edited by: Puzzler  Sep 28, 07, 18:16  #108

re: the US and much of Western Europe have become, either. Somewhere in the West

- Hmmm, forgive me, Gary, you seem to kind of obsessively group 'the US' with 'Western Europe' and 'the West' (whatever the last two terms should mean) as a kind of one uniform bloc that is entirely different from, not to say opposed to, ' the East,' 'Eastern Europe,' 'Poland.'

In reality, those days when 'the US' had lots of respect and significance in and for Europe, including Britain, are long over. Truly, it appears the US has some considerable political ties with Britain alone. However, from my own conversations with the British, it seems that very many of them are not enthusiastic about the ties, about the US, whom they regard as an embarassing bully-state, and also about the Americans and the American mentality.

You seem to be living in a totally nostalgic world (the good ol' Cold War days), a world that is no longer, mate.

Writing this, I suspect I'll offend you for life, but, what the hell, truth and honesty are most important to me.
:)
PS. I like the self-complacent manner in which you (and many other Americans) say 'critical' things about America.... It's like you guys are saying: 'Oh yes, we're a mess, we've done this and that wrong,'etc., while thinking to themselves: 'But we don't really give damn about it, 'cos we're the greatest!' ;)

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Puzzler
  Sep 28, 07, 19:19  #109

PS, Gary. - You should come to live in Poland. You seem to like the country... or is it another case of the Amercan lip service? ;)

In any case, I think you'll feel good there.

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truhlei
  Sep 28, 07, 19:23  #110

Puzzler,

Visit also Russian-Lithuanian paradoxis and There are no Muslims in Poland topics

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Gary Busey
  Sep 28, 07, 21:16  #111

Quoting: James123
Bet you a $1000 that I can guess what you do!


Haha--no bet, I don't have that kind of money to throw around! But take a stab at it anyway--I'm curious what you think.

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Gary Busey
  Sep 28, 07, 21:35  #112

Quoting: Puzzler
Writing this, I suspect I'll offend you for life, but, what the hell, truth and honesty are most important to me.


You've never offended me, Puzzler. We think alike on a lot of issues, and I tend to agree with most of your posts. In any case, I have no problem with honest criticism and even hard words, as long as the discussion is rational and polite. (And it has been with you.)

As far as your invitation to come to Poland, I intend to--and who knows(?)--I might end up staying...

Finally, regarding the 'West' terminology, I'll discuss my reasons for it later--I don't quite have enough time at the moment, but I'll be back on the thread later.

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Puzzler
  Sep 29, 07, 02:11  #113

Right on, Gary. Yes, we agree on lots of issues. You and people like you should come to where your real roots are - Europe, including Poland (one of the strangest and most energising places there).

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randompal
  Oct 3, 07, 09:25  #114

Quoting: anglicy
does anyone have any opinions about what this station is really about ?


Randompal is armed with both facts and opinions.

Fact: Father Rydzyk is known as "Father Director" and he is a media magnate. His empire consists of a radio station with a rather broad reach, a newspaper, and he also runs a college. His operations are based in Toruń, Poland. As a businessman he is quite successful, which affords him substantial political clout. He is sometimes criticised for homphobic and anti-semitic remarks.

Opinion: The Father Director is to Poland what Rupert Murdoch is to the rest of the world: an intrusive, meddling right-wing business player. Because he is a Bible thumper he can also be compared to guys like Fallwell in the States. In other words, Bible thumpers on the surface who get busted for pantysniffing and prostitution. Who knows what goes on in his well-guarded palaces and dungeons. He hates the media (unless it is a newspaper he himself controls), and many politicians are either conrolled by him or are afraid of him because of his power. Words that come to mind: tyrant, megalomaniac, creepo.


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randompal
  Oct 3, 07, 09:28  #115

Quoting: James123
where NORMAL people can live safe and productive lives.


Randompal is against squares and nerds telling him or anyone else what normal is and what isn't normal.


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Gary Busey
  Oct 3, 07, 14:13  #116

Quoting: randompal
Randompal is against squares and nerds telling him or anyone else what normal is and what isn't normal.


Randompal

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randompal
  Oct 3, 07, 14:36  #117

Randompal isn't interested in stealing or borrowing Gary's style, Randompal has his own.


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TheDude
Edited by: TheDude  Oct 3, 07, 15:35  #118

Quoting: randompal
stealing or borrowing Gary's style, Randompal has his own

Right. TheDudes style has been stolen :) Dude thinks random needs to put his/her skirt back on.

TheDude says Radio Maryja does NOT rock


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WalecPL
  Oct 19, 07, 18:11  #119

I didn't read whole topic but I'm sure and convinced that Radio Maryja SUX and is the worst station in PL :-)

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urszula
  Oct 19, 07, 18:19  #120

Overrated. No funky music. Boring.


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