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 Oct 13, 11, 08:50    #1
I figure I will take some flack for my post, as I saw responses to other threads similiar to mine here. On one hand I want to say bring it on ;) But on the other hand I realize online insults usually come from two types of people; either those unhappy with their own lives or those who feel mighty and high by insulting others in the most coward way possible; in front of a computer screen. Since insults on a computer screen do not offend me or make me blink twice, I wonīt respond to them. I do hope though most have the decency to just let it go if you find anything in my thread that is weird in your eyes.
But Iīm very open to people asking me why this or why that as we all have our reasons for things we do, say or want.

Iīm from the USA but have lived in Austria since 1992. Iīm friendly, a bit shy at first but very talkative after a while. I am moving to a smaller city later this year in Austria, about 1200 meters high, as I want to get away from the city life.

What I am looking for is not easy to find, hence my online searching; Iīd like to meet someone who would like to live in a very small city with roughly 1000- 2000 people. Someone who wants to leave the city life. You should be friendly, relaxed, honest, loyal and true. You should like animals (as I have several) and be an optimistic person. You must enjoy the simpler things in life; nature, laughter, a relaxed life style. You cannot think money is important in a relationship, because I am not rich and thinking like this will bring us no where. And you must want children one day, as a family is important to me.

My biggest wish will probably make some of you laugh and some of you smack your heads. Yet I am who I am. I would love one day to be able to live in a cottage/cabin up in the mountains in the middle of the forest. Since it is barely possible here in Austria to do this due to laws, I am happy with a small town.

I am 41, divorced since 2002, not a very exciting guy who likes poker, animals, movies, music. I have a great collection of about 2000 dvds so it would probably be slightly dandy if you liked movies as well (if you are more than slightly dandy that may be too dandy for me).

Also it would be really good if you have skype.

Age will also make some of you throw your best insults my way, but like I said above, there are reasons for everything. You can be 20 – 35.

And if anyone else from other countries cares to talk on skype, I have nothing against it, guys or girls. My former career had me talking to clients on skype 5-6 hours a day so I enjoy it.

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 Oct 13, 11, 11:01    #2
Oh boy I almost forgot, 62 kilo, 171 cm and long hair without any receding line (I find either one likes long hair or not so I think I should mention it).

Oh and I miss Taco Bell :)
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 Oct 13, 11, 11:08    #3
Why a Polish girl Mallnitz?
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 Oct 13, 11, 13:11    #4
Hi wedle. Honestly, I have no idea. Itīs extremely difficult to explain. Living in the city I have no chance to meet a girl who likes the small town life. Austrian girls who live in the city either came from the small towns to get away from them or have always been and want to be city girls. Girls who already live in these really small towns would not accept a city guy, especially a foreigner. Not because of racism, but because of tradition (not sure if tradition is the right word, but they expect their men to be town guys, they are just different in every which way, from the clothes they wear to their way of thinking).

I really like girls from any country ie I would not hesitate to date a girl from Thailand, Russia, Canada, wherever, if they already lived in Austria. But I have to exclude some countries due to my concerns with girls doing it just for the visa (although I am only an American citizen, not Austrian citizen, I may stay here forever since I have been here so long. So any girl I married (if it came that far) would also get that visa after x years of being married to me and living here.

So I am kind of stuck with saying it should be a country in the EU. Those people can come to live and work here fairly easily on their own if they wanted to. I know some people from some EU countries still have problems doing that, but it can be done if they got the correct information. Even if they deny it. They just do not know the laws between each Eu country, which differ a bit.

I hate saying I like one type of girl because of their appearance or the way they act or they way they are. Because I try not to stereotype that way as all people are different. I have met polish people who were very friendly, and polish people who were very rude (I was also in Estonia for one year and the same there. It is the same in every country). But what I do like that I see on many Polish girls are little things that are actually irrelevant to many; I like the way they dress; my mom says slutty, my dad says sexy. I say colorful. To me it is a style that I think is nice. I also love their hair cuts. I donīt know why, it is just stylish. I also like their facial features, but I donīt know how to explain that. I tend to think that eastern european girls are attractive because of those things. Attractive is not even the right word, cute is better.

iīm not sure if this is true but I speak to a couple of polish people on skype now who I have known for a while, and they said there are many small towns in Poland and girls from those towns like small towns. There are many small towns in every country, so I guess I should be open to any girl from any EU country that lives in a small town lol

In short though, I find polish girls cute. Iīm not talking about beautiful; average girls can look cute also. Itīs just what one defines as being cute, which has to do with ones taste I suppose.
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 Oct 13, 11, 13:18    #5
oh, boy. There are many dating service portals with Polish women and women from EU, have you tired your luck there?
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 Oct 13, 11, 13:23    #6
mallnitz:
I like the way they dress; my mom says slutty, my dad says sexy. I say colorful


Colorful is the right word.Of course is a distance from the grey world of Oesterreicher.
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 Oct 13, 11, 13:25    #7
A good mate of mine used a dating site and married a Ukrainian girl.

If only he hadn't


RIP Mate xx http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2004869/Barry-Prings-mysteriou s-death-internet-bride-battling-family-1-5m-fortune.html
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Edited by: mallnitz  Oct 13, 11, 14:22    #8
forgot the quote
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 Oct 13, 11, 14:37    #9
@aphrodisiac
I did try a few in September, but all I got were messages from those scammers asking for my email address. Other sites were completely dead.
Any good recommendations?

@southern
Very true, I did not even think about that. They do dress dull.

@mark
Oddly enough I dated a Ukrainian girl last year but it only lasted 2 months. Apart from her wanting to stay in the city, I didnīt like how her and her friends were so fond of posing for pictures of each other (always posing really awkwardly trying to look like models) whenever we got together with them (although I admit, on occassion it was a turn on, it just looked so damn stupid 99% of the time – was just freaky), and her friends enjoyed showing off the new expensive jewerly and bragging about their jobs and how wellt hey earn, and acting so proud of it). All of this was a real turn off.
Sorry about your friend. I see in the article it says her mom said she did not know about his wealth until after he died. I find that odd?
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 Oct 13, 11, 17:05    #10
mallnitz,

Yeah, all lies. He was finally laid to rest last month, 3 1/2 years later. A terrible, terrible time for his family. Hopefully, someone will be brought to Justice.
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 Oct 13, 11, 18:03    #11
tell us more about the way of thinking of small town Austrians, I don't know why but I find it absolutely fascinating. It's so mundane that I think any of us who have experience in our own countries of the small town vs city life can relate to it, yet somehow it's exotic: MORE MORE MORE
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Edited by: mallnitz  Oct 14, 11, 04:02    #12
@mark
I hope so also for his family. There is so much corruption on so many different levels in some of these countries as you know, unfortunately.

@foreigner
lol I bet itīs all pretty much the same. In Austria, I think the people in smaller towns vary depending on which province the town is in. I have not lived in all 9 of the provinces in Austria, only 3 of them. From my understanding, Styria seems to be the most open minded smaller towns. Tirol is the most close-minded. Corinthia (which is the province I want to go to) is also open minded. The reason Tirol is the most close-minded is many of their smaller towns are higher up in the mountains and alps. All businesses in these towns are family owned. People who grow up there simply do not leave. They also have the most traditional values and beautiful towns there.
In Styria the people are friendly (compared to Austrian terms). Many Styrians move to Vienna and to other countries, so families tend to be more open-monded as they all have family living either in other parts of Austria or in other countries.
Corinthia is similiar to Styria (although they are not fond of each other oddly enough. Actually for some reason Corinthians seem to be in all Austrian jokes that Austrians tell. Even in Vienna). The difference with Corinthia and Styria is Styria is lower, Corinthia has a lot more higher mountains in and surrounding it.
Corinthian dialect is weird though, it is one of the provinces which other Austrians have trouble understanding it (also Burgenland has crazy dialect). styrian dialect is to me the most clear, but probably because that is where I learned German. Viennese dialect is just bland to me.
example of Corinthia dialect;
In pretty much every province to say I have four cats youīd say; Ich habe vier katzen. In dialect youīd say I hab vier Katzen. So not so different. In corinthian dialect youīd say I hob vier Kotzen. It may not look very different but youīd have to think twice before realizing what the corinthian just said (kotzen also means to throw up). And thatīs the easiest dialect they have ;) corinthians just have odd things like that, which is why they are the butt of every austrian joke.

I think though in smaller towns in Austria you will experience; more close-minded people, yet more friendly people. Probably more alcoholics (as Austria has a high rate of alcoholism anyhow even in bigger cities). Unfortunately higher suicide rates. Much more nature, mountains, snow. Only very few buses running so youīd need a car, unlike elsewhere in Austria where public transportation is excellent. many of these smaller towns have health spas or relaxation hotels. Also, the political partys which govern the smaller towns typically tend to be unknown small parties no austrian outside of the town ever heard of. Most of the smaller towns are mainly austrians, depending on where but iīd say 92%+ (although in some smaller towns, especially in Corinthia, there are mostly other european cultures living there - different reasons but would take too long to explain the history-).

What I was going for was a small town with the following requirements; must have a main train station, must have buses running until at least 6 pm (even one every 2 hours is fine), must be at least 800 meters high, must have nature ie I am tired of seeing city rats and pigeons only lol, and must have apartments available (which is not easy, some of the towns had none. The town I selected has only 9 free simply because there are not many there, and those 9 were in three different buildings. In fact, 6 were in one building that only has 12 apartments for rent.

What I did was made a list of every town at least 500 meters high in Tirol and Corinthia that had a main train station. There were about 55. Then I sent an email to every town hall in these towns and asked for a bus schedule, where I can find apartments, etc. I eventually had to remove about 35 from my list due to them either not having buses or not having any apartments.

The winner was, as my name states, this one; (I hope this link works)
http://www.google.at/imgres?q=mallnitz&num=10&um=1&hl=de&client=firefo x-a&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&channel=np&biw=1366&bih=664&tbm=isch&t bnid=MRq_VbOFDBQw3M:&imgrefurl=http://presse.mallnitz.at/main.php%3Fg2 _view%3Dslideshow.Slideshow%26g2_itemId%3D1115&docid=v_Bd5ZZxwiq3TM&im gurl=http://presse.mallnitz.at/d/1116-1/Seebachtal%252BMallnitz%252B-% 252BBlick%252Bins%252BSeebachtal2_copyright%252BPeter%252BAngermann_.j pg&w=600&h=450&ei=B5aXTs_mEqWL4gSO56WFBA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=914&vpy=18 4&dur=7209&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=168&ty=108&sig=105916718597323481131&s qi=2&page=1&tbnh=131&tbnw=175&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0

The only problem right now I have with it is the town is in a long valley. The bus station is on one side and the only food store is on the exact opposite side, about 2 kilometers from each other). One of the apartments i like is 2 minutes walking to the train station, and one is 2 minuites walking from the food store. A bis drives through only 4x a day. Forget riding a bike in winter, too cold and too much snow. So i am actually debating on whether to move now and take a taxi when I have to be somewhere, or wait until the spring so i can have 6 months to take the austrian drivers license (to explain this, I never needed a car in Austria as even when I lived in Styria the town had 20000 people and public transportation was excellent. In Vienna a car is pointless. A drivers license test cost about $2000. So there was never a need to waste that much money for nothing).
Angel-eyes  Oct 14, 11, 04:53    #13
i don't think you will be needing a big stick to fend off the girls with your add. Best of luck anyway.
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 Oct 14, 11, 05:09    #14
mallnitz:
Oh and I miss Taco Bell :)


You must really be homesick if you miss Taco Hell. I'll will eat an Enchirito in your honor :)

A sincere thanks PF, for putting up with me FIVE terrific years, muah!
Davidson613  Oct 14, 11, 06:54    #15
beckski:
You must really be homesick if you miss Taco Hell. I'll will eat an Enchirito in your honor :)


Taco Bell is great. I don't know what you're talking about.
cornel  Oct 14, 11, 07:25    #16
Women are more sociable than men and that's why they gravitate to cities. Women have only lived in remote areas because they have to or had to. If they have a choice they'll choose civilization. You want a lady? Go to town and get to know some women on a friendly basis, the rest will take care of itself.
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 Oct 14, 11, 08:00    #17
mallnitz:
Any good recommendations?

unfortunately no:(. I heard that some people use them. The truth about website is that it might take a long time to select anybody due to the distance.
mallnitz:
wait until the spring so i can have 6 months to take the austrian drivers license (to explain this, I never needed a car in Austria as even when I lived in Styria the town had 20000 people and public transportation was excellent. In Vienna a car is pointless. A drivers license test cost about $2000. So there was never a need to waste that much money for nothing).

maybe it would be a good idea to take the driving licence if you are planning to stay in Austria. Wouldn't having a car increase the chance to be less dependant public transport in your search for a girlfriend? I would give it a though if I were you.

Also, not a criticism, but rather an observation. You seem to have many detailed already planned and your description is almost emotionless. Women don't want to date Cybors;). You seem to have everything preplanned to a detail and all you need is a girlfriend in your life, yet I don't see a room there, unless she is exactly the person you are looking for. That is not very flexible of you:).
cornel:
Go to town and get to know some women on a friendly basis, the rest will take care of itself.

I agree with that. Have fun socializing first.
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 Oct 14, 11, 08:08    #18
@angeleyes
I am pretty confident I wonīt. But I donīt want to fend off many girls, just want to meet 1 ;)
I think though online it is a bit more of a chance.
I donīt want to come off as this guy who meets ladies left and right, online and offline, because no guy does this. So when I say the following, I am honestly not lying.
As I explained above my former career had me online many hours talking to clients on skype. 2 months ago the company I worked for moved to Malta and I opted not to go (I worked from home as self-employed for this company since 2002). So i went to a site and spoke with a few girls, added 2 to skype which I still talk to on occassion. One is from Thailand and one is from Poland. Both of them are willing to move to such a small city. But unfortunately I donīt think we have enough in common and I donīt do it just to do it. The girl from Poland is very nice, and she is from a small town there.
So I do think eventually I connect with someone.

@beckski and davidson
The first thing I do when I visit family back home (hasnīt been 11 years though) is rent a car at the airport, go find a hotel room, then run downstairs and ask the receptionist where is the nearest taco bell. Did that in 1994, 1996, and 1999.
No corn taco shells here anywhere near me. Will find soft taco shells but donīt know how to make the sauce.
At least I can get my oreos here lol just pay too much for 16 silly cookies; almost $5.

@cornel
I tend to disagree that women gravitate more to bigger cities than men do. Maybe it depends on the country, but here there are many small towns. And women born there love them (the majority - you will seldom find a small town girl living in a bigger austrian city. they do not leave it).
If you mean less city girls move to remote towns than city guys, Iīd also have to disagree. Simply because city guys also do not move to remote towns.

Please donīt misunderstand my post. I am not desperate and very happy with my life and do not see it as either i find a girl or i am so lonely, because this is not the case. I donīt just want a lady, I have been together with ladies before my marriage and after my marriage, so that feat has been accomplished. I want a girl who wants to move to a small remote town and experience it with her, because that is much more fun than experiencing something like this alone. So itīs just not so simple to go into town and meet a lady. Finding that type of lady in the city is like finding a needle in haystack.
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Edited by: mallnitz  Oct 14, 11, 08:26    #19
@aphrodisiac
The car will not help me one bit in meeting girls, definitely not in th city.
Also, you have to realize even the Vienna streets are small. I live right on the outside of the inner city. Walking takes about 20 minutes. Drive 35 minutes. Tram 10 minutes roughly. The design of vienna makes everything faster to get to via public transportation. Plus try parking in the city, expensive and not a chance to park anywhere near where you need to go to.
So if me and my friends go out we get almost anywhere faster with public transportation than with a car.
I also think being in subways and trolleys, you see and can talk with many more people than being in a car.
You are right, I do have all of the things planned out, but only because the whole move is not easy and I have been looking for a town to choose from since 2 months. It is also hard to type everything than just telling someone about it.
And youīre also right, I am not being flexible ;) because I would like to meet that type of person. Maybe that is wrong, but I just want to meet the type of person that likes small towns. I donīt know how else to say it.
I think it seems like I am being emotionless because I am typing and not talking directly with you or the others. But you may be right, girls see what I type and say nope.
And please please please I donīt need a girlfriend, but i just mean it would be nice to experience this with another person. No one wants to be alone, but I also will not date just any girl just to have one. Not good for me or her.
I am going to do this alone or with a girl. But 2 is more fun than 1.

The thing that is frustratiing is whenever my friends and I go out we do socialize plenty. But if I mention moving to a small town, you see the look in the girls eyes like "weirdo" lol Itīs just because these are city girls. And I understand them. My ways of thinking and what i want are weird to them.

I also do realize that if I moved alone to a small town, yes, eventually I would meet a girl there. I am just trying online also because I find meeting girls from other countries fun.
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 Oct 14, 11, 09:21    #20
I also wanted to ask all of you where you are from?
I think its pretty cool no one bashed me. I was expecting it lol Thanks ;)

Also, if any of you play online poker, that was my former job. I was an affiliate manager at an online room (did not accept US players so if any federal agents are reading this, donīt bother me haha) and i know a few other affiliate managers and can always get a few bucks for friends ;) so if you play, let me know.

Also, any of you movie fans?
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Edited by: Foreigner4  Oct 14, 11, 22:08    #21
Positively fascinating! I am going to ask you more questions about life in Austria, I've been there a couple times. One of my grandfathers spoke an old burgenland dialect.
Um from the perspective of someone who's not a "natural" driver but of one who has driven in A LOT of super crappy super dangerous winter conditions, take the driver's test asap. It's better to deal with the winter with some instruction. If you're worried about how you'll feel, don't worry, those feelings will pass.

Seriously though, ACE response. I'm gonna read it again!

all that being said, I think you're chances are better with an austrian woman, I mean, there's just such a good chance you'll run into an opportunist when it comes to Slavic women. The local broads are gonna deny it but you're a big boy I suppose and know what to look for. I'll keep my eyes and ears open though. If it isn't posted already, what age range?
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 Oct 15, 11, 01:22    #22
Foreigner4:
Positively fascinating! I am going to ask you more questions about life in Austria, I've been there a couple times. One of my grandfathers spoke an old burgenland dialect.
Um from the perspective of someone who's not a "natural" driver but of one who has driven in A LOT of super crappy super dangerous winter conditions, take the driver's test asap. It's better to deal with the winter with some instruction. If you're worried about how you'll feel, don't worry, those feelings will pass.

Seriously though, ACE response. I'm gonna read it again!

all that being said, I think you're chances are better with an austrian woman, I mean, there's just such a good chance you'll run into an opportunist when it comes to Slavic women. The local broads are gonna deny it but you're a big boy I suppose and know what to look for. I'll keep my eyes and ears open though. If it isn't posted already, what age range?



Sure, any time ;) Funny story about Burgenland. One of my first days in Austria back in 1992 I didnīt know but maybe 5 words in German. I was at my exs parents with her and they were watching the news and laughing as some person being interviewed spoke. I looked at the screen and saw subtitles. I asked my ex what language is that guy speaking and she said he is a farmer from Burgenland. I then thought darn it I am in trouble if Austrians donīt even understand each other.

Where in Austria were you? I am guessing Vienna was one spot.

I am sure I will get some advice before driving in their storms. I know itīs not comparable but I lived while driving in New Jersey, New York and Connecticut during winter when I was younger, and I drove in the 20000 city in Styria I was living at before (the inlaws car without a license but insured because if you get caught its only a $50 fine, and the police in these sized towns will let you just go) so i have a little experience with it here. But Iīll definitely get advice and actually that is one reason I want to take my test after I move; they will be better prepared to give me advice about winter driving there then I will get in Vienna as we donīt get too much snow

I think youīre also right about chances being better with an Austrian, even if I meet one in the town I move to.

Age is important to me because I want someone who wants a family. I hate saying an age (even though I did above) because then I look like the guy who is looking for a younger girl just to make myself feel better. So if I say 20 - 35 it does not mean I must have a 20 year old as I realize that kind of relationship seldom last. But like most guys I would not say no to a 25 year old. And also not to a 35 year old. So any age I suppose, if she would like children ;)
(I have also been asked why do you not have any children at your age, but you want children; answer is I was married to my ex for 12 years and she did not want children. this is one of reasons why we agreed to split up). I was in a relationship with a girl from Austria for 2 year in 2005-2007 who wanted kids and even liked the idea of moving to a smaller town. But I just didnīt have those kind of feelings for her. The girl I dated from ukraine who lives in Vienna in 2010 was not for me, was only with her a short time. 2004 I was with an austrian but also a fairly short time. 2008 - 2010 I really worked a lot and was on my break from relationships I suppose lol (also 2002-2003 first two years after divorce I stayed away from any relationships).
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 Oct 15, 11, 05:10    #23
mallnitz
mallnitz:
I also wanted to ask all of you where you are from?

Most of our profiles provide that info.

mallnitz:
I think its pretty cool no one bashed me. I was expecting it lol Thanks ;)

We can still change our responses if you'd like us to!

A sincere thanks PF, for putting up with me FIVE terrific years, muah!
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 Oct 15, 11, 05:11    #24
mallnitz:
American in Vienna looking for a polish girl


why not Austrian? It would be much easier to find in Vienna.
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 Oct 15, 11, 08:20    #25
@becksi
Thanks and lol ;)

@berlin
Like I said above, I have no problem with an Austrian but where I live now the city girls do not want to live in remote areas; Vienna girls are not itching to move to a small town. If I move to the town alone, of course it would even be easier, but until I do that I wanted to have fun and try onlin as well.
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 Oct 15, 11, 09:02    #26
hmmm, y'know I think you should go with a professional dating service. The reason being is that in order to make a connection with someone, you want as complete a first impression as you can give and receive- pictures really matter in that regard. Then again, you seem to have much more experience with the ladies than I do so maybe you're taking the road less traveled for a reason. You seem like a good guy and you seem like you know what you want but c'mon in this day and age any girl between 20-26 is not what you're looking for man, that's just asking for trouble down the road....

Tell me more about Austrians. Do you have any pet peeves regarding them? What surprised you about them? Are they really tight knit in small towns? How do they spend their leisure time in small towns and cities? Is it just Vienna or do all Austrian women have really nice derrières?

E.g. What I have noticed here is: Poles seem to have an innate disdain for order. If there is a system set up, they seem to do their darndest to sabotage that system or "work around" it. That goes for everything from recycling, to driving, to queuing, to parking, to getting on and off buses, elevators, to walking on pavement/sidewalks, etc...it's quite remarkable really.
They are also born competitors, they can't not compete. This runs through all aspects of society from what I have seen: sports (even if it's just practice); drinking to driving; conversation (oh you have a witty remark, well I have an even wittier one, oh you thought you had a wittier one, well get a load of this...); cooking; random knowledge; religion/piety - these people need to "one up" whoever they have identified as their nemesis but that MAINLY applies to when they don't know the other person well.

Your turn please:)

I don't know much about n.j. driving but I know scott stevens is a sonofabithc...the advice I could offer a person for winter (which I know you are free to throw away) is to slow down, i.e. slow down one's acceleration, deceleration, and going in/coming out of turns (completely lost on this bunch here). A person just needs to be aware of what's happening and take a heads up approach. This comes from many years of driving in cities (and countryside) with 6 months of freezing temperatures and snow cover, in those environments the asphalt is what's underneath the packed snow and ice:/ Oh yeah, you're going to go in to a slide at some point, it's going to happen, the best you can do is ride it out for however long that takes and drive sensibly enough to mitigate how far that distance is.

I was in Apetlon and Vienna.
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 Oct 15, 11, 11:03    #27
Appreciate that you will need a pre menopausal lady if the two of you would like a family, but keep ypor potions open nationality wise because not many young (ish) Polish girls would go for life in a small country village, most are quite urbanised! However hope you find some one nice! Your posts are interesting.
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 Oct 15, 11, 11:59    #28
@carrie
I like your username. Reminds me of Stephen Kings movie and book.
I will be happy to meet someone from any country as long as they have a nice heart.

@foreigner
hmmm, y'know I think you should go with a professional dating service. The reason being is that in order to make a connection with someone, you want as complete a first impression as you can give and receive- pictures really matter in that regard.
I just canīt do this. I feel really like a big idiot doing this because I feel like I am shoppong in the grocery store for a fruit and on the shelve next to the fruit are ladies. This is just something I cannot get out of my head. I donīt mind people who do it, but it is hard for me to.
I will say this; if I did such a thing I would not do it from Austria as I do not trust the agencies in Austria.
I did consider putting ads in polish newspapers just to see what kind of response, if any, I got. But I donīt know which papers or how to do this from here.

Then again, you seem to have much more experience with the ladies than I do so maybe you're taking the road less traveled for a reason.
Actually I am sure I do not. I was married for 12 years to an Austrian, but since 2002 (the divorce) I only dated one austrian for 2 years, one austrian for 2 months, one german for 4 months and one Ukrainian for a few months. I feel like I am rusty and lost all over again lol

You seem like a good guy and you seem like you know what you want but c'mon in this day and age any girl between 20-26 is not what you're looking for man, that's just asking for trouble down the road....
Thanks and I agree with you on the age issue. I prefer not to, but if it was the nicest person I liked, it would be hard to say no.


Tell me more about Austrians. Are they really tight knit in small towns? How do they spend their leisure time in small towns and cities?
Itīs hard to tell you much about small towns as I never lived in one. I have only visited several times. My best friend is from a town with about 800 people, and I met his brother and he lives in shell, so it seems.
In the 20000 population city I lived in, the people are just friendlier than city people. But I think this is all over because in the city rude people survive and in the smaller towns everyone knows everyone. Even in the 20000 town I noticed the nosiness that bothers many, but in my opinion we have that even in Vienna. Ad like all small towns they know everything about everyone. these things do not bother me.
In small towns here they are more laid back, also the same I suppose like in many countries.
Leisure time is spent at the local Gasthaus, and they have a lot of little celebrations the rest of Austria does not have.
They are also more active in terms of walking up the mountains, through the forests, and they are much more friendly to visitors than city people are. They are more proud of their town than a city person is of the city.
An example; I mentioned before that I wrote to each Town hall in each town. The biggest city had 60k people in it (wanted to see what they would say to me) and the smallest town had 84. Most towns had between 800 - 4000 though.
When I asked for the bus schedule in their city/town and where I an find apartments, the big city answered me like this; You can pick up a bus schedule in our town hall.
The smaller towns all answered me like this; Please give us your address and we will mail you a bus schedule. To find out which apartments are available, please call Mrs at xxphone numberxx to tell her what you would lime and she will send you a list of all apartments.
I also got one email from he mayor of one of the towns with 1400 people in it and it was really nice. he just wrote we hope you decide to join our community and look forward to having you.

Do you have any pet peeves regarding them?
Yep. Austrians are very direct, which can easily be misconstrued as being extremely rude. They donīt seem to know how to say something a nice way as to not offend you. If they think something they defintely say it direct to your face.
I also do not like the very silent racism against eastern europeans (although I think this exist in every country about someone the people are racist against).
I do not like how they do not understand if you are in line waiting to get something at the store, they overlook you 95% of the time. But you eventually get used to this and accept it. Some people must go first or they obviously will explode within 2 minutes. usually they just act like nothing happened. They wonīt argue about it.
They also like to say how Americans are overweight and do not know the history of their own country. Yet I see many obese people here, and I seem to know more about Austria than some Austrians.
I do not like how they accept alcoholism as a part of Austria (beer is big here, in fact when I came in 1992 I saw 14 year olds buy it in stores as there was no age limit. Now the drinking age is 16 but no control (I do not mind the age because you have to accept the country and the way they are). But I donīt like how alcoholism is accepted. Any clubs or bars will sell alcohol to anyone. Everyone here knows at least one alcoholic. I know 2 very well.
I also do not like people drinking beer in the subways, cause on friday and saturday nights it just reeks of alcohol. (although I still laugh after 20 years that they sell beer at McDonalds).
Other things as well, but nothing that really bothers me. I am just being picky.


What surprised you about them?
This is hard. I think what suprised me the most is how their lifestyles are compared to ours. They are much more laid back than Americans. Theyīd rather walk 10 minutes to the store than drive 2 minuets to the same store. They seem to make a lot more free time than we do back home. To me Americans are always rushing. Drive quick to the store, be back by 2 because I have to return the rental dvd, my movie starts at 8, etc etc.....
It also suprised me that most Austrains are catholics. yet most do not attend mass ever.

Is it just Vienna or do all Austrian women have really nice derrières?
lol I lived in Graz as well (second largest city in Austria) and I actually found girls there to be more attractive than in Vienna. But itīs not true. all Austrian girls are the same; some heavy, some hot, some average. Just like all over. Alwaqys depends on ones taste in women.

E.g. What I have noticed here is: Poles seem to have an innate disdain for order. If there is a system set up, they seem to do their darndest to sabotage that system or "work around" it. That goes for everything from recycling, to driving, to queuing, to parking, to getting on and off buses, elevators, to walking on pavement/sidewalks, etc...it's quite remarkable really.
They are also born competitors, they can't not compete. This runs through all aspects of society from what I have seen: sports (even if it's just practice); drinking to driving; conversation (oh you have a witty remark, well I have an even wittier one, oh you thought you had a wittier one, well get a load of this...); cooking; random knowledge; religion/piety - these people need to "one up" whoever they have identified as their nemesis but that MAINLY applies to when they don't know the other person well.

Thatīs interesting to hear. Are you an American living in Poland, or Polish? Itīs really intersting to see the differences of people from country to country.


Your turn please:)

I don't know much about n.j. driving but I know scott stevens is a sonofabithc...the advice I could offer a person for winter (which I know you are free to throw away) is to slow down, i.e. slow down one's acceleration, deceleration, and going in/coming out of turns (completely lost on this bunch here). A person just needs to be aware of what's happening and take a heads up approach. This comes from many years of driving in cities (and countryside) with 6 months of freezing temperatures and snow cover, in those environments the asphalt is what's underneath the packed snow and ice:/ Oh yeah, you're going to go in to a slide at some point, it's going to happen, the best you can do is ride it out for however long that takes and drive sensibly enough to mitigate how far that distance is.
Yeah, I agree. I am a careful driver even in good weather. This comes with age I guess. When I was 16 I was hell on wheels lol Since I was about 25 though, i got very careful. Most likely because I realized I could actually die if I drove like I did.


I was in Apetlon and Vienna.
I never heard of appleton but I found it in google. Why were you there?
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Edited by: Foreigner4  Oct 15, 11, 19:04    #29
mallnitz:
I do not like how they do not understand if you are in line waiting to get something at the store, they overlook you 95% of the time. But you eventually get used to this and accept it. Some people must go first or they obviously will explode within 2 minutes. usually they just act like nothing happened. They wonīt argue about it.

Way-hey-hey-hate a minute, are you writing about Poland or Austria? Man, that sucks, I thought it was only here. The types that queue jump here are generally old ladies and big shots or as*holes who think they're big shots (very smug, very condescending but surprisingly very clumsy).
mallnitz:
But I think this is all over because in the city rude people survive and in the smaller towns everyone knows everyone.
So obvious, so correct yet not once did it ever cross my mind.

I am neither American nor Polish but if I know who the former captain of the Devils was then it should be obvious, eh. I will write more, my kezboard has made the jump to Polish and I donąt know whz...to be continued...

*edited* Ok problem fixed.

Yeah the whole "our country is older than your country" angle is annoying, my response is generally "so what? It's not like you yourself go back that far" but people love to pretend that countries are people and that they somehow are the entity they imagine their country to be.

Why don't you look to Hungary, Hungarian women are capital S-E-X-eeeeeeeyow. Seriously.

What you wrote about some of those towns folk being so welcoming (officially speaking) in Austria is a big 180 from what I've ever observed here. Don't get me wrong, if you KNOW people in town or meet them through someone they know then hospitality knows no bounds but if you're not known then you're an enemy. Poles are weird that way, anyone they don't know, Pole or nonPole is an enemy or at best someone who couldn't possibly be as important as them and to be treated accordingly.

I think I'm out of time for my editing:/
mallnitzThreads: 1
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 Oct 15, 11, 20:53    #30
Way-hey-hey-hate a minute, are you writing about Poland or Austria? Man, that sucks, I thought it was only here. The types that queue jump here are generally old ladies and big shots or as*holes who think they're big shots (very smug, very condescending but surprisingly very clumsy).
Here it is actually also about 90% older people, men and ladies. But on occassion you get the younger people in their early twenties or upper teens doing it. I guess some people need to get the practice in before getting old.
Oddly enough usually macho or a%%hole guys do not do it. Or at least I never noticed. I would think probably because those guys think women should be shopping, not men. I donīt see that many of those people in stores.


I am neither American nor Polish but if I know who the former captain of the Devils was then it should be obvious, eh. I will write more, my kezboard has made the jump to Polish and I donąt know whz...to be continued...
lol why did you move to Poland?


Yeah the whole "our country is older than your country" angle is annoying, my response is generally "so what? It's not like you yourself go back that far" but people love to pretend that countries are people and that they somehow are the entity they imagine their country to be.
Yep, and also a pet peeve is austrians like to say it is silly how that nationality does this or that (like hanging flags outside for being patriotic or proud), or something else. Yet they do not realize how PROUD they are of their Gösser beer (which is to me a bit more silly than hanging a flag outside) and how everything made in Austria is better than anything made anywhere else. They do not see how they are as patriotic or even more so then many other nationalities.

Why don't you look to Hungary, Hungarian women are capital S-E-X-eeeeeeeyow. Seriously.
Never thought of that. It is tough looking in like 7 different countries. I will take a peek though now.

What you wrote about some of those towns folk being so welcoming (officially speaking) in Austria is a big 180 from what I've ever observed here. Don't get me wrong, if you KNOW people in town or meet them through someone they know then hospitality knows no bounds but if you're not known then you're an enemy. Poles are weird that way, anyone they don't know, Pole or nonPole is an enemy or at best someone who couldn't possibly be as important as them and to be treated accordingly.
Thatīs funny. I think the reason people in small towns are friendly to you here is they are happy to show you how great their town is lol maybe thatīs it. And itīs also fun for most of them to meet someone from the outside unless it is a tourist town. if itīs a tourist town they are just being nice so you buy stuff. If they are a non- tourist town they are fascinated by an outsider because they get few of them. I am sure this wears off fairly quickly though if you lived there.



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