Peres: Poland one of Israel's greatest EU allies

Yes but do we really need to invade Iran to hold this status? :)

we don't need that status either. i am good with out it.

But to whom do they come for money...u-boats...high-tech...:(

not russia. :)

And Poland benefits from this how?????

Hmm... maybe they are going to call us antisemites not so often... ?

Look at the Middle East.............the Jews are behaving like the Nazi's did.............and I know someone will take offense with that too.

i'm sure but the truth is the truth.

(eagel used in Polish army)



Nice project of Polish Jew architect Limbeskind (survivor of Łódz getto)

This new building have just started to be build in Warszawa. It will symbolise Polish eagels wing. Polish eagel fighting in Warszawa against Nazi Germans ...

I have longer version of article I have posted at the begining.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFu ll&cid=1208422632707

It's just good to be friends with the jews. Afterall, they hold many prominent and powerful positions all over the globe. Maybe this friendship will result in more economic investments from israel and help the overall ecomomic situation in poland. And yes, as previously stated, they will no longer label Poles as anti-semetic. :)



Yes and the most common language (maybe even official) in parliament was Polish. Sorry no sources; i remember reading it in a book sometime ago.

no comment. Most of Polish people don't see it in this way. Of couse you are Canada citizen ...
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300 000 Israelis speak Polish.


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I have great website about Polish year in Israel

http://www.poland-israel.org/en/?lang=en

http://www.szuszu.art.pl/chanut/ (nice website)

;)

From reading all this information, it seems as if Israel is willing to grant Poland a relatively favorable position as a vassal state in the JWO (Jewish World Order)...only, all crucifixes and crosses will have to be removed from sight when top Israeli commisars make periodic visits...maybe I am too cynical.

I don't feel Poland should hide a thing. As long as they don't feel they can change or should I say become another country within Poland. Poland belongs to Polish and religion is not a state within itself.

Celinski, you always make good and heartfelt posts...I am more cynical, to my own
sorrow sometimes...I made the remark about the crosses because of the outrageous
noisemaking of some Jewish groups about the display of Crosses by the Carmelite nuns after Pope John Paul II said his Mass...Hitler, of course was not a Christian, although he did maintain relations with the Catholic Church for political purposes, and because of his fear of the reaction of German Catholics...now Stalin, interestingly enough, was once an Orthodox seminary student, until the priest in charge of the seminary expelled him...but, in another curiosity, Stalin protected this priest throughout his time of rule, and made sure the priest had a place to live and a pension.

:)

firstly dear americans who don't even speak Polish ;)
than you for your opinions :o)

today I have been thinking about Poland and Israel and I have decided to write poem.

Is it butterfly?
Is it dancing queen?
Dancing together
On fields of love

Is it spring fog?
Is it olive tree?
Touching each other
At the morning

It is Poland and Israel
Two endless lovers
Finally
Together


Łukasz

And this should be a factor?

Celinski do you like my poem ?


in some way it is factor ;)
you have different perspective and point of view.

Poland does not need to be "cleaned" by Peres.

As I wrote in one of your forums a few days ago -
Poland and many Polish people have been good for Jews, which explains why so many Jews settled there for so many centuries. I wish to stress that many thousands - if not ten thousands - of Poles behaved in a saintly way during WW2 when they endangered themselves to save Jews. Its a pity that this side of Poland doesn't get the gratitude that it more than deserves.

My family who came to Israel in 1935, have lived for generations in Poland, had Polish friends and loved Poland.

Talila
(A Jewish Polophil, Tel Aviv, Israel)

This IMO comes from life experiances, family history and lifes lessons.

Very nice poem.



Well said, Thank you.

I really apreciate your post Talila.

Celinski I have posted this all articles to show that everything is going in right direction.

I will quote Peres :

"Poland had the world's largest concentration of Jews, with close to 3.5 million on the eve of World War II, Peres said, and it was there that the Jewish press came into being. "In Poland they spoke Yiddish, studied in Hebrew and prayed to be 'next year in Jerusalem,'" Peres recalled."


as Telila have noticed:

"Poland and many Polish people have been good for Jews, which explains why so many Jews settled there for so many centuries."

Now when Poland is free we started to have positive dialogue and there are some achievments.

I have checked Talia profile and she speaks some Polish even she hasn't been born in Poland.

Gruba ryba problem jest ów dużo Polacy jesteście wieprz - mający głowę i don't zobaczyć ten wielki obraz!...rosumiec?...and actually, I am all for cultural exchange between nations...art and culture foster peace, not war.

I know very well that most poles don't think this way. Fortunately the government doesn't have the same medieval mentality.



I am! However, I also have Polish citizenship:)
Although I don't live in Poland, I do have family there whom I keep in touch with and visit often, so I have a pretty good idea of what poles think.

Actually during medieval period plenty of Jews settled in Polish kingdom. Not without reason I suppose.

Was he speaking for himself or the Israeli state as a whole? It must be borne in mind that Peres was born in Poland, so a little biased.

It is very reasonable move. Some Poles and Israelis don't like each other but both can calcuate.

We should play in one team.

Regard the comment about "friendship" as a gesture of politeness toward the host. Instead we should wait for a substance. Polish military is doing Israels bidding by being one of the occupiers of Iraq and Afganistan (itself revolting for a country which suffered so much in hands of foreign occupiers). While the civilized world is against Israels apartheid in the Palestine, Jewish state scraping a barrel for supporters. Whenever I had any talk with Jewish people, while they personally were nonoffensive, they did not hide hostility toward Poles in general. It has tremendous effect on Poles personal lifes in countries where Jews hold positions of power or/and significnt influence. Presently Poland finds itself in the position when Jewish state needs our support (now and in the foreseable future) before rushing into friendship I would like to see what the other party can offer. I would not take an answer that Israel has no influence on Jews living in countries outside Israel.