What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others?

In this case we both misinterpreted our posts :)

Prince needs a map

Yawn... The only funny thing in this topic is the chosen lecturing others on the historical accuracy... lol...

Are you back in employment, Greg? Getting sth out of Poland?

Indeed . . . so why are you quoting me Muttley?

And I've got at work that kind of closet with s*it watching you... scarry stuff...

Greg is like a Romulan vessel. He decloaks and fires off a lame comment or two, then disappears back into a cloaked state, not to be seen for a while.

I'll have to start calling him Tomalok. It even looks Polish.

Scary closets? You should report to Polish TAPS and go onto Polish Ghost Hunters, LOL

http://www.polishforums.com/polish_shelf_toilets-7_25937_0.html

- haha - fooled you

No Harry, Poland was not the first to surrender but you are first to make a fool of yourself by this post.

Czechoslovakia was first to surrender. Poland was first to fight against Germans and Poles put up a damn good fight, while Soviets stabbing Poles in their backs. Only those filled with hatred against Poles can interpret history otherwise.

I do mean them. You will see that I didn’t say "all Polish airmen". But why bother trying to debate what I say when you can just claim I said other things and then debate those statements. Much easier for you to just lie, isn’t it?



I suggest you check who wikipedia is quoting: it is a Polish source.



Well, neither the free Poles nor the representatives of the official government bothered to turn up at the victory parade despite both being invited. And you have done nothing but whine about it ever since.



So you are admitting that Poland was second to fight? Good.



Those are what are called lies. No. 31 Squadron of the South African Royal Air Force was not Polish and had no Polish pilots. Same for No. 148 Squadron of the Royal Air Force, No. 178 Squadron of the Royal Air Force, and No. 34 Squadron of the South African Royal Air Force. Yes the British squadrons flew Halifaxes rather than Liberators but the Polish squadron flew two other types of planes as well as Liberators. Even the most Polish of sources, the Museum of the Warsaw Uprising admits that the majority of the non-Russian pilots who supplied Warsaw are not Polish. http://www.1944.pl/index.php?a=site_text&id=12440&se_id=12448

As for your other lie, Britain supported the Uprising: it was your heroes from the USA who didn’t want to upset Uncle Joe and so refused to press him for use of the bases in the USSR. Read a bit of history for a change instead of just lying.


The Czechs got properly sold down the river by both the British (the Munich fiasco) and the American (made virtually no attempt to push on into Czechoslovakia and handed the bits they had captured to the Soviets). But you don’t hear Czechs ******** and moaning about it in the way that Poles do. They’re respectful for the efforts which were made to help them and don’t just lie about what happened.

You tell me where the last of the Czech forces surrendered to Germany and I’ll tell you where the last of the Polish forces surrendered to Germany.



Poland: second to fight and first surrender.
Poles: lying and whining about the war since 1939.

So was Poland.
Chamberlain went out of his way to convince Poland to not mobilize any forces, in order not to pisss Hitler off, as if he hadn't been since his birth.


They have no reason whatsoever to complain. They did not put ANY fight against nazis. What grounds would they have to complain? Poles fought from day one to the last day of WW2 and they were betrayed. But you need to have an IQ at least in the upper range of 2 digits to see the difference.



Threatening a Luftwaffe attack on Prague, Hitler persuaded Hácha to order the capitulation of the Czechoslovak army. On the morning of March 15, German troops entered Bohemia and Moravia, meeting no resistance.

After that Czechs had no reasons to surrender.



Only a Jew can hate Poland that much.

A classic Polish move: blame other people for your own mistakes. Your very own Colonel Beck was worried about giving Hitler a pretext to invade (that was the reason Poland wasn’t fully mobilised when the attack came, or did Poles suddenly decide in 1939 that for the first time in their history they would do what a Brit told them to). He was so worried that he wouldn’t even let Britain send any service personnel at all to Poland before the German attack.


Pity that your IQ can’t see the difference between the USA and UK when assessing who betrayed Poland. The UK fought a war which it didn’t need to fight, for six long years, to defend Polish independence. Not that Poles ever have even a single word of thanks for that. Only lies and complaints. With hindsight, the UK should probably have been like Sweden and Switzerland. Hitler had no quarrel with the English.


I dislike some things about Poland and the average Pole. So in your mind I must be Jewish. You must be Polish. The pity for you is that you can’t organise your traditional entertainment (i.e. a pogrom) because the Germans killed all your Jews.

Bottom line is Poles put up a fight. Czechs did not. Therefore Czechs are to be admired, Poles to be laughed at. Using your logic, a person who never went to school is a more admirable scholar than someone who failed an exam among many he took.



Both did.



UK did not fight for 6 years at all. And as soon as they started they were humiliated, and the humiliation came very swift. They did not surrender. They escaped since thay had not a chance against Germans. When you laugh at Poles, pause for a second and think (if you can) how a poor, and young country was a match in a conflict with Germany and USSR, when combined forces of two superpowers France and Britain got beat so badly by Germans alone.


You hate filled Jew always fail to be fair. Words mean squat. Brits offered a lot of those in 1939. They were useless. Poles, in contrast, fought for Britain and the effort was significant.



You don't have. You simply are, and you don;t need to be ashamed of that, only of your personal hatred.


Yes, I am and always will be.



All Poles did was organize pogroms against Jews, and yet Jews flocked to Poland, escaping from all other parts of Europe, straight into the claws of the Polish anti-semite. Not only did that happened once or twice but Jews were so stupid that they kept on heading towards a slaughter for nearly 1000 years.

You don't hold your own Jewish kind in high esteem, do you?
A self hating Jew?

Tell that to Reinhard Heydrich. How many high-ranking Nazis did the Polish kill?


Who’s laughing at Poles? Not me. Must be that insecurity that is so common to Poles.


The UK did not fight for six years? You want me to list all the battles British forces fought from 1939 to 1945? After that we can list all the ones the Poles fought in that time. Although we’d better not include the 1943 Warsaw uprising, you don’t consider those people Poles do you.


Always nice to see your bigotry on display.


Here’s the small problem you: I’m not Jewish. And before you ask, neither were either of my parents. You, however, are a bigot.


Talk about ancient history all you want, the fact remains that after WWII the few Polish Jews who survived the holocaust got such a welcome when they got home that almost all of them left Poland. How nice of you Poles to finish Hitler’s work.


I hold Jew in no higher or lower esteem than I hold Poles. That’s because, unlike you, I am not a bigot.

Just my five cents.
Losing time on discussion with a person lying on purpose does not make too much sense.
I couldn't care less about Harry's opinions but he makes a kind of interesting creature - should be stuffed and presented on the next world's anti-Polonism exhibition.

Don't answer Harry.
Try to grow your IQ first.

Quote a single lie I've told.

I've been quite happy to show the lies posted here by Poles.

Let me return the favor and point out only the latest lie told by you. I don’t want to embarrass you too much.



When you learn your history better maybe you will stop confusing events, just because something sounds alike does not mean it refers to the same event. Just to remind you so you can read about it.
Warsaw Ghetto Uprising
Warsaw Uprising

When you refresh your history you will see that 1943 event was called Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and it was Jewish insurgency.

Warsaw Uprising was in 1944 and was orchestrated by the Polish Home Army and it had nothing to do with “those people” as you put it.

The rest of this post I’ll take as your opinion so I’ll refrain from pointing out the obvious dishonesty, you just don’t know any better.

Wow! A Czech killed a German!
You're asking me how many high ranking German officers Poles killed? I thought you knew something about Poland's history. Or is it that you chose to mention only those parts which fit your homophobic agenda?


No, it didn't.
WW2 started on Sept 1 1939, ended on May 8/9 1945. That's 2076 (2077) days. 4 years is 2191 or 2192 days (depending on how leap years work out). Ergo, Brits DID NOT fight for 6 years in WW2.


's okay, I understand.


You are really a sick bastard.


You posts are for all to see here, liar.



Here you go:



That's obviously a lie. Neither these alleged six years are any longer than other six year periods, nor did Brits fight for six years in WW2.

Anotrher one:



There is no such thing in history of WW2 as 1943 Warsaw uprising.

Sadly, :( I tend to feel "Harry" knows how to bs and alter history to hurt Poland's pride and enjoys trying. Therefore I feel the best action as Borrka offered, would be best. :)

Now I’m homophobic? That’ll be news to the people at KPH (I do volunteer work for them).


Liar! WWII finished on Sept 2 1945

Liar! Get you fingers and count: Sept 1 1939 to Sept 2 1945 is six years and one day. Moron.


I understand that you are a bigot who decided what religion somebody must be on the basis of their opinions.


Was it my ancestors or yours who gave returning Polish Jews warm welcomes like the one they got in Kielce in 1947?


Firstly, it is six years (see above about counting on your fingers). And secondly, how many long weeks did the Polish army fight?


No sh!t! Really? Was it? Thanks for telling me that.

Nice to know that you consider we can't call the uprising which took place in the Warsaw ghetto a "Warsaw uprising" because it was Jews who decided it's better to face certain death with honour than almost certain death with cowardice.


**** off bigot.

The British government has never strived for transparency on any matters that pertain to state security. The term 'state security' is also used extremely widely to include how many cups of tea a department drinks. There may be something sinister in Sikorski's death, maybe not.



Poles got the ****** end of the stick but they were no more fighting to defend Britain than the British were fighting to defend Poland. Each was fighting for their own country. Neither owes a debt to the other.

lol It just can't get any more funny than this. ;)

As for Czechs, they are a very pragmatic nation. Thanks to this pragmatism if I would have to choose in which city I would like to live these days, Prague or Warsaw, I would definately choose Prague, so their political choices couldn't have been that bad.



Here here!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Expulsion





where they emigrated (Poland) ?

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Czech rep. isn't Poland that is why they had much different possible political choices. Htiler had much different plans according to Poland.

You the man Matyjasz!*






(*though I reserve the right to withdraw this comment should you disagree with me at anytime in the future.)

let`s reverse question... What Serbians get out of the wars and struggles for Poles?

Tusk gave us simple answer... Serbians got big sh** in form of Polish Kosovo recognition.

That was British war in their colonies. They shouldn't have been there in the first place.
So all Jews are religious?

Returning Jews? Returning from where? I thought they were all killed.


Polish armies fought every single day between Sept 1 1939 and May 9 1945. Some in the Eastern front, some in the Western one and some within Poland.


Is that the best you can do when you are proven wrong?


Cool with me but not with the polonophobic assshole called Harry.

Polish nation was 3rd on Hitlers list with people to exterminate - all allies were good and yes Polish soldiers were fighting on all fronts for Poland.

On East:



On West:



On South:

Adam Aston - Czerwone maki na Monte Cassino, 1944



In secret services:
Enigma Codebreakers

i will tell you what Poland got... Poland got order to screw Serbians, in order to prove her fully NATO membership... later, Polish `freinds` would give to Poles Obama of Eurabia... then, giving would be complete

What's your point Harry ? First of all there wasn't any uprising in Poland in 1943.

Once again you are lying. Warsaw uprising implies citywide uprising which in fact Jewish insurgency in Warsaw Ghetto was not, it was confined to the Jewish Ghetto within the city of Warsaw. There's a reason why historians named those events as they did. You name it like this so the ignorant westerners will think it’s the same event in History.



The problem with twisting words around is that it changes the meaning of, same goes for the concentration camps calling them Polish, another Jewish lie. It is your intention to change the truth because of your Jewish bigotry toward Poles while portraying yourself as an innocent victim.



While you at it why don’t you remind everyone of the reception given to the returning Poles by your ancestors Jewish Communists, especially to the one’s returning from the western front or those fighting in Poland itself during Nazi occupation. The witch trials that the Communist Jews have organized against those that fought for your freedom but were Polish, and the Jewish NKWD members who were the executioners in Katyn forest and later on in Poland after the war who executed AK members. Nice reception wouldn’t you say?

You live in the city of Warsaw yet you don’t know anything about its history. You’re just someone with a chip on his shoulder who is either ignorant of facts, or deliberately twisting the truth. The amazing part is that you believe your own propaganda no matter how outrages it might be.

technical error

i wanted to say Polish friends but, now when i think it could be also said Polish fiends

I think we should just leave this demented man alone with his thoughts.
He is blinded by his utter hatred for Poles and cannot think clearly.

Yeah, those selfless Brits just couldn’t wait to run to Poland's help in September '39. But we, ungrateful Poles, never thank them enough. And of course Britain never needed to fight Nazis for any other reason than to defend Polish independence. For London was never bombed. British convoys never attacked by U-boots. That’s all Polish lies. And don’t forget that solving Enigma thing: totally British.
You are just grotesque. Not worth my time.

Harry, that was gutrot, sorry. Hitler would have taken you guys out at the drop of a hat.

As for the Enigma thing, you can thank Scotland for inventing the radar.

At times it's pretty easy to see why Poles are universally loathed and so frequently referred to as dumb polaks

Polish people aren't universally loathed.

it is a personal opinion, which you seem to recycle over and over on PF. what it the point and we have got your message.

Use you energy wisely.

Some people need to be told the same thing again and again and again, and even then it doesnt always sink in

fair enough, but with your intelligence and wordliness, one would expect you to contribute in a more positive way. Well, the one is me, because nobody else seem to be bothered;)