What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others?

And Poland was then fighting for no country other than Poland.

And you feel if Poland did not stop the Soviet Army that the Soviet Army would have stopped with Poland, I suppose?

Obviously not Carol, try to focus on the question at hand

The months following Britain's declaration of war are referred to as the 'phoney war' because Britain saw no military action.
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Ok I have given many examples of Poland fighting outside Poland for the allie troops.

Ok I have given many examples of Poland fighting outside Poland for the allie troops. Now show me some of allies fighting for and with Poland within Poland?


The months following Britain's declaration of war are referred to as the 'phoney war' because Britain saw no military action.
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before 3 September 1939

The first British mission against Germany was launched within one hour of war being declared and the first attack took place the next day.

Geezus krist Carol, how on earth did you make it to adulthood?

I never said, nor meant prior to Sept. 3, 1939.

We were your allies, yes, you should have dropped eveything and helped save Poland. Just as Polish had done for you. "For your Freedom and Ours".

ITS 2008 FOR FCUKS SAKE GROW UP.

when did Poland drop everything and help save Britain prior to 3 September 1939? You are the one who used past perfect, now you tell us when dropped everything and helped save Britain.

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now do you have some links showing what you did within Poland, for the Polish?

now do you have some links showing what you did within Poland, for the Polish?

Where and do you have some type of link?

At one minute after noon on 3 September 1939 a Blenheim piloted by Fg Off A McPherson took off on a reconnaissance mission to Wilhelmshaven.

On 4 September 1939, just 29 hours after the declaration of war, bombers from Wattisham took off on the first attack of the war, against enemy shipping in Wilhelmshaven harbour.

classic pincer movement

The flanks of the opponent are attacked simultaneously in a pinching motion after the opponent has advanced towards the center of an army which is responding by moving its outside forces to the enemy's flanks, in order to surround it. At the same time, a second layer of pincers attacks on the more extreme flanks, so as to prevent any attempts to reinforce the target unit.

No I don't. Because I was half wrong. The first mission started 61 minutes after war was declared (I thought the timezone stated in the declaration was European time but it was actually British time).

I asked for anytime after Sept. 3, 1939 "within Poland"?

Where [was first British mission against Germany which was launched within one hour of war being declared and the first attack which took place the next day] and do you have some type of link?

Your exact question was on this very page and was:

Ok I have given many examples of Poland fighting outside Poland for the allie troops. Now show me some of allies fighting for and with Poland within Poland?

History will show what had been achieved and what was in the course of being realised at the outbreak of the war. But history will certainly confirm that the Polish nation, fully aware of the sacrifices involved, took up the fight against German rapaciousness which was rearing its head, for the second time in one generation. Once again, the Polish people threw into the scales all their material and spiritual resources which had been accumulating during the twenty years of their independent existence.

Got anything yet Harry?

Yes. I've got lots of lies from you.

Ok I have given many examples of Poland fighting outside Poland for the allie troops. Now show me some of allies fighting for and with Poland within Poland?

Stop avoing the question with name calling before you go to time out.

Now can you answer the question vs. side stepping.

Congratulations

Special Release! Hitler & Stalin Attack Poland 1939/9/4

Europe at War!
1) "Dramatic scenes of a new conflict that may envelop the world in flames! Hitler's war machine rolls into Poland, encouraged to strike by the new pact with Stalin's 'Red' Russia. With Danzig seized, Polish infantry and cavalry rally to the defense of their homeland. Italy remains in the background, while Nazis pour into the Siegfried Line to stem a possible Allied thrust. England: Tense eleventh-hour scenes in London, as Prime Minister Chamberlain declares a state of war exists! Troops mobilize and air raid defenses are manned to prevent bombing attacks. Thousands of helpless children are evacuated to the countryside! France: The French war machine swings into high gear as France follows the lead of Britain in declaring war! Bus-loads of troops leave the city enroute to the 'Front.' Eight million men under arms, ready to strike! The Maginot Line ready to repulse any attack!" (no sound)
2) Pres. Roosevelt Pledges To Keep U.S. Out Of War - "Washington, DC: President Roosevelt, his peace efforts failed, appeals for national unity in the crisis and pledges his fight for neutrality!" scenes of newsreel cameras and radios, sound of FDR speaking in the partial newsreel without narration

falsely claiming a unique victim status, crying about how other nations should have dropped everything and saved them, a failure to accept that maybe other nations had other priorities at the time.

Very impressive! It's just a shame you couldn't defend your own borders. You're worse than the French.

Still can't answer the real question, I thought not. If you come up with something I'll be waiting.

The US is asked to stay out of war.
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2) Pres. Roosevelt Pledges To Keep U.S. Out Of War - "Washington, DC: President Roosevelt, his peace efforts failed, appeals for national unity in the crisis and pledges his fight for neutrality!"

There is a justice after all: Britain was the biggest looser in WW 2. You lost your superpower position. So go ahead and tell us there was no point of helping Poland all you want. Losers. LOL

So the British lost their superpower position but you can still whine about how they (as a non-super power) should have done more to help Poland after the war?

and that the RAF did nothing against Germany until 1940.

Well, I either forgot that you are either a delusional moron or that you are a vindictive liar.

If Poland never went to war for Britain then who was that Polish beside you?

What did you have on your plate that would be more important than keeping your word to the ones you told, "we'll be there"?

I guess you never saw the death toll on Non Jewish? Yes we were being killed and lived in inhumane conditions. Some felt a gas chamber would have been more humane that freezing, starving, slaving and watching each other die a slow death. In the end losing our country that we fought to save.

Non Communist continued to live under the conditions you decribe. Food in "Stalin's Communist Poland" was for the ones that were Moscow Poles.

Priorities like your precious 5 o'clock tea, dahrlin'?

There is a justice after all: Britain was the biggest looser in WW 2. You lost your superpower position. So go ahead and tell us there was no point of helping Poland all you want. Losers. LOL

Those raids had the same military significance as declaring war on Germany=zero. Silly that you even mention them. Still looser.

The Red Army was little more than a joke and would have presented no problem to the British and/or French armies.

The war in Europe would have then been over and the Polish nation wouild now be a historical footnote with the Polish people exterminated or enslaved.

preparing for a war that we were in no position logistically to fight. We were under armed and under prepared. If we would have fought the Germans in a land war in 1939 we would have been beaten quickly and decisively.

This is very significant since Hitler had concentrated almost all German military forces in the east, and France had one of the strongest armies in the world. Had France attacked Germany in a serious way as promised, the results could have been very serious, if not disastrous for the Germans.

Poland in the postwar period is even a fraction as bad as it was under the Nazis then you seriously need to read more.

This quote is about France vs. Britain and had they attacked Germany. What I question is what if all three, France, Britain and Poland did all jointly attack, could the world war be avoided?

My god you are thick.

Is this not what happened anyway in Poland? Polish military I speak to were fighting for a free Poland, not Soviet occupied Poland. 1989 is not that long ago.

This quote is about France vs. Britain and had they attacked Germany. What I question is what if all three, France, Britain and Poland did all jointly attack, could the world war be avoided?

I think you really need to get your thoughts and ideas in order before you carry on with this.

Had France attacked Germany in a serious way as promised, the results could have been very serious, if not disastrous for the Germans.

The small matter of preparing for a war that we were in no position logistically to fight. We were under armed and under prepared. If we would have fought the Germans in a land war in 1939 we would have been beaten quickly and decisively.

You have done nothing in this thread but tell offensive lies.

This has nothing to do with my family it has everything to do with how the Polish continued to live under communist rule.

What stuck in my throat, and indeed the throat of my fellow watcher, was the scene in 1943 in which Winston Churchill flew to North Africa to meet General Anders of the Polish home army, who had fought like a lion for the Allies but who now was worried that if he didn’t get his troops back to Europe, the Russians might be in a position to take over Poland after the war and turn it into a communist satellite. “Don’t worry”, Churchill assured the general, affably. “We came into the war because of Poland. We will not abandon you and Poland will be happy.”

Happy? Well, not exactly. In fact, Poland settled down to several decades of sometimes brutal, always dreary, Russian misrule, after the British did indeed abandon, ie betray, Poland to Stalin. Or, at any rate, did no more than squeak when the brutal German occupation was replaced by an almost-as-brutal Soviet one.

But the film then interviewed aged survivors of the Warsaw uprising who, having endured these appalling acts of Nazi retribution for the uprising, were – months later – beaten, raped or shot dead by the incoming Russians, who wanted to rid their “new Poland” of any likely dissident elements.

Of course, I know there is not that much the British could actually have done, physically, for Poland after the war. There was no possibility of British troops getting to Warsaw, unlike Prague, which Churchill was desperate to liberate before the Russians arrived, and which the Western powers could easily have taken had not the Americans decided to hand it to Russia on a plate – Roosevelt being persuaded that Stalin could be trusted not to impose communism on all the territories he “liberated”. But still, a promise broken is a promise broken.

Throughout my journalistic career, I’ve met a lot of people who claimed the British betrayed them, from Northern Irish Protestants, complaining of being betrayed to the Republic, to Croats, betrayed to Tito in 1945, Serbs, betrayed to NATO bombs in 1999 (“after we fought with you in two world wars”, etc, etc), and various others. But many of those “betrayals” rely on a tendentious interpretation of the word, suggesting promises were broken that, in fact, were never given in the first place. But Poland really was a betrayal, and that ought to stick in all our throats. And it shows what a big-hearted nation the Poles are, that they don’t make more of it.

Yet you expected Polish army who had not yet a chance to fully modernize, having been resurrected only 19 years earlier, to successfully defend us and laughing at us that we failed. So British.

No, darling, that would be your domain. You are typical product of some leftist university. It's bizarre but true that there is never any recognition by leftists that their own passionately held beliefs have been proven wrong again and again. On the contrary, my experience with academics on the left is disdain for any opinion other than that approved by the leftist fraternity. Open-mindedness is not a characteristic of the left.

I just happen to have this in my mailbox from today.

And it shows what a big-hearted nation the Poles are, that they don’t make more of it.

No we didnt expect you to win, we expected you to lose which is what you did

No we didnt expect you to win, we expected you to lose which is what you did. No one was laughing about it and there'd be nothing 'so British' if anyone did. Other than that you're spot on though.

Changing the subject is a well established diversionary tactic.