Will Poland become like the UK ?

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"of or pertaining to disfranchised and uprooted individuals or groups, esp. those who have lost status"

Although many like to consider the UK a multicultural country, I know of certain parts of England that are inhabited by mostly English people and thus practice English culture and way of life.

Lots of English Londoners have been migrating eastwards to theese destinations ever since the 1960's to escape "multiculturalism". Ethnic minorities have never really followed so even today everything remains English.

I still visit theese places frequently. I've taken a few of my Polish friends to places like Norfolk and they are truely shocked at how different it is from London. No crime, no tension, no muslims, just friendly english people all sharing the same culture, values and way of life.

I remember one of my Polish mates, he was living for a year in London and he hated it, he said England was nothing like he'd read in books.

So I took him East to show him the real England and he said; "now this is what I came to the UK to see and experience, real english culture and people". The next week he packed his bags left london and moved to a small English coastal village called Cromer.

He's been there ever since and is now married to an English girl. I spoke to him 2 months ago and he was getting elecution lessons so that he could loose his Polishness and get a proper English accent.

I knew such places should be in UK!
You described it in such way that I imagined everything! That is somothing from so loved by me Victorian epoch so respected by many today Russian intellectuals.

??? why??

You would love the lake district, where poets and writers hailed from...small english villages with tea shops and a country pub and views to die for

I agree with what you say,but also feel there are many areas of Britain with a successful multicultural mix.These tend to be places with wealthier(Chinese/Indian)communities alongside the English and Europeans but with no Pakistanis/Somalis or British born black pretend gangsta thug idiots.
I actually prefer mixing with open minded or educated Nigerians/Chinese/Indians etc than with English chavs or dole scrounging moaners.Thanks to a number of lowlife criminal scumbag immigrants its easy to forget that there are many more decent ones who are really not so different from the traditional English people you mention.

That's the reason why British detective serials that show country police and country crimes are so popular in Russia that Russian TV central channels show them in prime time on Saturday and Sunday. People love detectives if in the fund such lovely places. No more foreign serials be central Russian TV at all in any day of week (only local TV). Only these one.
As to smth like Sun Hill serial about London police, it is absolutely impopular.
Victorian culture even today and even connected with detective attracts Russians.

In Edinburgh the greatest amount of beggers are from the city itself. Although, I don't deny there are foreigners begging on the streets but the majority are from Edinburgh or Britain at least.

bonsoir y a quelqu'un qui pqrle francais dans ce forum ?

je crois que c imp[ossible que poland deviendra comme uk ...mais j en suis sur et certain que uk deviendra comme la poland .........heheheheh

a cette occasion j'embrasse toutes les belle femmes polonaises je vous aime bien bisous bisous bisous xxxx

I am sad to read this. :-(

oh I do love a french accent :) gets me every time...

Why sad? English people have been doing this for years, I just wondered why he felt the need.

Oh I know but I feel that its good to get a better accent etc but to want to lose everything about him that is Polish...its sad but maybe he has his reasons for wanting to do this. I don't know the guy, I just felt sad because I would not want to lose my 'Scottishness' or 'Britishness' should I move elsewhere.

Away Guy, now you say that the uk is a **** hole? so the immigrants are selling things in warsaw? Who is buying?? the imigrants? no because they are selling, whoever buys also contributes with the rubbish, listen neo nazi, what is the problem with Africa or India? Aren't the people white enough to your standards? Man I thought that this forum was cool, but people like you make the world a worse place to live and don't add anything. Why dont you take your shaved heads friends and your suastic crosses and go there and kill all the foreigners, ohhhh because you are not polish, so sorry.

I think as boarders open up you are bound to get open migration and you are going to get a mix of good and bad that is why Australia has a strict points system because they do not want to be flooded by low life and people who are going to cost the state loads and loads of money. I do not go to Poland now and have not been there for many years however, I do remember being in a town called Koszalin and I parked my car for a while near a church,. My car was surrounded by Romanian gypsies trying to get money from me almost by force. It was a very unpleasant experience. They also hung around in Warsaw in the main building where people would queue up to buy tickets rubbing their dirty hands over people's coats to force them to hand over money to simply get rid of them. Poland deals in a lot of illegal passports and counterfeit documents so a lot of former Eastern Europeans are flocking there in force to get the documentation in order to enter the United Kingdom. I was always against the E.U., always against Polish membership and I for one could see the negative long term results of the collapse of the Berlin Wall. The Poles see freedom as an end product as they are not used to freedom but freedom is a malleable thing which grows and changes shape over a life time in so many ways. Poland like so many other new countries want to milk the cow but nobody wants to feed it. I can only say that I thank God that we never returned to Poland to live.

Another sad, miserable post of a disgraceful creature aka kmiot. You should know that hostility puts a lot of stress on the body, and promotes the release of inflammatory proteins in your blood. A prime cause of cardiovascular disease and cancer.
So, lighten up.

I agree.

I disagree about the EU part, if you visit Poland now you will see the changes it has brought, truly incredible in such a short space of time.

But regarding the passports and forgery of documentation, there was a very interesting Panormama documentary on BBC or CH4 (don't recall which) last year.
One reporter, a moroccan lady iirc, was able to acquire forged passports for any country in the EU in Poland.
Select passports were widely available in other countries, for example, Dutch passports in Germany, French passports in Belgium.
But Poland was the only country where you could buy any of the 25 passports, and they were supposed to be of the highest quality also.

Furthermore, acquiring the passports in other countries was a clandestine affair.
Acquiring forgeries in Poland was simply a matter of ringing a number and meet in the park.

I asked my partner if she thought it was a misportrayal of Poland etc. and she said absolutely not, its most definitely like that.
Often, if you know a Polish or Lithuanian guy, he can acquire just about anything for you including Kalashnikovs because of the favour system that operated during coummunist times.

Michal you accuse East Europeans. You think they are so primitive.
But aren't your leaders, people you elect as more clever, also primitive?
As you describe you aren't East Europe frequent visitor. So you don't know West leaders spare a lion's share of your personally taxes on "educating" us in the way you described above.
Your politicians think the East should atmit today western standarts without any political and social preparation. Many western endowments make propaganda of today values without any interest to transitorial stages. Some prepare coloured revolution against superior power without any attention to the damaged social system on the whole in our countries.
All these steps and standarts aren't proposed. They are all imposed by different ways. And as to consequencies, Poland, Romania, Ukraine, Russia should assume the complete rosponsability.
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