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Grzegorz_
  Aug 12, 07, 10:50  #91

Quoting: Daisy

so you've changed your mind about going to UK or Ireland to work?


Yes...


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Wyspianska
  Aug 12, 07, 10:51  #92

Im not telling about everyone who wants to go there for work. Some people need money for study for example. But in my opinion its not better job than here, in Poland. So no reason to be proud of. Specially soo proud. I met a lot of such Poles. They think they are the best only cuz they are working in different coutries. In fact they are even worse than me in english. So, yeah. As i said: sad.


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Eurola
  Aug 12, 07, 10:52  #93

Wyspianska, I totally agree with you. I really don't understand why young, very often educated people who finished university, want to go to another country, and do this kind of jobs. I see it also in the US and I really don't like it.


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Zeze [Guest]
  Aug 12, 07, 11:04  #94

Quoting: Eurola
I really don't understand why young, very often educated people who finished university, want to go to another country, and do this kind of jobs.

the pay is much more them in Poland

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Daisy
  Aug 12, 07, 11:09  #95

Quoting: Eurola
educated people who finished university, want to go to another country, and do this kind of jobs


not all of them are doing low paid jobs, most of the dentists at the practice I go to are Polish, the other one is Croatian. They are earning good money


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Michal
  Aug 12, 07, 11:10  #96

Quoting: Eurola

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Wyspianska, I totally agree with you. I really don't understand why young, very often educated people who finished university, want to go to another country, and do this kind of jobs. I see it also in the US and I really don't like it.

Quoting: Eurola
want to go to another country, and do this kind of jobs. I see it also in the US and I really don't like it.

Yet you are in the United States and you say that your life is much better there than it would be back in Polnad so you are in effect answering your own question.

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espana
  Aug 12, 07, 11:10  #97

Quoting: Daisy
not all of them are doing low paid jobs

the 5 % only.


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Eurola
  Aug 12, 07, 11:16  #98

I'm sure the pay is much better abroad, but I would understand, if it was a "temporary" job, used to support yourself, when you let's say - learn english. However, if you have a master degree, and 5,10 years later still are wiping arses, then it is pathetic and a total luck of ambition and pride.
Luckily, there are also lots of young people,who take pride in themselves and get respectable jobs.


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Daisy
  Aug 12, 07, 11:16  #99

Quoting: espana
the 5 % only.


no I disagree, I don't think it is as low as 5%, maybe initially some people came here on a low paid job to start with, but then they move on to a better job. Polish couple who are renting a house in my street, now want to buy a house in the street, they must be earning a reasonable amount between them to be able to afford to buy.


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Eurola
  Aug 12, 07, 11:28  #100

Yes, Daisy polish people love to own property and get their own place as soon as they can. I worked hard waiting on tables for first couple of years, and studied hard at the same time, so can push a mouse for a very good living... :)
All jobs are needed, and as the world's population gets older, the medical field seems to be a way to go. And, with a piece of paper, you can get a good job, insurance and all.


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Michal
  Aug 12, 07, 14:45  #101

I have not been looking at all the remarks made before but it all depends on people and situations. Euola has an oversimplified attitude towards reality. I have a friend who lives in Czestochowa and lived for eight years in Sweden during martial rule. He learnt Swedish and even had a Swedish passport. In Sweden, he cleaned the streets and met nobody. He finished Jagiellonski but his qualification was not even recognized by the Swedish Government so he had a choice of either being an even better street cleaner or returning to Poland, which he did and now runs a gallery in Czestochowa. Also it is worth pointing out that a lot of these so called Polish Master degrees are in fact nothing more than a British first bachelor degree actually. The Polish will not agree but then again they won World War 2 single handedly as well. The Russian only looked on and watched.

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Wroclaw
  Aug 12, 07, 15:22  #102

Michal,

Do you get a kick out of insulting people ?


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PolskaDoll
  Aug 12, 07, 15:28  #103

Quoting: Wroclaw
Do you get a kick out of insulting people ?


Simple answer - yes he does.



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Michal
  Aug 12, 07, 15:54  #104

No, it is a true story, this man exists and lives in Czestochowa yet lived in Sweden during martial law in Poland. He has a brother who lives in Chicago and he has been there too. I do not make things up. I was surprised because I too would have thought that a qualification from Jagiellonski would be valued everywhere, but apparently not.

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magda09
  Aug 12, 07, 15:58  #105

Quoting: Michal
qualification from Jagiellonski would be valued everywhere, but apparently not

only certificate dont shape a life... a person need to be on the right track. Many people succeed in business big time, and are just high school! .. and some big degrees fall short of enough food!... that is life.


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klondykened
  Aug 12, 07, 16:19  #106

they have no national identity! they have been bombed, invaded and occupied and their young men used as cannon-fodder by occupying forces (especially including Britain and America)so many times it is any wonder? it is a miracle there are any true poles left! Perhaps if they had some oil.......??? Bush and Blair would then invent some polish terrorist movement so that they could steal it !!! at least then the poles would have some freedom fighters to fight for their recognition !!!

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klondykened
  Aug 12, 07, 16:22  #107

OH!! this has come up on the wrong board hasn't it?? !!!!

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Grzegorz_
  Aug 12, 07, 16:23  #108

Quoting: klondykened
they have no national identity!


Who... ?


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klondykened
  Aug 12, 07, 16:46  #109

friend: Good old Giertych !!

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klondykened
  Aug 12, 07, 16:48  #110

follow the thread !!! read closely and you will recognise the country of which I speak !! Or are you being sarcastic ??

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Nic
Edited by: Nic  Aug 12, 07, 16:49  #111

Corrupt politicians, bureaucrats and businessmen are just fragments of the problem. Time is the big factor. People are still living in the 19th & 20th century. This is the 21st century and if you don't keep up with the times they will pass you by in a heartbeat. Politics and Business are not always the best of friends. However they need to work together for a better future. Now more than ever the people need to pull together to make sure things work. There comes a time when you have to Adapt, Improvise & Overcome the negetive elements. Regardless of country people need to quit picking on Religion and making it the villain. In Religion, Just like Politics and Business, you're bound to find a few bad apples on the tree.


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klondykened
  Aug 12, 07, 16:51  #112

Quoting: magda09
what you think is our biggest problem! our biggest negative


my comments connected to the above, sorry.

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Michal
  Aug 12, 07, 17:09  #113

Quoting: magda09
nly certificate dont shape a life... a person need to be on the right track.

Indeed, you are right. I person can be very well educated, intelligent with or without a good education but it does not mean that someone is highly skilled. This is why Australia always refers to its skill scales policy in determining future immigrants to its country as it wants young highly skilled entrants who are going to work for many years to come and contribute to the Australian welfare system.

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Eurola
  Aug 12, 07, 17:10  #114

Exactly. In a real life you can sue for libel...


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ogorek
Edited by: ogorek  Aug 15, 07, 13:50  #115

Quoting: Zeze
I live in Warsaw the center of the place and is boring as hell


Quoting: Michal
You have to remember that so much of it was destroyed in the last war


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ogorek
  Aug 15, 07, 14:05  #116

Quoting: Zeze
true true true !!!!!! and I live in Warsaw the center of the place and is boring as hell

Warsaw and it's people were sacrificed 60 years ago for honour and dignity.
Warsaw is now a place for the honorable and the dignified.
Maybe that's why you are bored - you child.


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BubbaWoo
Edited by: BubbaWoo  Aug 15, 07, 14:13  #117

Quoting: ogorek
Warsaw is now a place for the honorable and the dignified.


thats not what i heard... and evidence seems to suggest otherwise...

with all due respect ogorek

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Zeze [Guest]
  Aug 15, 07, 14:24  #118

Quoting: ogorek
Warsaw and it's people were sacrificed 60 years ago for honour and dignity.
Warsaw is now a place for the honorable and the dignified.
Maybe that's why you are bored - you child.

nothing to do with the topic there bro

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neogeo
  Aug 15, 07, 14:29  #119

poland's biggist problem r' its own people kids... a country's just as good as its people!

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neogeo
  Aug 15, 07, 14:30  #120

Give it to us Americans for a year n' we'll make yer country as good as gold

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