Poland Charges 7 in Afghan Killings

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/world/AP/story/307850.html


eat your damn words avjoe.. haha

The prosecutor said this and that. Already they seem to be guilty.

Why don't we wait for the defence to speak ?

isn't one presumed guilty until proven innocent in PL?

If government don't give any legal protection to soldiers in such cases then soon we will probably have a problem finding people willing to go to Afghanistan or Iraq.

No

what do you mean?


people? no.. cold blooded killers, i sure hope they won't volunteer anymore.

is there any doubt that the attack took place and that the soldiers charged we responsible for it?

the question seems to be if it was in response to aggression or not

:))) would be great

What ?

so soldiers shouldnt be prosecuted for suspected war crimes

It is revange for what I've said about USA ...

You asked a question and I answered it.

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

why is everyone so surprised this happened? they are in a country that has known nothing but lawlessness, the British and the Russians tried to "civilize" it and both failed, and now Polish troops are there playing Rambo in someone else's war where there is no conventional enemy, or more to the point-the enemy is indistinguishible from the civilians...so the boys panicked and got trigger-happy.

Unless It is proven that they were planning to kill unarmed people then they shouldn't be punished in any way.

i would imagine guilt or innocence will be determined during the prosecution and they will be punished, or not, accordingly... thats seems to be the normal way forward...

on the face that seems to be the case now.. but is it the reality? judged by your peers?

given that a colleague was killed in the village shortly before the alleged attack it sounds more like pre-meditated revenge rather than panicky trigger fingers...

what do you mean by 'what?' cold blooded killers who have been charged with murder.. as should be. polish or any other army doesn't need those kinds of volunteers. 'k?

I'm not sure how the courts work here.

Not everyone who is charged with a crime is found guilty. It might be wise to hear the evidence before pronouncing judgement.

An example of jumping straight in with opinions would be the 'terrorist' Menezes, who in fact turned out to be innocent.

How the hell do you know It ? You were there ? A fact that they were serving in Afghanistan until the end of the shift and arrested only a month after came back to Poland means that there is no strong evidences of any serious crime.

Why? Oh it musta been the Whole Polish Army Involved, wow how pathetic...

If they are found guilty they will see justice, as would anyone charged with murder. you FAIL

that's ok, you'll eat crow when they are found guilty.

with the BS you say about this you must be ok with the way germans conducted their operations in WW2.. look up Nuremberg trials sometime and then maybe we can talk.

if these soldiers are guilty they will not be the first to have committed war crimes in this conflict

If their found guilty their found guilty, Ive never denied the fact warcrimes have occured infact I acknowledged the fact they have and support the use of justice to administer suitable punishments for those involved.

However your frame of thinking shows that you generally think every enlisted soldier is a murdering brute. That said if Poland was attacked tomorrow you wouldnt hesistate you stand cowering behind these very men and women you seem contempt on labelling with the same misguided and misinformed brush.

Oh and I think I know quite enough about Nuremberg Trials to not put Nazi's and current serving soldiers in the same catergory...Im done talking with you anyway, its hard to educate someone so narrowminded and misguided.

If they commit the same crimes why not?
Every armed force has its psycho's,its just the nature of the beast of war,how else do you think you get vollunteers for dangerous misions,or indead snipers( come on,one job,blow peoples brains out...who but the slightly touched applies for that?) , the vast majority of soldiers are not psycho's though and should not be tarred with the same brush. Does it matter if the people doing the murdering are USMC ,WP or Blackwater,they should all hopefully rot in hell and share some of the blame for fuelling the levels of aggresion and retrebution against the rest of the armed forces that are trying to carry out very difficult jobs in the most humane way possible.

I like the phrase "war crime". It inherently creates the impression that wars are noble and fought along rules, like a jolly good game of cricket. Whilst perhaps it would be a truism to say that "war is a crime", in itself. So these poor polish grunts, lowest ranked squadies are there to be used if they die or live is irrelevant to the high command, they are expendable. Now you don't have to loose a limb or your life to gunfire, you can just as easily get shafted by your own. These boys are a sleight of hand by the government and media, expendable scapegoats. One wonders what truely horrific tales of woe are being cloaked by this realitively minor incursion.

Afganistan provideds the world with the spectacle of a place as hospital as the moon, with matching terrain, which the "united forces of the Lightside" can combat the "Luddite fanatics of jihad". Meanwhile heroin production grows year on year and the price is pushed lower and more addicts are insnared in the West. It was once quoted the J.Edgar Hoover suggested flooding the ghetto in the states with smack, thus quelling the civil rights and black conciousness movement, inject criminality into their hopes. Now it could be argued that this modus operandi has been mirrored across the West. And the principles of divide and rule and subdue and quell are being competently enacted. Meanwhile the UK forces provide a logistical courier service far superior to DHL, one whom can protect and fly directly into the UK and other allied bases through out Europe. As they say, "just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you."

more on this...

Polish soldiers accused of killing Afghan civilians
news.monstersandcritics.com/southasia/news/article_1373709.php/Polish_ soldiers_accused_of_killing_Afghan_civil

Nov 14, 2007, 15:47 GMT


Now, those who were just wounded, some Afghan women or so, are now being hospitalized in Poland for Polish money. Somehow i doubt its even true, its stinky, probably some Brit or American shot them and they blamed someone else. Considering that Poles are Slavs and considering that USA and Britain would like to deeply involve Poland in all their schemes.

This could be interesting for Polish public, considering that Poles pay taxes for Polish army which serve to American (who knows which) interests in Afganistan...

CIA-Contractor Christian Aviation Missionaries Smuggling Afghan Heroin

portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/02/333982.shtml




This is why Serbia choosing neutrality on current military alliances. NATO is dangerous adventure