"Poland's Concentration Camp"???

Harry I really enjoy reading your postings.
You have to be a very intelligent and well educated person in the real life.

Just my five cents to your lecture on Polish concentration camps.
The true is both Hitler and Himmler were Poles.
And frankly, running these camps is even today our favorite occupation only the bad EU - guys from Brussels make problems from time to time.

Huh? Did you 2(harry) go to the same school?

Close it. Permanently.

Liar. The camp was operated by NKVD (Soviets) and MBP (Poles). The prisoners were a mixture of Volksdeutsch and Armia Krajowa, with a few members of 'reactionary or criminal elements' thrown in for good measure. In other words: they were Poles.

Your countrymen operated concentration camps in which your countrymen were imprisoned. Deal with it.

Why. It should never be closed. It needs to serve as a reminder.


And WTF was MBP if not a soviet controlled gang?


Not so fast. The correct statement should be "some were Poles".
Back to the topic. What you have shown here is that communists have been the scourge of the Earth.


My family already has and, unlike you, they were able to move on. Some were prisoners in Auschwitz and other camps during WW2, you fool. Some were were prisoners in such camps after WW2, ands some escaped from transports to Siberia in 1940's.

And... ? Har, does It really turn you on so much... ? I wonder how that happens... What would have to happen to make me join let's say... Jewish forums, run all around the place writing about any negative aspects of Jewish histry - for example that nazi ghettos were in fact run by Jews and there were "Jewish police" guarding the walls, that most of commanders of Stalinistic genocidal secret services just after WW2 were Jews plus of course taking anti-Jew side in every possible case... what would that show ? Probably my love for Jews just like you show your love for the Poles in your posts on PFs. May God help you and make you leave behinde your sick xenophobia.

harry appears to be suffering from nothing more than a minor bout of phf syndrome

Did the Poles continue the german methods of using gases to kill Jews or did they add new methods to the repertoire?

Poland did not have concentration camps. "Nazi/Soviet" camps. End of story.

Please tell us about the 'sub-camp' you mention.

So where did you keep your Jews?

in the barn

Correction, Where did you keep the victim's? (Not all were Jewish) In Nazi Concentration camps , in occupied Poland.

Celinski open your mind.You have to provide a legitimate answer.The Germans leave Poland chased by red army and the Jews in concentration camps(the ones who remained) are freed(except the ones who were moved to german concentration camps).What did you do with them?
Tell for example.We gave them the opportunity to join the new dynamic state of Israel.This is a good answer.

Shot I thought they were in the US.

Tell sth like that.Do not let them mislead that you continued keeping them in concentration camps when the Germans left.

i don't think so. maybe you ought to read up on the AK, eh?

Let me be more exact: it should have been closed to new prisoners


A gang of Poles.


The vast majority were Poles. Seeing as your original statement was that the prisoners were German soldiers and now you say some were Poles, you have just admitted that some Poles fought for the Nazis. Oops.


Remind me: how many members did the Polish communist party have in 1956?



Ah yes. All the fault of the Soviets. All of the Poles working there were doing so at gunpoint. No guilt at all for any Poles. Dream on.

What about your pre-war concentration camp? Was that Soviet or Nazi run?


Jaworzno is the one which ran until 1956.


Those were death camps. We're talking about concentration camps.

you have no clue about any of this do you? shame, shame..

The figure I can find fastest is that in the 1970s the PZPR hd 3.5 million members. So z-dariusz is calling 3.5 million Poles the scourge of the Earth.

Harry do you understand Poland was taken over by COMMUNISM, yes I blame Soviets seeing that if you even spoke about there crimes they commited you were shot. As in dead. They were not living as a free Poland independent of Soviets. Even today there are pre 1989 within the goverment of Poland messing things up.

Harry, i bet there were even more commies in PL then but the thing you're missing that majority had to be so they could live. see celinski's post too.

ran by Solomon Morel.

Any kind of prison is a form of a concentration camp... Totalitarian regim imposed by foreign force and supported by ~5% of Poles was persecuting and killing Polish patriots and now according to you... we should do what, be ashamed of that... ? Har, you are not only Polonophobic, you are getting down to the level of primitive trolling...

holy cow.

Ah, we never ran any concentration camps, what are you smoking, Harry!?

The Jews and other concentration camps in OCCUPIED POLAND were freed. Some migrated to other countries, such as the US or Israel. In the 1960s, Communist controlled Poland wasn't very kind to Jews, and wouldn't allow them to come home to Poland...another story that is now part of another thread.

Communist controlled Poland wasn't very kind to anyone, and sucked up as many resources and manpower for RUSSIA's benefit, NOT for Poland's whatsoever.

What was the penalty for not running a concentration camp? All members of the MBP were volunteers.

Your 'I don't blame those Poles for doing that, they were only following orders' line is what is commonly referred to as the Nuremberg Defense. It went down very well at Nuremberg and at the trials of the German concentration camp and death camp guards. I assume that you also attach no blame to the GIs who massacred 500 civilians at My Lai and the torturers at Abu Ghraib, they were only following orders too.


So you are claiming that the penalty for not joining the PZPR was death? Very realistic.


Yes it was. Well done. Mr Morel was which nationality: a) German; b) Russian; c) Polish?

And Czesław Gęborski, the commander, of the Łambinowice camp for German Silesians (civilians) and former members of the Anders army was : a) German; b) Russian; c) Polish?


No. A prison is where criminals are locked up. But if the best defense that you have for the actions of your countrymen and the amnesia of your nation is saying that 'any prison is a form of concentration camp' we now know that you have no way to defend the actions or the amnesia.

Funny how bad Jews living in Poland are always called Poles, whereas good Poles of the Hebrew extraction are always called Jews. Never mind.

What some of you in this thread do not seem to understand is that the 2WW did not end in 1945 for quite a few countries - Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Yugoslavia to name just a few. Once the Germans were ousted, a power struggle began between the pre-war leadership and the new, communist, Soviet-supported one. This effectually meant civil war. Of course Poles killed Poles and Czechs killed Czechs. And it is remembered! That's the greatest tragedy of it all. While the world was rejoicing that the greatest atrocity in history had ended, the newly created Iron Curtain countries were still at it, while keeping up all pretences of normality and peaceful existence. The Armia Krajowa suffered terribly, having survived the war they were now being hunted down like rats, tortured and killed. If you spoke your mind, you disappeared. Pure and simple. People got killed for telling political jokes, for crying out loud. Why do you think 1956 means so much to the Polish? This was the first year after the war in which things returned to anything resembling "normal". And if you think Stalin's death had anything to do with this change, you are right. Please read a bit about Stalinism and its terrible legacy. A good start is "The Black Book of Communism" - not written by Poles, by the way.

No by me they aren't.

...so is Mr S. Morel Jewish after all?

did anyone actually clarify the difference between a jewish pole and a polish jew?