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POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country?


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z_darius
  Oct 30, 07, 15:00  #31

Quoting: Michal
The Poles are certainly Central European and are not really the same race as the Russians at all. The Russians are tougher

Lie expectancy: (females/males/avg)
Poland 75.6/71.3/79.8
Russia 65.5/59.0/72.6
Quoting: Michal
Russians came from Mongolia and probably therefore have more in common with the Turks

You need to brush up your IndoEuropean history.
Russians did not come from Mongolia. Mongols came from Mongolia and Ruled Russians for 300 year.
Quoting: Michal
That is why in 1945, Europe was saved by the Russians, almost single handedly.

Saved? Millions in Poland, Romania, Hungary, Estonia, Germany, Czechoslovakia etc, did not feel saved at all. As a matter of fact, in some of those countrie WW2 ended in 1989.


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Polson
  Oct 30, 07, 15:01  #32

Quoting: Grzegorz_
If you mean defeating Gerries then no doubt Soviet Union did much more than western allies


Hmm...didn't help the Poles a lot anyway...more cowards than saviours for Poland, but i must say they helped in the final victory (after having helped Germany...)...


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Polson
  Oct 30, 07, 15:05  #33

Quoting: z_darius
Lie expectancy: (females/males/avg)
Poland 75.6/71.3/79.8
Russia 65.5/59.0/72.6


Are you sure about the averages ? How the average life expectancy can be higher than those of men and women...?


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Michal
  Oct 30, 07, 15:20  #34

Quoting: Polson
life expectancy can be higher than those of men and women...?

Life expectancy has been falling in Poland for many years now and has nothing to do with World War 2 anyway.

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Grzegorz_
  Oct 30, 07, 15:21  #35

Quoting: Polson
(females/males/avg)


Probably avg/males/females


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Polson
  Oct 30, 07, 15:23  #36

Quoting: Michal
Life expectancy has been falling in Poland for many years now and has nothing to do with World War 2 anyway


Falling ?? I don't think so...I remember than ten years ago, men life expenctancy was 69 (if i remember well), now it's more than 71...

Quoting: Grzegorz_
Probably avg/males/females


...


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Grzegorz_
  Oct 30, 07, 15:24  #37

Quoting: Michal
Life expectancy has been falling in Poland for many years now


Only in your wildest dreams.


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Polson
  Oct 30, 07, 15:27  #38

Quoting: Grzegorz_
Only in your wildest dreams


Apparently ;)


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plk123
  Oct 30, 07, 15:31  #39

Quoting: Michal
the Russians came from Mongolia and probably therefore have more in common with the Turks.

Finn


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Michal
  Oct 30, 07, 15:32  #40

No, it is a well known fact that life expectancy is falling in Poland and other parts of eastern Europe. One reason why I do not want my children to live there.

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Edited by: polishgirltx  Oct 30, 07, 15:34  #41

Year Life Expectancy in Poland
2007 75.19
2006 74.97
2005 74.41
2004 74.16
2003 73.91
2002 73.66
2001 73.42
2000 73.19

Source: CIA World Factbook


Male only:
Year 1955 1960 1970 1980 1990 2000 2005 (prognosis) 2015 (prognosis) 2050

Life expectancy, Male
(Years) 58.6 63.2 66.9 67.0 66.9 68.6 69.8 72.0 76.9


Source: CIA World Factbook

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Polson
  Oct 30, 07, 15:36  #42

Quoting: Michal
No, it is a well known fact that life expectancy is falling in Poland and other parts of eastern Europe


You should know that Poland is not an Eastern European country... LoL (the subject of this topic...)

Quoting: Michal
One reason why I do not want my children to live there


What are you talking about ??! My grandma lived until the age of 79, a few months before being 80, and i have a great aunt who is 82 or more... ;)


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Grzegorz_
  Oct 30, 07, 15:36  #43

Quoting: Michal
No, it is a well known fact


No. It's only your wishful thinking, weird "man".


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Polson
  Oct 30, 07, 15:37  #44

Quoting: polishgirltx
Year Life Expectancy in Poland
2007 75.19
2006 74.97
2005 74.41
2004 74.16
2003 73.91
2002 73.66
2001 73.42
2000 73.19

Source: CIA World Factbook


Thanks polishgirltx ;)


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finT
  Oct 30, 07, 15:53  #45

Definately Eastern Europeans. One just has to live in West and East to figure that one out! Anyway, central is a kind of Austro-Hungarian outdated syndrome.

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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Oct 30, 07, 16:15  #46

Poland, being Slavic is part of true, authentic, original West

currently so called West is in fact false west, because natives there were uterly defeated in time before BC and later by hostile newcomers and, forced to abonden their Western/White heritage.

Just that Poland improve standard of living and all would recognize truth

Go Poland!


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Oscypek
  Oct 30, 07, 20:51  #47

Quoting: Michal
That is why in 1945, Europe was saved by the Russians, almost single handedly.


Don't forget about the massive U.S. aid that the USSR received from the U.S....

'Complete List of Lend Lease to Russia including atomic materials'

geocities.com/mark_willey/lend.html

U.S. Sherman Tanks given to Russia (there were a huge number of trucks also donated)

ww2incolor.com/gallery/Russian/russian_tanks


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plk123
  Oct 30, 07, 21:16  #48

Quoting: Crow
Poland, being Slavic is part of true, authentic, original West

that's the truth too.


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Michal
  Oct 31, 07, 14:51  #49

I would say that the Czech Republic is central Europe but not Poland.

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Polson
  Oct 31, 07, 15:00  #50

Quoting: Michal
I would say that the Czech Republic is central Europe but not Poland.


So let's say that the Western part of Poland is in Central Europe...but for me, the whole country is Central European.


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babylon2007
  Oct 31, 07, 15:12  #51

Having visited Poland a number of times, I noticed that some Polish did not like the term "Eastern Europe" to include Poland. Now I dont use this term any more. I just talk about Poland or Europe. The same way as I would not refer to other countries in Europe based on their geographical location. Poland is going to be a central country in the new Europe. Watch out North, South, East and West!

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Michal
  Nov 1, 07, 09:29  #52

I suppose that Poland, being in the middle, so to speak, can afford the 'hedge its bets' and knowing that the West is richer and is more able to help Poland economically, it is wiser to say 'we are part of the West' rather than siding with poorer Russia.

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Grzegorz_
  Nov 1, 07, 12:54  #53

Quoting: Polson
What are you talking about ??!


Kmiot proved wrong 150th time, so nothing interesting here. Move on.


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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Nov 1, 07, 12:59  #54

Quoting: Michal
I would say that the Czech Republic is central Europe but not Poland.


Russian philosopher Michal has spoken ... about Poland


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Polson
  Nov 1, 07, 13:21  #55

Quoting: Grzegorz_
Kmiot proved wrong 150th time, so nothing interesting here. Move on.


Yes, i guess.

Quoting: Lukasz
Russian philosopher Michal has spoken ... about Poland


So he's wrong, hehe ;)


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z_darius
Edited by: z_darius  Nov 1, 07, 13:23  #56

Quoting: Michal
I suppose that Poland, being in the middle, so to speak, can afford the 'hedge its bets' and knowing that the West is richer and is more able to help Poland economically

Russia being unable to steal from Poland is a step in the right direction in the first place.
Quoting: Michal
it is wiser to say 'we are part of the West' rather than siding with poorer Russia.

Yes. I hope you don't have a problem with that, as I'm sure you didn't have a problem with Russia accepting $979 million in from US in 2001, and $200 million from EU in 2000.

(how does that pot and kettle proverb go?)


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twathunter [Guest]
  Nov 1, 07, 13:38  #57

Michal were you always an idiot is this a talent you developed?

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Michal
  Nov 1, 07, 15:57  #58

Quoting: twathunter
Michal were you always an idiot is this a talent you developed?

Yes, I have worked very hard at it until I got my Equity card. It is illegal to copy my words and phrases as they are controlled by strict copyright. My writings are a skill which takes many years to perfect and this should not be tried at home without supervision.

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Michal
  Nov 1, 07, 15:59  #59

Quoting: z_darius
Russia being unable to steal from Poland is a step in the right direction in the first place.
Quoting: Michal

Russia has still got half of 'Old Poland' and that should suffice unless of course, Poland wants to buy it back!

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Michal
  Nov 1, 07, 16:14  #60

Quoting: z_darius
(how does that pot and kettle proverb go?)

like this, 'przyganial kociol garnkowi, a sam smoli'.

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