POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country?

Recognized as Central European, not Western.
Ashamed ? With dumb idiots like you telling sh!t, it'd be quite understandable.
Evidence ? You don't know what is Poland and we should believe what you say ? Poland is a mix of West and East (language, traditions, minds, etc.). I think the word "Central" suits more to Poland.

Germany is Central!
France West and Poland is East....where is the problem???

Where is the Czech Republic ? Austria ? And Ukraine's Odessa (Black Sea) ?
Odessa is as "Eastern" as Polish Stettin (German border, on the Baltic Sea) ?
No, Central is better, LoL ;)

Lol just because you listen to ****** rnb and hip hop. you have been outside the iron curtain for only 17 - 18 years and you think you have western influences that have made such an impact on your language, culture, history, ideology etc in such a short time.

Shut up and accept what you are - eastern european. The whole of the west regards you as eastern european wether through media, learning history or talking to each other about immigration the only people you are trying to fool are your selves. Keep wishing.

aint the queen german....

YOU shut up, you don't know what is Poland but enjoy so much spitting on it and its people, that is the only reason you are here (+ the fact that you don't have a life, there are things much more interesting that insulting nations). Yes Polish language has been influenced, yes Polish culture was and still is influenced, yes its history is mixed (don't think Poles feel closer to Russia than to Germany), did you know btw that Poland didn't want to be on that side of the Iron Curtain. And do you remember than the eastern part of Germany was also behind it, it doesn't make it an eastern country, does it ?
One last thing, Polish history started before WW2...i swear it's true :)



I won't "accept" it, as i don't think Poles are "eastern" Europeans. They were at the time of the Cold War. That's all. Once again, YOU regard them as eastern (and underdeveloped, foolish, inferior people), many of the today's westerners wouldn't range Poland as an eastern country. Whether YOU like it or not. End of the story, dude, go fishing, i dunno, do something else, stop giving us your racial views, it's obvious you're enjoying all this, but please, get a life, it's free ;)

It depends what classification you apply. If purely geographical position than Poland is as much central as Germany is. If you apply the post WWII division, than Poland is Eastern Europe together with half of Germany I'm afraid. :)

The term Eastern Europe is the legacy after Cold War and is pejorative. Somebody realized it in the west and I see that the EE countries are more and more often being called New Europe. (Ya old mugs! ;) ) Personally I don't mind the term EE. I think that there is a huge potential in this part of the world and with time this term would redeem itself but then again the way that you and noimmigration defend yourself from the sheer thought that Poland could be called Central European country makes me think...


noimmigration

you seem to claim that Polish culture is very different to the western one. Considering that the western Europe consists of Portugal as well as Wales I would like you to elaborate more on that. I'm looking forward to hearing from you especially about Polish literature and art. Might be quite an interesting read.

Tell me noimmigration, my darling, what right you think you have to discuss the culture, social relations, religiosity, mentality ANYTHING considering Poland? Have you ever been to my Homeland? Have you ever lived there, got to know the country from the inside? Do you know how Polish people live, what our newspapers write about or what is taught at our universities? By what right are you insulting me and all my compatriots, saying that we're foolish, primitive people? What the hell do you know about us? You think you're anonymous and you're giving vent to your national prejudices? What would you say if I stated that ******* Scots are only some insignificant nation subordinated by the English? Oh, and you have no identity, you don't even speak your language!
So, you think you can jeer at other nations only because you had the pleasure to hide on your sweet little island from all the enemies? Your knowledge is stereotyped, WESTERN european. You're SO narrow-minded, you idiot. If that's the way people are in your Promised Land - the UK, I'm not going there, even as a tourist.

OK, and I've got a question to you, darling, be so kind and tell me - insignificant, primitive EASTERN european person (or an animal, maybe?) - why do you hate Poles so much? Any substantial argument behind that this time?

Cheers.

Poland is definitely an eastern European country and the mentality of the people is very similar to the Russians. Poland is interested in western money to put the bloody country right. They have never had any interest in western culture or civilization.

I am from Ireland, all other parts of Europe are East

Michal, are you talking about western Poles or eastern ? Cause people from Warsaw have not the same mentality that those from Cracow for example.
Are the Portuguese so different ?

Just like you. Why else would you leave your home country and move to Britain and not e.g. to Albania or Burkina Faso ?

Just because you're a Russian turned Great-Briton it doesn't mean everybody with 'Russian mentality', as you were so generous to put it, follow your path.

No argument here, right on. (Except Iceland).

BULLSH1T, look at what all the newspapers regard poland as, listen to the westerns on the street. you are considered eastern european because you ARE. you have REFUSED to listen to solid evidence of this. United nations classifies you as eastern european and so does nato. get over do I have to post the map showing the united nations classifications again. do I have to show you all again.



my hard work has paid off

All that effort to discourage one person, was it worth it?

if it means one less polish toilet cleaner, on benefits getting housing allowance , nhs healthcare, education for their children etc then it was worth it.

All, really ? Please tell me what newspapers do you read ?



More and more people consider Poles as Central European, because there's a difference between Eastern Europe and Central Europe. Bulgarians are not like Poles, not at all. But, as you happily spit on both nations, you think they are the same.



Solid ? Haha. Sorry, your evidence is that Poles are undermen, not like Brits ?...
You seem to really like the United Nations....did you know they are not the only world organization ? If you check some others, you'll find some classifying Poland as a Central European country.



All what ? All the things you chose carefully and gave them to us as "evidence" ? Haha.

You have now made up my mind for me. A couple of mates of mine from Poland will be invited over in the near future.

You only read the Daily Mail, a known anti-immigrant newspaper.

Try broadening your perspective a little.



Yes I think I'll convince some relatives of Polish friends to come to the UK.

OK if you count the big danged portion of Russia as Europe that they show on a map of Europe nowadays, it is central. I think of Poland, Czeck Rep., Slovakia, Lith. Beluraus, Ukraine as Eastern Euro countries

You should brush up on your geography and check the traditional definition of Europe as continent. It stops at the Ural Mountains, and this is no newfangled notion.

We should take that too? You are mixing geography with politics.

I think the topic of this is wrong, it really depends what Eastern Europe means, geographical, political? and what that means? ex-eastern block countries. Is it a negative connotation with this phrase that has you all discussing if Poland is eastern or central?
The more east you go the more western Poland is, seriously.

Why is there so much fuss about it?
Poland is an Eastern European Country as far as the political and historical background goes. There is NOBODY in the world, I assure you who will hear the word "Poland" and will say to him/her-self: "Oh yeah, Poland is in CENTRAL Europe". No! They'll think of a former Soviet Satellite, Warsaw Pact, etc; EASTERN EUROPE.
That's the way it is and no matter how much some of you want to deny it, it's better to get used to it and work with it.
Trust me, I understand the reasoning behind your thinking and I simpathise, but it is what it is - Eastern Europe.

only in English world (USA UK ...)

I don't have the problem I can be eastern hehehhe :P lol :)

For some europeans UK isn't europe :P

I think it is important to change Polands palce in some countries. When "western european" country has tradegy everybody help them. 2000 people died in WTC it was tradegy, milions die in Africa, Eastern Europe, Asia their life is worth nothing. People form "western" europe prefere to protest in defence of animals life or promote vegetarian food. So when we talk about business it is better to be considered western.

By central Europe westerners usually mean Austria or Switzerland,anyway it is a vague term.

Why is there so much fuss about it?

Maybe, just maybe because the commie period lasted for over 40 years while the whole history of Poland is over 1000 years old.

But it's just a guess. :)

i would look at poland as central europe

The idea of Mitteleuropa contains all the lands which belonged to the former Austrohungary.This is the idea of central Europe.

Europe as a continent, by world standards, is pretty small. However, we all seem to think it's too big, so we break it down into Eastern and Western, then even East, Central and Western. Some prefer a North-South split, but we'll ignore that for now.

I propose to divide it even more into the following categories:

West Western Europe, Central Western Europe, Eastern Western Europe, Western Central Europe, Central Central Europe, Eastern Central Europe, Western Eastern Europe, Central Eastern Europe, Eastern Eastern Europe. In this system, I propose that Poland should be within Southern Northern Western Eastern Europe (Central).

Switzerland, Central ? What about Italy then ? ;) For me Switzerland is Western.



Parts of Poland belonged to Austrohungary actually ;)



Seems okay to me... ;)