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Poland 2007 Elections: PO Won, PIS second

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	Polanglik
	Oct 22, 07, 03:23 #91 Quoting: feral belcher Woe to the nation that succumbed to the power of liberal media. Woe to the nation that voted for a party which in 80% was against a legal protection of human life in The Constitution. Woe to the nation that gets rid of members of Parliament who defend faith and morality giving power to the supporters of abortion, euthanasia and the promotors of pervertion. Woe to the nation that trades it's independence for economic prosperity cooperating with Community which removed God and Christianity from their Constitution. Woe to the nation that doesn't support delegalization of abomination of pornography, occultyzm and satanism which flood the country. Woe to the nation drifting away from God and religion and their Christian roots. Woe to the nation that forgets about the vow to Mary on Jasna Gora. "Nation which kills their own children is a nation with no future" John Paul II is this by any chance a piece from Father Rydzyk (Radio Maryja) last sermon !!!!!!!	Member Posts: 562 Joined: May 16, 07

	Polanglik
	Oct 22, 07, 03:33 #92 Quoting: daffy Im delighted! go PO! :D Quoting: westvillage Good riddance Kaczynski, Kaczynski, Lepper and Giertych. Maybe now Poland will taken more seriously on the political scene, and not a laughing stock. Having the Kaczynski twins in charge was like having 'Bill and Ben' or Laurel and Hardy' leading the country ...... but having said that the latter would have done a better job !! Now we only have one Kaczynski to worry about !	Member Posts: 562 Joined: May 16, 07

	telefonitika
	Oct 22, 07, 04:15 #93 here is the current news coming in .... http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1289316,00.html and its featured here though the President Lech according to this article will seek to block many laws the new prime minister will action http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/22/wpolan d222.xml	Member Posts: 2393 Joined: Nov 25, 06

	BubbaWoo
	Edited by: Moderator Oct 22, 07, 04:25 #94 Quoting: telefonitika President Lech according to this article will seek to block many laws the new prime minister will action what a *****	Member Posts: 5315 Joined: Sep 26, 06

	telefonitika
	Oct 22, 07, 05:05 #95 Quoting: BubbaWoo what a ***** took the words out of my mouth bubba and President is still in power till 2010 i was thinking "why block something that will help the country grrrhhh" im not big on politics and never claim to be .. but if something is in favour and shows potential to make a worthy difference then why prevent it from happening ... Lech Walesa isnt impressed with the twins either from what i am reading and his son Jaroslaw is a running candidate with the Civic platform ... ...	Member Posts: 2393 Joined: Nov 25, 06

	jareck8 [Guest]
	Oct 22, 07, 05:10 #96 hopefully tusk will have a good economic policy,, i hope morals and values can stay... we are in europe but i think we should be respected to mainitan our own values.	Guest

	BubbaWoo
	Oct 22, 07, 05:19 #97 are these the same morals and values that pan potato is displaying when he threatened to veto crucial new laws - smacks of childish immaturity once a potato always a potato, thats what i say	Member Posts: 5315 Joined: Sep 26, 06

	Matyjasz
	Oct 22, 07, 05:24 #98 Quoting: BubbaWoo are these the same morals and values that pan potato is displaying when he threatened to veto crucial new laws - smacks of childish immaturity What laws are you exactly talking about Bubba?	Member Posts: 1513 Joined: Jul 20, 06

	jareck8 [Guest]
	Oct 22, 07, 05:25 #99 Quoting: BubbaWoo once a potato always a potato, thats what i say hes not that bad... the thing is evryone these days is running behind usa and uk and generally western values,,, kusic is fashionalbe, going out, enjoying enjoying so ovcourse people will not want to understand life the way it used to be... its about having a balance... the problems in uk are immense,, in poland thanks to soem people who are workign hard for the future we are still free of these defects.. but it doesnt look like the future will be bright... parents will not give their children time, rv and music is th enew schooling, gang wars, drugs, crime, fraud, materialism, rich get richer and poor get poorer...... yes in poland we will have freedom at teh expense of the family... woppeeee to freedom.. oh and dont forget sexual harrassment at work and the ise of aids and hiv and other sexually related diseases... good luck polska	Guest

	BubbaWoo
	Oct 22, 07, 05:29 #100 Quoting: Matyjasz What laws are you exactly talking about Bubba? Poland's centre-right opposition party Civic Platform has scored a crushing victory in the country's general election, ending the turbulent two-year reign of Poland's Kaczynski twins. "crucial laws" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/22/wpolan d222.xml and it doesnt get much more important than crucial	Member Posts: 5315 Joined: Sep 26, 06

	BubbaWoo
	Edited by: BubbaWoo Oct 22, 07, 05:32 #101 Quoting: jareck8 drugs, crime, fraud, materialism, rich get richer and poor get poorer...... this is poland today - and lets be clear that 'the west' is not forcing their values on poland, poland is clamoring to get whatever they can...	Member Posts: 5315 Joined: Sep 26, 06

	sledz
	Oct 22, 07, 05:36 #102 Quoting: jareck8 ovcourse Quoting: jareck8 soem Quoting: jareck8 workign Quoting: jareck8 diseases... noe if wege to axe me tak, imboared:)	Member Posts: 2700 Joined: Sep 19, 06

	jareck8 [Guest]
	Oct 22, 07, 05:39 #103 Quoting: BubbaWoo this is poland today - and lets be clear that 'the west' is not forcing their values on poland, poland is clamoring to get whatever they can... actua;;y paul wfowitz is part of an organisation that says we will make the whole world like us... check ot out... through tv, music, radio people r being forced to lear about the great americans.... its half and half.... poland for many many years has kept close to its religios spritualitty... this will continue..	Guest

	Matyjasz
	Oct 22, 07, 05:52 #104 Quoting: BubbaWoo and it doesnt get much more important than crucial Certainly, it doesn't get any crucial than crucial. :) But you have to agree that the term "crucial" does sound a little bit enigmatic... but OK, have it your way. Just as a side note, I would like to add that the UK not only threatened, but actually did veto a new EU law in the past, the last time being during the mad cow issue. Plus, if by crucial laws you mean the European constitution, than it's also worth saying that while Poland disagreed with one point in it, UK disagreed with four of them. Still, I do agree that Kaczyński's hard-line politics and his "die for the square root voting system", "die for whatever else" attitude was very.... eghmmm.. unfortunate one. :)	Member Posts: 1513 Joined: Jul 20, 06

	Polson
	Oct 22, 07, 06:07 #105 Quoting: jareck8 oh and dont forget sexual harrassment at work and the ise of aids and hiv and other sexually related diseases Wow, i didn't think a change of government could do that...PLEASE !!! Stop telling these kind of crap ;)	Member Posts: 3032 Joined: May 9, 07

	jareck8 [Guest]
	Oct 22, 07, 06:29 #106 Quoting: Polson PLEASE !!! Stop telling these kind of crap ;) great level of intelligence you have, education is a key, this new govenrment has educated the public on serious issues, which are connected to how to live your lives,, short term beenfits long term losses that is the name of the game.. .this goveenrment is workign hard to educate us and explain what is right and what is not... its hard to realise but there are certain laws in the world and if you follwo them its good for you if u dont then its not... now come on lets hear you rebel... think my friend use your gifts wisely	Guest

	Polson
	Oct 22, 07, 06:45 #107 Quoting: jareck8 great level of intelligence you have Thanks... Why do you think this government would be bad for Poland ? Nohing is perfect, but there are a lot of points very interesting in their program, and i'd really like to see what's gonna happen ;)	Member Posts: 3032 Joined: May 9, 07

	jareck8 [Guest]
	Oct 22, 07, 06:56 #108 Quoting: Polson Thanks... Why do you think this government would be bad for Poland ? Nohing is perfect, but there are a lot of points very interesting in their program, and i'd really like to see what's gonna happen ;) i ilike the new boys but we didnt give justice party a chance... the communists damaged the nation and hence the effect is high unemployment rate but now polish companies are doing well business is improving and it will take time, trade with asian nations is on the rise and generally the mood is changing,, but lets see what happens	Guest

	Polson
	Oct 22, 07, 07:11 #109 Quoting: jareck8 but lets see what happens Agree ;)	Member Posts: 3032 Joined: May 9, 07

	randompal
	Oct 22, 07, 09:53 #110 Quoting: jareck8 we didnt give justice party a chance we gave them a chance and they caused shame and embarassment to many Poles. Say what you want, but any party who openly supoported the public financing of a very expensive and elaborate super-church (Swiątynia Bożej Opaczności)while the highways are falling apart (and new ones not being built) deserves to lose an election.	Member Posts: 455 Joined: Jul 10, 07

	randompal
	Oct 22, 07, 09:55 #111 Quoting: Polanglik Woe to the nation that succumbed to the power of liberal media. Woe to the nation that voted for a party which in 80% was against a legal protection of human life in The Constitution. Woe to the nation that gets rid of members of Parliament who defend faith and morality giving power to the supporters of abortion, euthanasia and the promotors of pervertion. Woe to the nation that trades it's independence for economic prosperity cooperating with Community which removed God and Christianity from their Constitution. Woe to the nation that doesn't support delegalization of abomination of pornography, occultyzm and satanism which flood the country. Woe to the nation drifting away from God and religion and their Christian roots. Woe to the nation that forgets about the vow to Mary on Jasna Gora. Woe to the nation that neglects its infrastructure and doesn't extend its third-world highway network...	Member Posts: 455 Joined: Jul 10, 07

	randompal
	Oct 22, 07, 10:03 #112 Quoting: Grzegorz_ Tusk will lick Gerries' ass. some may beg to differ. having cordial and business-like relations with a neighbour (despite a bad past) is good politics, not licking ass. unlike some, who lick the ass of the US so shamelessly that we look like either grovelling fools or awestruck cooing babies who drool at the sight of a fancy fighter plane..	Member Posts: 455 Joined: Jul 10, 07

	jareck8 [Guest]
	Oct 22, 07, 10:53 #113 Quoting: randompal we gave them a chance and they caused shame and embarassment to many Poles. Say what you want, but any party who openly supoported the public financing of a very expensive and elaborate super-church (Swiątynia Bożej Opaczności)while the highways are falling apart (and new ones not being built) deserves to lose an election. dont forget about the money in hospitals and education... well anyway woe to the nation that spends money on buying guns and bombs and cannot even control gun crime and drugs in its own country... fair enough they built a church but other places build thngs like casinos, night clubs, millenium dome,,,, atleast the justc put some money where it needed to go... they were strict on corruption... the communists spoilt the country it will obvessly take time to sort it out... well anyway they can work with tusk he's not to far away from what they r thinkin...	Guest

	hello
	Oct 22, 07, 10:57 #114 As predicted, about 80% of Poles in the US voted for PIS; about 80% of Poles in the UK voted for PO. That's interesting. I wonder if the immigration to the UK will stop soon and how many Poles would actually come back to Poland.	Member Posts: 1234 Joined: Dec 5, 06

	jareck8 [Guest]
	Oct 22, 07, 11:02 #115 Quoting: hello As predicted, about 80% of Poles in the US voted for PIS; about 80% of Poles in the UK voted for PO. That's interesting. I wonder if the immigration to the UK will stop soon and how many Poles would actually come back to Poland. it shows that even if we are abroad we still are happy to identify ourselves with what makes us polish	Guest

	Osiedle_Ruda [Guest]
	Oct 22, 07, 11:09 #116 Quoting: Matyjasz PO wins. I'll drink for that. :)) Me too... and I don't even drink. lol. At last, Poland tells the twins to PiS off. :) Now, when do we get the chance to do the same to Bliar and Brown...	Guest

	randompal
	Oct 22, 07, 11:18 #117 Quoting: hello As predicted, about 80% of Poles in the US voted for PIS; about 80% of Poles in the UK voted for PO. That's interesting. It's predictable-the Polish community (and I have known many of them personally) in the States is old-fashioned and anachronistic. That is the stereotype of the PiS electorate...	Member Posts: 455 Joined: Jul 10, 07

	FISZ
	Edited by: FISZ Oct 22, 07, 11:19 #118 What did PiS offer to PL Americans? Why would 80% vote PiS?	Member Posts: 3171 Joined: Jun 14, 06

	jareck8 [Guest]
	Oct 22, 07, 11:21 #119 Quoting: randompal That is the stereotype of the PiS electorate... you will axctually be surprised when there are local meetings, i know in lublin there is support and gdansk not sure about the other places - but yes when somebody sticks to their ideology they are called 'old fashioned'.. maybe thats what will happen to the american thinking in 30 years time.. treating people unfairly will be old fashioned!	Guest

	randompal
	Oct 22, 07, 11:24 #120 .. Quoting: jareck8 well anyway woe to the nation that spends money on buying guns and bombs and cannot even control gun crime and drugs in its own country is this a reference to the USA or Poland? there are few guns here in Poland and no more drugs than any other industrialised country...	Member Posts: 455 Joined: Jul 10, 07

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