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How does Poland imagine other countries see her?


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Michal
  Aug 3, 07, 19:27  #31

Quoting: dannyboy
hat I would like to know is - are Polish people aware of this or do they imagine that Poland is central in the mind of Western E

As they are always going on about the war, I imagine that they do see themselves as very central in Europe. As you start to visit the country, which no doubt you will be doing in the future if your relationship continues is that the Poles never take responsibility for anything. There are no birds sing at Oswiecim-that is the fault of the Russians. Their Syrenka cars is the fault of the Americans and the boarder is the fault of Churchill and so it goes on with them.

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ogorek
  Aug 3, 07, 20:45  #32

Quoting: Michal
Poles never take responsibility for anything.


If it's somebody elses fault - you blame them. It's a simple as that.
It's not Polands fault that it has been f****d up the *ss so many times.

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Eurola
  Aug 3, 07, 21:04  #33

Ogorek, don't even bother with this kmiot. There is something really wrong "under the roof".

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Michal
  Aug 4, 07, 04:06  #34

Quoting: Eurola
gorek, don't even bother with this kmiot. There is something really wrong "under the roof".

Obviously you really love Poland. How many thousands of miles have you traveled to get away from the place? Dziesiec tysiesy mil?

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Michal
  Aug 4, 07, 04:26  #35

Quoting: Eurola
gorek, don't even bother with this kmiot.

The word kmoit was not even your word so if you can not think of anything original stay silent.

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magda09
  Aug 4, 07, 05:41  #36

polish people usually dont imagine that other country know her so well :)

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Michal
  Aug 4, 07, 09:03  #37

I know Poland very very well indeed. I have tasted all its nasty little secrets.

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ogorek
  Aug 4, 07, 09:09  #38

examples?

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Puzzler
  Aug 4, 07, 09:15  #39

re: I know Poland very very well indeed. I have tasted all its nasty little secrets

- If a psychopath like you vilifies Poland, one who has got brains should assume that Poland must be quite a decent place. See, nobody cares to ask you about those alleged 'nasty little secrets' of the Poles. How about your ethnic group - what dirty nasty secrets do you conceal, e.g. by vilifying the Poles, creep? What did you do in commie 'Poland'? How did you get out of there? What did you study in Moscow? Why do you hate the English people so much that you pretend being one of them in order to spread hate between the English and Poles?
:)

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Puzzler
  Aug 4, 07, 09:25  #40

re: As they are always going on about the war, I imagine that they do see themselves as very central in Europe.

- Why would 'going about the war' mean that one sees oneself as 'very central in Europe'?

re: the Poles never take responsibility for anything

- For example?

re:. There are no birds sing at Oswiecim-that is the fault of the Russians

- What do you mean by this?

re: Their Syrenka cars is the fault of the Americans

- So Poles allegedly say that their Syrenka cars (produced during communism) were the fault of the Americans? Who specifcally said that, alllegedly? Give pertinent quotes.

re:and the boarder [sic] is the fault of Churchill

- Do you mean the Poles allegedly say that the Polish border (?) is the fault of Churchill alone? Which Poles allegedly say this? Give quotes.

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ogorek
  Aug 4, 07, 09:52  #41

Quoting: Puzzler
There are no birds sing at Oswiecim-that is the fault of the Russians


That would be the fault of the Germans for creating so many Jewisg ghosts that scare
the birds away. However, birds do sing at Oswiecim - it's only a myth.

Quoting: Puzzler
the Polish border is the fault of Churchill


Stalin and Roosevelt changed the borders - which are actually very close the
the very earliest original borders of Poland.

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Michal
  Aug 4, 07, 11:24  #42

Quoting: ogorek
examples?

How the people are so fickle and two-faced for one.

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Michal
  Aug 4, 07, 11:25  #43

Quoting: Puzzler
e:and the boarder [sic] is the fault of Churchill

When I was in Moscow I heard nothing else. "Churchill sold Poland to the Russians". I was reminded of the fact at least three times a day.

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Eurola
  Aug 4, 07, 11:53  #44

Quoting: Michal
Dziesiec tysiesy mil?


It's 10000 km, not miles. And, I left because of sh**ty government and luck of opportunities, not because I hated Poland and its people. I also don't spread hatred, unlike you, which seems to be your mission in life, a low life I shall add. I can also use the word kmiot as many time as I want, it suits you perfectly.
Finally, you can silence your wife, if she lets you, not me.

On the topic, many people in the US who never traveled abroad, still think that most of the world lives in huts with straw roofs, not only Poland. Poland as a communist country is still deeply engraved in everybody's mind. It is slowly changing, however.

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Michal
  Aug 4, 07, 12:18  #45

Quoting: Eurola
e word kmiot as many time as I want, it suits you perfectly.
Finally, you can silence your wife, if she lets you, not me.

At least I will be famous for something then.

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Lady in red [Guest]
  Aug 4, 07, 12:22  #46

Michal isn't English born.........his English may be good but it is not his native language.......i can tell .

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Eurola
  Aug 4, 07, 12:27  #47

Quoting: Lady in red
Michal isn't English born.........

I pointed this many times...born and raised in Poland, and he calls his parents "foreign", so what you expect.... :)

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Daisy
  Aug 4, 07, 12:29  #48

Quoting: Lady in red
his English may be good but it is not his native language.......i can tell .


he uses American spelling, today for instance gray instead of grey

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Lady in red [Guest]
  Aug 4, 07, 12:29  #49

Quoting: Eurola
I pointed this many times...



Yes and you were right :)

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Michal
  Aug 4, 07, 12:32  #50

Quoting: Eurola
inally, you can silence your wife, if she lets you, not me.

I have no intention of trying to shut you up. I have no interest whatsoever in anything a Polish woman has to write. In my experience they all talk rubbish.

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Daisy
  Aug 4, 07, 12:35  #51

Quoting: Michal
In my experience they all talk rubbish.


well your wife did the day she took her marriage vows

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Eurola
  Aug 4, 07, 12:39  #52

And now, he hates polish women too, poor wife of his.

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Michal
  Aug 4, 07, 12:39  #53

Quoting: Eurola
On the topic, many people in the US who never traveled abroad, still think that most of the world lives in huts with straw roofs, not only Poland. Poland as a communist country is still deeply engraved

I will also add that my American cousin, who lives now in Las Vegas, has traveled the whole world and has run trade delegations in China and in other places all over the world all of his working life. There are a lot of well educated men in the United States and well traveled people too and to say that they think that the rest of the world lives in huts is really very stupid of you. You are obviously not very well educated. I have read quite a lot of things on this forum and I can see why most people soon give up and leave. Even in the few months I have been reading entries so many good people have resigned and gone for good. All that is left are a few lonely single women. Anyway, I am off to the kitchen 'u nogi' to make myself a strong cup of tea, it to me nice!

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Michal
  Aug 4, 07, 12:41  #54

Quoting: Eurola
And now, he hates polish women too, poor wife of his.

I have met hundreds in Poland and no, to tell you the truth, they are not very nice as you must know yourself, otherwise you would be living in Poland yourself and not have an American zip code as an address for the last twenty seven years.

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Eurola
  Aug 4, 07, 12:44  #55

I said many, not all Americans. Many are indeed well traveled and wonderful people to be around and work with. And, luckily this is my circle. Not Tesco.

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krysia
  Aug 4, 07, 12:46  #56

Quoting: Michal
I am off to the kitchen 'u nogi'

I can see this 'u nogi' thing is really aggrevating you. Sorry, I wasn't Polish born.

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Lady in red [Guest]
  Aug 4, 07, 12:50  #57

Quoting: Michal
In my experience they all talk rubbish.



Yeah, but your experience is like decades ago.......

and I would suspect, many Polish women would think you 'talk rubbish'

I know who I would put my money on to be right !!!

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Lady in red [Guest]
  Aug 4, 07, 12:50  #58

Quoting: Daisy
your wife did the day she took her marriage vows


lol

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Lady in red [Guest]
  Aug 4, 07, 12:51  #59

Quoting: krysia
I can see this 'u nogi' thing is really aggrevating you.


lol

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Eurola
  Aug 4, 07, 12:53  #60

Quoting: krysia
I can see this 'u nogi' thing is really aggrevating you.


I second that! lol.

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