Why does Poland love the US?

as to history American president Wilson or Reagan is better example of USA supporting Poland.



WWII is more complicated issue because after Germans we had Russians in our country.



We know something about bad choices in elections ...

Two great men in that pic lukasz.They dont make 'em like that anymore.
(is it bad taste to say the Holy Father look to be about to start a Rap?)

Why does Poland love the US?

Because Poles can come here and make more than $3 an hour for their work.

Well he does got the bling. ;)

As for the proper topic, USA had helped us regained independency two times in one century. If that’s not a reason to like them than there are still Ramones and Misfits. :)

Ha ! when hitler tried to invade russia.. it was too late. He got bogged down by the russian winter that had set in ( some say it was due to greece resistance against mussolini :) ). Soviets had a bigger impact in defeating hitler than the US. I know that is something that is not well known in the states.

My intention is not too take anything from the US involvement in WW2, just to straighten out the facts.



Lol ! read again. i didnt make the mistake..

Franek - Respect !

Ok, so now i know Polish ppl love the US due to their involvement in support against the wars and communism.

But dont you guys think blood is thicker than water ?

Beverly hills 90210! They beleive it's real!

edited coz I was being a show off again.....

They certainly suffered greater losses of men and women and destruction of infrastructure. The US, on the other hand, had minimal infrastructure losses.

Hitler was certainly a idiot for invading the USSR.

I read that the USA was the only country to come out of WW2 with a profit.

I imagine Switzerland did alright too ;)
seriously though,if the US did come out with a profit they ploughed plenty back into helping post war reconstruction around the globe.

Bunch of w@nkers the Swiss. I dont know how anyone can be proud of being Swiss when their history is not only one of cowardice but of war profiteering and outright thievery. A country whose entire affluence is based on turning a blind eye and not asking why all that gold is in the shape of human teeth.

They're supposed to be rude fukcers too. Though not as bad as the Austrians.

Franek here again,promised myself to stay out of this discussion. But the more I read the more PI**ed I become. ( America profited from the WW2) Bull S**T, AMerica financed WW2 Where do you think thst the war materials came from? We supp;ied RUSSIA,BRITIAN and all other Allies with them. Yeah,sure we got rich from the war. What about the reconstruction of Europe after the war. IT WAS AMERICAN MONEY.Ya"ll ever hear of the Marshal plan? Look it up. It;s on google. It looks like Expatroits history teacher escaped his coockoos nest again.

Quite a profit, indeed: 418,000 dead (much less than the USSR's 23,000,000), but none the less devasting to many families.

American taxpayers paid for the war twice. First for the bombs to blow up Nazi and Japanese military sites and strategic targets, and then to rebuild the infrastructure via the Marshall Plan.

As far I know, the only profit we got was some pretty war brides the GIs brought home.

From what I have studied, it was WWI that made a profit for the US because of loans made to other countries.

WWII helped in other ways, like upgrading factories that got retooled for war production, and the workplace was changed by allowing women to do jobs that had been reserved for men. Plus we got a lot of great patents stolen from Germany after the war, and some scientists too.

I don't know how the US would have made money from WWII.....haven't heard that before.

Franek here again.
After WW2, Poland was left in shambles. Families were torn apart,there was no food. Guess who helped out..? The good old USA. Grains were shipped to poland so bread could be made to feed the hungry. Polish American sent care packages to those left behind. There were clothes,food medicin and the US dollar.. In those days it went a long way..There was not a week that went by that I would'nt go to the post office to send a package.
America is a melting pot. Clothes were donated by many ethnic people. This is how America grew to be a mighty nation,we all pulled together. We all pulled our own weight. We never whined or cried.. We did something about it.
AMERICA is a good country. Why does everyone expect us to do it all.
There was a saying after WW2. LEST WE FORGET That was so we would remember the horror years.

One example:
http://abundance.org.uk/the-profits-of-abundance-and-war-sketching-a-h istory-of-the-american-century-part-iv

The USA plundered the riches plundered by the axis powers and their technological advances, often times appropriating the scientists and engineers involved

Also the USA basically sat back and made huge amounts of capital by
1. supplying food to a Britain that was starving
2. Getting rid of obsolete shipping in exchange for a number of military bases.
3. Selling fuel and steel and other minerals to the Axis forces that were then used to kill their own soldiers, as well as the eastern 'allies'.

Overall the US's position in the world in relation to the other pre-WW2 powers was massively strengthened. Her military and economic infrastructure was strengthened whilst everyone elses was either weakened drastically or destroyed.

So yes, I do think the US made good out of WW2.

I beg to differ Franek...Nobody wants the USA to do it all. I personally want them out of Europe completely. How long must they stay ? The marshall plan was an ingeniuos way to solidify US influence in europe away from home...in other words..to gain a grip in Europe. The US today is a destabalizing factor on the world stage. Its sad but true. The good ol boys are long gone. Now we got ppl like GW Bush, Halliburton, and reckless Neocons... Maybe Obama can really change it, like the way it used to be...

Kilkline - agreed completely. Those are facts...

lol - the great american misconception

wasnt the greatest time for poland when we were teamed up with our neighbors ? Albeit, it was quite a while ago poland - lithuanian union ( most powerful empire in europe in that time )...doesnt that say something ?

There is no point for poland to be US servant for ever...they never did do anything EXCEPTIONAL for the country. I still believe an eastern slav union would be in our best interest..thats probably why the US is pushing so hard for ex commie countries into nato. divide and conquer, as usual...

Greetings..I am Greek, i have polish girlfriend and first time i am writing here...

The fact is that right now Poland is the tail of Usa..I am not speaking about people but about goverments, i was expecting this to end when Tousk became prime minster but no.I can understand that you have some benefits from americans but i think you will have more negatives...What do you think Russia will do anything against USA, no Russia will try to ''punish'' Poland let's say with trade difficulties (like polish meat) and other..What Poland wanted to Iraq? Polish are not conquerors they are peaceful and nice people why they are occupation army? If my country (that we now from tyrrans, occupation armies etc) dare to sent army to Iraq i would be demonstrating every day ... i am not reading anything that Poles want their troopers back...The point is to have EU strong and not to have USA among us divining us

then have your soldiers back, however don't expect anybody to have your back when you need help :) you'de be the first to complain if one day the Turks decided it was time to move in and the EU just stood back and said 'sod them we'll leave them to it, they didn't support us why should we support them'

Yawn...

if your tired greg you could always go to bed for a sleep :)

But we don't have troops at Iraq...
Iraq war is only for petrol and not to liberate iraq people...and about Tourks, nobody wants them in EU. If it is only us to block them we will...But you didn't answer to me why Poland should sent troops to Iraq? For what reason ?

To get some practise in.

why should poland send troops to Iraq, well thats pretty simple, its part of the EU and infact probably a member of the UN and NATO. Terrorism is a GLOBAL threat so that is why polish troops should be deployed in areas where there is terrorists or terrorism.

isn't the question actually, why shouldn't poland send troops???

It would be nice answer for practice :P

But no the answer is not why Poland shouldn't sebd troops, they were saying that Sadam had nuclear, that he had toxics and mass destraction weapons, where are all these? Global threat yes , i don't have any other opinion about this. so we will strike first, without evidences for the posibility of not being hit from terorrism...When Poland had problems with terrorists? And from our side (west) they are terorosts from their side (arabs ) USA is terorist and fo me too USA is the biggest terorist...The point is that now your army there is occupation army, it isn't?

ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer ?

uuuummm the US Army is not mine, i'm British, so lets get that clear.

Secondly these weapons of mass destruction, who cares, without them Saddam needed removing from power, so do a few other dictators around the world, there is one in zimbabwe i can think of for sure :). If your not against the terrorists and willing to fight them, then where the heck are you, with them?? THe commitment to fighting terror is a global affair and not just on the shoulders of the USA and GB.

As far as striking first against terrorists, why not?? whats wrong with that, do you want us to sit back and let it happen and then react. In all walks of life it is better to be pro active rather than re-active.


typical softy softy approach, you are blinded by the uniforms, the invasion is real yes but so is the invasion of terrorists, they don't wear uniforms, they don't have signs on their helmets, damn they don't even wear them. So don't talk about who and who is not the terrorists :)


so then practise, i've told you in two posts why poland should send troops, so tell me why they shouldn't???

Poland must not have troops because :

1) Killing inocent peole for profit (see petrol )
2) Having war supposetly for preventing terrorist hits
3) Being away from your country ,when nobody asked you
4) People that you liberate from one dictator, don't need an other one multi national
5) Be an occupation army

Maybe USA and England they can do these things , because they are putting first profit and after lifes.But if you havw passed from occupation and fight for your liberation you don't want to be tha same like the one that you were fighting.We have seen if USA is terorist or not, see war with serbia, bombing hospitals and trains. And answer me this.When Poland had problems before with arabs or muslims ?