Poland - a more and more Investable Country

Oh well many thanks to Poland that I live in a free and happy country then... good night.

Not a wearer of glasses lef... rose tinted or other... i dont believe i have ever claimed things to be all rosy in poland... just that i enjoy my time their... and i am fully aware of what life is like in the real world... i live in it afterall...

...the amount people earn is relative to the comparative cost of living in their country... people might earn more in hard currency in the uk but life also costs them a hell of a lot more of their earnings...

i may well be lucky... but what i can buy with a little bit of money in poland wont even buy me a garage in the uk... a beach hut would be out of the question... hell... i probably couldnt even afford a cupboard in parts of london...

...and lets not forget that the english are a nation living on credit... our *western* way of living costs... if if the average brit wants to have a little taste of this life then they have to borrow...

our property has boomed in the uk too... and if you havent gotten on the ladder yet then good luck to you... this is living in the real world my friend... been there... done that... whilst poland was still wondering what its like to live in a free economy... and now you do... its sink or swim... instead of critising us... learn from us... coz weve been playing the game a hell of a lot longer than you...

and lets take another look at the real world... britain has been innundated with poles in the last two years... all looking for a better opportunity... and good luck to them... but if few brits come over to poland and buy a few houses... well mate... fair dinkums in my books... we arent going to take over poland... hell... the average brits struggles to pay their mortgage... if they are lucky enough to afford one... just as in poland...

you know what... how sad would it be if ola had the last laugh... poland and its people have a hell of a future in front of them... if they learn how to play the game... but lets not forget that until just a few years ago poland was living in a different world... they have to learn the rules of the new ame before they can even hope of playing in it...

I most be living amonst the fairies, but in england people can survive on there income, in poland most struggle from week to week.
I've notice that some food items in poland are more expensive than they are in oz. just a few things that come to mind is petrol/sugar and beer.



I agree, if you like the polish way of life, your in the box seat to get a good deal.

...and lets not forget that the english are a nation living on credit... our *western* way of living costs... if if the average brit wants to have a little taste of this life then they have to borrow.

Well stand by this will soon hit poland in the same way it has hit all western countries, people will be working for the banks and GE just to have somewhere to live in.



I'm just stating my point of view, I don't doubt that some people have made a lot of money and lots will continue to make a lot of money, I doubt if the average pole will see much benefit, apart from a invitation to join the mortgage club, and be at the mercy of the ruthless banks.



True, they should go at there own pace and ensure all polish reap the benefit not just the entrepreneurs who have no interest in poland apart from making a quick dollar and then move on.

I'm sure the polish people whould welcome any person who has a genuine reason for living in poland

lef... many many people struggle from week to week in england... believe me... which is why so many of them are burdend with debt...

UK debt is double europe average

Total UK personal debt has exceeded £1 ¼ trillion and at the end of November 2006 it stood at £1,278bn. The growth rate increased to 10.4% for the previous 12 months which equates to an increase of ~ £111bn.

Source: http://www.creditaction.org.uk/debtstats.htm




last time i was in poland - just before christmas - i worked out i could drink 12 beers there for the price of 4 here and smoke 100 cigarettes for the price of 20

they dont call it rip off britian for nothing... we have to pay them



respected

Carn't pay that one old boy, wages in GB are probally 10 more than in poland, and polish cigarettes, who in there right mind would smoke a polish cigarette sorry no offence, As a matter of interest cigarettes in oz as I suppose in the UK are heavily taxed (half goes directly to hospitals) a pkt of 30cigarettes cost about $9 approx 20zl


Still think Poland is great, interested in your opinions on real estate in poland

This site sometimes bores me with peoples ignorance. also this constant harping over the past, boring, dull. get over it.

Also people are constantly attaching countries policies over the last hundred years to individuals.

Here we go I don't care about the past because its done. I'm not too bothered about the long term future. I don't wanna save the world.

I do want to get as much money and property together so my future kids will have a better life than me. Simple.

I'm gambling on a better future in Poland, mabye I'll be wrong, who knows, and who ultimately really cares?

Such people like you (who have money and live most of the times abroad) jack up the prices of properties in Poland :). They invest with a short-term goals and quick gains. I understand it, but I'm sorry for those Poles who work their butts off to buy a property and then they will realize they are going to make 10% on it during a several-years period (and they hoped they would make 100% or so).

This statement should be stressed as it is a very valid and meaningful point. Common people and actions taken out by their governments shouldn't be mixed.



In this I don't believe you. The history of our countries has it's huge impact on our life’s, and after reading many of your posts I honestly don’t think that you have no interest in history and politics. But I do see why you could feel tired by some topics that seem to come back again from time to time. I have my opinion on this subject, but it’s too late to write anything about it. Maybe next time.

Oh....for sure we are cowards compared to others including Poland.

I admire the fact you're patriotic. I've spent a lot of time in Poland and there is one thing I'm sure about. We (the Brits) would be moaning a hell of a lot more if we'd had to put up with all that Poland have. We'd be banging on about it today, how tough things have been for us, how everyone abandoned us.

Poland and, in my view Polish people, need to do a lot now to make sure they keep going forwards. They tend to accept (and give) bad service far too easily. There are a great deal of opportunities for the smart ones. I actually believe the smart ones don't leave Poland. Starting a business, having a god business idea, is much easier in Poland right now. The problem in England is you have to ind a market that is not saturated already. I've seen some interesting and profitable businesses start in Poland, making an immediate profit based on a simple idea. that's almost impossible in the UK unless you're very very good or very lucky.

However, one thing Poles should not be criticised fot is the way they deal with their history. We would be so much worse. We'd be the world whinging champions if we'd it had all happened to us.

"Quoting: Giles, Post #69
I'm gambling on a better future in Poland,

Such people like you (who have money and live most of the times abroad) jack up the prices of properties in Poland . They invest with a short-term goals and quick gains. I understand it, but I'm sorry for those Poles who work their butts off to buy a property and then they will realize they are going to make 10% on it during a several-years period (and they hoped they would make 100% or so). "

Actually if you had bothered to read my other posts you would know I'm actually moving to Poland this year. I'm leave the UK to go and live with my POLISH wife in Poland. So you therefore do not know what you are on about.

And as for you Ola, you are just an ignorant idiot and I would waste my breath on you.

Yes I'm sick of politics because we are all totally without a say in any of it. I wasted 3 years BA and 2 years MA studying political science....what a ******* waste of my time.
I should have studied to be a plumber or carpenter something of plausible use.

What are you on Giles? Im basically posting the same thing as you about properties prices and I agree overall but you should realise that Im trying to make jokes more often than not as well. Could you kindly explain me what do you want from me? Or should I start trolling your posts like you do with mine?

I'm tired a) those who constantly belittle Poland.
b) Those who constantly berate those who are investing in Poland.
c) The negative constant blame culture these threads become infested with.

This whole bloody site is in a constant debate over either, Race or Money. Both topics are constantly thrust in our faces just as they are thrust upon us in the outside world.; it becomes tiring. I'm just annoyed people are so constantly negative and individuals are put down for trying to do something with their miserable existences (like me).

You are forgiven, no one is complaining about people returning with there polish partners to start a new life in Poland, not an issue, its the multi nationals seeing Poland as an easy target to make money, short term gain which ends up being long term pain for Poland. There is a lot of institutions and private companies ready to snap up a cheap bargain in Poland and once that occurs its allegiance is not to Poland but to its shareholders.

invest plz