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sinistar
Edited by: sinistar  Mar 17, 08, 06:12  #61

you generalise mister moonlightning and thats a problem alot of ppl have..

you can't call islam a problem, religion itself causes problems and how ppl use it..
I don't aprove annyone disrespecting female and etc but I have to say I know islam ppl who are good and decent and others aren't and same with anny other race..

if you want to talk about discrimination.. year ago boy got stabbed in brussels (dead) cause they wanted his ipod

police where looking for 2 marocan boys (description)
turned out where 2 polish guys

not meaning to be offencive here but gosh :p
every nationality has his rotten apples also church and priests who molested childs (like I sayd not all of them most is good just rotten apples)

so never generalise..

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rafik
  Mar 17, 08, 07:25  #62

sinistar wrote:
turned out where 2 polish guys

they were 2 GYPSIES living in poland.we don't regard them as polish.


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isisores
  Mar 17, 08, 07:45  #63

Moonlighting wrote:
How about one Turkish minister coming to Germany and exhorting Muslim Turkish immigrants to affirm their cultural and religious characters?

so what? did he have to say "change your religion, and you are not turkish, you are all germans anymore, forget your language, your culture, forget where you came from." ?
and do you know why he came to germany? cause some lovely humanist people burnt a turkish apartment and killed families there. you and these murderers could be good friends, you have so much common ideas.


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Moonlighting
Edited by: Moonlighting  Mar 17, 08, 11:25  #64

sinistar wrote:
you generalise

No I don't, I'm just talking about troublemakers. It's pointless to speak about those who don't cause trouble as it's not the subject of this thread. ;) However, considering the aggressive Islam that progressively rose during the last 20 years in all corners of the globe and its impact in Europe, I would definitely say that Islam is a problematic religion in the present context.

isisores wrote:
so what? did he have to say "change your [...] he came to germany cause some lovely humanist people killed [...] you have so much common ideas.

You exagerate my thought! The only change that every immigrant should do, as a matter of respect for his new country, is accepting to live his culture and faith within the limits of what is allowed by the local law. If you can't accept that maybe you shouldn't come. If you respect us first you'll gain respect in return.
Now regarding the incident you mentioned, you should ask yourself why it happens. Maybe too many natives are just fed up about the too many problems they had to endure from Muslim immigrants, one way or another. I agree that arrogance, intolerance and racism are shocking, but they're even more when it comes from immigrants who direct it at natives. My dear, have you ever wondered how many times native Europeans were victims of verbal abuse, aggressions of all kinds, sometimes murder?
If you keep thinking I have a lot in common with the murderers you mentioned, it's clear that you didn't understand my point in the previous messages.

And I will now stop discussing it, as I have other things to do.


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ShelleyS
  Mar 17, 08, 11:33  #65

Grzegorz_ wrote:
Are you you threathing us ?? Shut the hell up FA !!1


Merely making an observation BB

You think we've always had muslims in the UK?

You are right about my ass though, it has grown in the past 12 months.. ;-)


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Grzegorz_
  Mar 17, 08, 14:17  #66

ShelleyS wrote:
it has grown in the past 12 months.. ;-)


So shake It...


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tornado2007
  Mar 17, 08, 14:26  #67

Ok a general question to all poles, would you welcome the ismalic people and faith to your country?? i just want an honest answer?


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isthatu
  Mar 17, 08, 15:16  #68

Moonlighting= Leon Degrelle= Nazi bas terd


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Mar 17, 08, 15:19  #69

Crow wrote:
Prepare yourself for BRAKING NEWS, by Crow

here it is...

There were news yesterday on Serbian national TV and local TV centers of Novi Sad, in case with Polish and Ukrainian troops/police positioned in Serbian Southern province of Kosovo-Metohija.

I found two links on the Net which can help you to get picture in case with events...


Kosovo Serbs take over U.N. court in flashpoint town

Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:13am EDT, by Branislav Krstic
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL14918120080314?feedType= RSS&feedName=worldNews

MITROVICA, Kosovo (Reuters) - A couple of hundred ethnic Serb protesters took over a United Nations court in the flashpoint town of Mitrovica in north Kosovo on Friday after U.N. police guarding the compound retreated.

"We have returned to a building that belongs to us, and in which we worked until 1999," said municipal public prosecutor Milan Bigovic.

Press: North Kosovo turmoil, elections

16 March 2008 | 17:20 | Source: B92, Beta
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2008&mm=03&dd=16& nav_id=48503

Meanwhile, a Ukrainian solider who put a small Serbian flag on his vehicle has been suspended: "Ukrainian fired because of Serbian flag".


Rapports in Serbian media and rumors (confirmed as correct!) suggests conclusion that Ukrainian soldiers regularely using Serbian flags on its army vehicles as their way to show support to Serbian suveregnity in the region.

Seams that Polish police and soldiers aren`t happy with situation (to be used against Serbians) and they stick togather with Ukrainians and Bulgarians, as much as possible. Poles and Ukrainians - UKPOLBAT refused to use force against Serbs and that was key reason why Serbs managed to retrive court building of Kosovska Mitrovica town.

But, obviously Polish forces on Kosovo serve dirrectly under USA, Franch and German commanders and need to respond on any of their calls for `support` (Ukrainians don`t have similar problem). All in all, Poles are in extremely difficult situation down there on Kosovo.

NATO is on serious test on Kosovo example, same as Slavic solidarity.


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isthatu
Edited by: isthatu  Mar 17, 08, 15:23  #70

So,Poles are cowards and traitors are they crow? Thats what your saying.A bunch of serb thugs start sh it, YOU claim Poles stood by and let them attack Police and civilians. If this is true,shame on all those involved,you have no balls or honor.
Crow,you sir are a sociopath and a psychopath all rolled into one. One question,how did you know all this was going to take place at least 12 hours before it happened? Are you,as many on here suspect,some sort of second rate worker at a sordid serbian propaganda office,or is serbia such a lawless savage nation that attacks on civilians and peace keepers can be lanned and mounted in the open?
either way,the world hates you,a few arse likers from greece aside,so,in a word,get digging your bunker mate,the terror you seem to want unleashed again in your neck of the woods is inching far closer as I write this,once again serb scumbags look set to unleash the full horror of their pathetic,small peniced mentality.


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Mar 17, 08, 15:33  #71

isthatu wrote:
So,Poles are cowards and traitors are they crow? Thats what your saying.A bunch of serb thugs start sh it, YOU claim Poles stood by and let them attack Police and civilians. If this is true,shame on all those involved,you have no balls or honor.

Serbs just returned to work in court building which is institutiion of state of Serbia. Illegal Albanian police and KFOR/NATO troops tried to prevent them to do so. Serbs resisted and defended their right to re-claim Serbian state institution.

Kosovo Serbs beheve according to international low and attackers are Kosovo Albanians, KFOR and NATO.

Kosovo is suvereign Serbian territory and Serbs would defend it from attackers, no matter who can it be. Poles know that. They are our kin nation and hopefully they won`t fall in trechery of Slavdom because of their antagonisms with Russians and due to their obligations to NATO.

isthatu wrote:
One question,how did you know all this was going to take place at least 12 hours before it happened?

you know, you are complete idiot

my first rapport in case with events, happened yesterday evening after whaching Serbian TV. Then, i investaigated on the Net and now confirmed my previous informations

isthatu wrote:
Crow,you sir are a sociopath and a psychopath all rolled into one.

and i think that you are sick and need profesional help

go in nearest mental institution and stay there


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isthatu
  Mar 17, 08, 15:46  #72

lol,says the chetnik butcher boy,grow up or face the wrath again.you are a certifiable nut job crow,you support china's represion of tibet yet ask for sympathy for serbia,face it,when the whole world hates/distrusts a nation,said nation must be doing something wrong,right?


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WAKEUPPOLAND2
  Mar 17, 08, 15:58  #73

Crow,
have you seen the movie THE CROW ?

"IT CANT RAIN ALL THE TIME."

You obviously hate muslims, and they hate people like you who raped their sisters during the bosnian war.

So its no surprise they want independence....IT MAKES SENSE FOR YOU TO PART YOU WAYS.


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Mar 17, 08, 16:08  #74

WAKEUPPOLAND2 wrote:
You obviously hate muslims, and they hate people like you who raped their sisters during the bosnian war.

So its no surprise they want independence....IT MAKES SENSE FOR YOU TO PART YOU WAYS.

instead of answer...

Polish press on false reporting from Kosovo

http://listserv.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0404&L=twatch-l&D=1&F=P&P =25364

Emphasizing that information regarding "ethnic cleansing" (of ethnic Albanians by Serbs) was based on false and frequently dressed up reports, "Trybuna" reminds that for years the non-Albanian population of Kosovo has been forced to flee from its home and that "the Yugoslav Army and police were forced to confront massive attacks by international terrorist groups".

"The majority of Polish media uncritically rebroadcast news about 100,000 victims of Serb genocide, as well as the disappearance of one million Albanian males and 70,000 Albanian women, reportedly raped by Yugoslav soldiers," writes "Trybuna" and emphasizes that this so-called information was never officially denied.

The Media and their Atrocities

by Michael Parenty, May 2000
http://www.michaelparenti.org/MediaAtrocities.html

For the better part of a decade the U.S. public has been bombarded with a media campaign to demonize the Serbian people and their elected leaders. During that time, the U.S. government has pursued a goal of breaking up Yugoslavia into a cluster of small, weak, dependent, free-market principalities.

During the Bosnian war in 1993, the Serbs were accused of pursuing an official policy of rape. “Go forth and rape” a Bosnian Serb commander supposedly publicly instructed his troops.

Bosnian Serb forces supposedly raped anywhere from 25, 000 to 100, 000 Muslim women, the stories varied. The Bosnian Serb army numbered not more than 30, 000 or so, many of whom were engaged in desperate military engagements. A representative from Helsinki Watch noted that stories of massive Serbian rapes originated with the Bosnian Muslim and Croatian governments and had no credible supporting evidence.



isthatu wrote:
you support china's represion of tibet

i never said, nor suggested something like that

i just said (and i say it again), that- Slavs should be very carefull when enter in conflicts inside of other civilizations.


Slavs should wait to be strong enough (!), to be independent (!), to be well informed (!) and then and only then (if they had interests in it- moral or economical), very carefully, eventualy try to give advice to others.


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isthatu
  Mar 17, 08, 16:34  #75

Crow wrote:
isthatu wrote:
you support china's represion of tibet

i never said, nor suggested something like that

yes you did,in the boycott the olympics thread.liar.


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Mar 17, 08, 16:44  #76

problems for jihadist mujaheedines and for those who support them... LATEST NEWS - 4 hours ago


Serbia says working with Russia on Kosovo response

Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:16am EDT
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSL17760221

BELGRADE, March 17 (Reuters) - Serbia and its ally Russia are consulting on joint steps to stop "all forms of violence against Kosovo Serbs", Serbia's caretaker prime minister Vojislav Kostunica said in a statement on Monday.

He accused NATO of "implementing a policy of force against Serbia" following clashes between alliance-led troops and Kosovo Serbs in the flashpoint Kosovo town of Mitrovica, the worst violence since Kosovo's secession one month ago.

"We have started the necessary consultations with Russia about a necessary joint reaction in order to stop all forms of violence against Serbs," his statement added.


Down with NATO! NATO out from Serbian territory!

Freeedom!!!


Serbians calls their Slavic sisters and brothers!

Today they’re attacking us, tomorrow it would be you!

It’s time we finally stop those trying to exterminate our kind!!!


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isthatu
  Mar 17, 08, 17:14  #77

pilock,it was serbs attacking the UN not vice versa.........


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ShelleyS
  Mar 18, 08, 03:40  #78

Grzegorz_ wrote:
So shake It...


Only if you shake yours...


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sinistar
  Mar 18, 08, 06:17  #79

Moonlighting wrote:
No I don't, I'm just talking about troublemakers. It's pointless to speak about those who don't cause trouble as it's not the subject of this thread. ;) However, considering the aggressive Islam that progressively rose during the last 20 years in all corners of the globe and its impact in Europe, I would definitely say that Islam is a problematic religion in the present context.


ok correct they seem to have more troublemakersatm, but hey it's religion it's doomed to go somewhere at some point in time and history :p

I know that sounds cliché aswell but hey where theres power theres always someone to abuse ;)
and problem is that for example islam values men more then woman so they migrate here to where I live belgium ok
what happens?
they grew up seeing woman as lesser and they just act like it and gets them in trouble
and also problem is that we as euro ppl mostly see them comming and go like OH no immigrants etc etc and they feel bad in our socity cause ppl look silly at them when they walk street or etc.
if I would go to another country and theyr like where you from and I say I'm from belgium and they look at me funny I would get pretty upset to :p

I say they can migrate they want as long as they accept and understand OUR culture to start with.. also means the children they bring up here to have respect for female, etc
would make big diffrence to start with

all I'm saying is it has to come from both sides cause we aren't very open to them either

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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Mar 18, 08, 13:14  #80

isthatu wrote:
pilock,it was serbs attacking the UN not vice versa.........

no, its KFOR and NATO who cut access to local Serbs to the Mitrovica town court and all that on sovereign Serbian ground. That action of KFOR/NATO provoked violence. Their action in order to `defend` institutions of phantom Albanian state on Serbian territory, while they in fact erode position of Serbian state institutions- in this case, court

KFOR/NATO are considered to be real occupational forces of Serbian territory. You know what Serbs did to occupators on their territory, thru history? I will tell you- Serbs regularly killed many of them. Serbs lost some battles but- war, never.

isthatu wrote:
yes you did,in the boycott the olympics thread.liar.

you are liar and has some nasty complexes. Give me exact quotation or just shut up


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Grzegorz_
Edited by: Grzegorz_  Mar 18, 08, 13:21  #81

sinistar wrote:
turned out where 2 polish guys


Actually they were Gypsies.

ShelleyS wrote:

Only if you shake yours...


I do.


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Mar 21, 08, 21:26  #82

Let me show you which kind of monsters support NATO (and some governmants/politicians).

crimes of Jihadists and Islamists on Christian Serbs...


"KLA sold Kosovo Serb organs in Albania"

21 March 2008 | 14:11 -> 19:23 | Source: B92, Beta
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2008&mm=03&dd=21&n av_id=48671

BELGRADE -- The prosecutor is to look into the sale of organs of Kosovo Serbs who vanished during and after the 1999 bombing.

Kosovo Serbs were sent to Albania,” said War Crimes Prosecutor Vladimir Vukčević.

In her book, “The Hunt”, to be published in Italy on April 3, the former Hague Tribunal Chief Prosecutor Carla Del Ponte states that, during investigations into war crimes committed by the Kosovo Liberation Army, KLA, against Serbs and other non-Albanians, the prosecutor’s office was informed that persons who disappeared during the Kosovo conflict were used in organ smuggling operations.

Bush OKs supplying arms to Kosovo

ABC NEWS
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/20/2195194.htm

President George W Bush has authorised supplying Kosovo with weapons, signaling the establishment of government-to-government relations after recognising its independence, the White House said.



Seams that this time, Vatican support Serbs...


Pope calls for caution, Organization of the Islamic Conference welcomes secession

Thursday, February 21, 2008
http://www.kosovocompromise.com/cms/item/latestnews/en.html?view=story &id=596&sectionId=1

"With regard to the current crisis in Kosovo, I call upon all interested parties to act with prudence and moderation, and to seek solutions that favour mutual respect and reconciliation," the pope told the new Serbian ambassador to the Holy See, Vladeta Jankovic.

Meanwhile, in Riyadh, the Organisation of the Islamic Conference has welcomed Kosovo's declaration of independence, saying it would be an asset to the Muslim world.

"The Islamic (nation) wishes them success in the new battle awaiting them, which is the building of a strong and prosperous state capable of satisfying its people. There is no doubt that the independence of Kosovo will be an asset to the Muslim world and further enhance joint Islamic action," Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, the head of the OIC.



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joepilsudski
  Mar 22, 08, 13:44  #83

As long as the Catholic Church in Poland is strong, Poland should be OK...if the Church and faith in Christ weakens, Poland will end up like Germany, Holland and the UK...it is a matter of Christian faith & culture...you want to be like Holland, with legal prostitution, gay marriage, legalized euthenasia and high rates of abortion?...and then the Dutch rail about Muslims!...Muslims belive in their God...do you believe in yours?

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