Poland-Russia: never-ending story?

No. I simply pointed the mirror at you and If you don't like It then It really does say something. Living in a quasi-totalitarian state with a cult of personality of your master that's not really surprising.

A genocide is a crime aimed to kill representatives of a concrete ethnic grup for its common reduction. Of one or some ethnic groups, not the intellectuals of all ethnicities as it was during communist rule.

If it is a real genocide as qualified by 1947 Convention. The mass murder of upper social groups (intellectuals) for gouverning later over workers and peasants is not a genocide (Polish publicist A. de Lazari is of the same opinion). It is the crime of the same danger but it requires its own term

Truhlei, so you mean the Russians who were murdered during communism? I've read Solzhenitsyn many times; I often reach for 'The Gulag Archpelago.' I remember reading its first American edton, and then a Polish one published in Paris by the emigre Polish
publishing house Kultura, in, if I remember it rght, 1977.

no,you are most welcome.
he just reminded me on member named Crow,which always talk about slavic union,serbian superiority,and a great russians who are polish best friends,but you are not friendly enough..
since crow has been silent for some time,i wondered...nevermind:))

Polish king was also respected even by rokosz participants. Exept Bar konfederacja partisans as far as I know no rokoszans required any detronement (Zebzydowski or Lubomirski rokosz). According to Constitution 1791 King is intouchable and inrespounsable/
That's not a totalitarian state.

of course,i think that slavic union is a total bull,we don't need russians to rule over us all.

Yes,
That is only one of thousands of books about communist terror.

But I was talking about your current master.

Slavic Union: I think that Russia should aim to join EU by ... 2030.
Kosovo: it's a trace of velikorusski chauvinism as to Russians to stand for "orthodox brothers" serbs. Still, i do think that European countries should carry out an independent policy. States's aggressive influence is a time bomb.

My only master is president Putin. I'll respect the head of the state despite its personality/ Obedience is a different thing.
Shall you shame me for being a Sarmate ideals partisan?

vs. peasantry? :)

Being Russian I'm against not only Kosovo de jure independence but also any kind of Osetian and Abhasian separatism from Georgia as well as East Ukranian Russian-speaking de jure separation from Ukraune.
Each state limit all over the world may be considered injust by somebody. Europe isn't an exception. Vilnius Lithuania is one of the examples.
Kosovo de jure independence wil provoke the similar attempts all over the world because despite Ahtisaari statements its situation isn't so unique.
Neither USA nor NAto will be able to control this situation

Atilla you are Russian. You know that Russian middle class is defensless and even is unable to realize that it should defend itself. Our "elite" think how to distribute sone gas profits among lumpens. If gas disappears, lumpens will distribute middle class property (in direct or indirect way) Sarmats formed some 15 per cent of population and were able to controle all life in RP. 15 per cent and their social status - all this shows that the majority of szlachta belonged to middle class. A good example

Russians also reject slavic union. Slavic countries are qualified now as possible obstacle for Russian business and trade with "Old Europeans"

First of all I'll see how Polish government wins postcommunism in Poland following only 45 years of communist rule and 18 years of postcommunist one under the controle of democratic powers.
Only after that you will receive a certain right to condemn a country which siffered from communism during 74 years and was not later controlled in its democratic development by free world.
I'm sure Kaczynskis don't have even a correct political technology to win in this sphere. As well as teache oter ex communist countries

Truhlei,
Well, i don't know really. May be you are right. I think the extermination of noble elite in Russia won't be reimbursed ever. Gas tycoons (i used to work at Gazprom for some time) don't have a chance. Their childrean or children of their children - probably.

yes my friend,but i'm afraid russia will stand with china,few days ago russia signed with china some statement of special relations.in the other hand,argues with west about almost everything,russia left that'' no mass weapons pact''.but i think americans are teasing russia too.but who needs another cold war?
it would be nice to see russia in eu by 2030,but i doubt some head european countries as england will allow another strong country in europe.



;i think that states are like marriages;))if someone's not happy,then divorce.share your earnings,and split in peace.stay friends,for sake of people(children).politicians are responsible for people,not for their own dignity.
i personally believe that opressed people want out,and the opressors are trying to preserve their milking cows,if you get what i mean.

Atilla I'm sure we have a wrong idea of szlachta and Rissian nobility.
The image of these classes in the 19 century doesn't give us anything. To think about nobility or szlachta exploring the examples of the 19 century is the same thing that to learn about Helsinki 1952Olympic Games sportsmen preparation studying one of its champions today when he is after 70.
Nobility as well as szlachta were efficient in 16-17 centuries when their manners and education wasn't much higher than the lewel of peasants.
As to szlachta it can't be compared with Russian or Western nobility. It is a unique phenomenon. It wasn't a class or social group. It was a little people (some 15 per cent) within tle big people.
It is sometimes similar to communist party in totalitarian countries/ I mean social duties and prospects for career only for party members. I don't mean communist ideology by itself although the antihuman ideas turned communist states to totalitarian existence without any Golden Liberty for anybody.
It is quite possible now to establish an irregular forces with organization and honour tribunals. The participants will occupy all profitable posts in state politics or business and won't permit penetration of no-irregulars. That's the szlachta as well as nobility algorytm.
15 per cent will signify its penetration into all spheres. All major public servants, all major military officers (from major) all businessmen and all major managers. And volunteers downstairs as szlachta golota.
Everything is prepared for this. Everibody will join to have success and take duties. Such group (for Russia some 20 million) will controle everything and rebels will become impossible as well as reforms won't take into account lumpens' protests.
Poland and Litwa can teach us. Not contemporary one.

Excuse me... ?

The difference is that you created communism...

For any independence de jure (I don't discuss de facto one the kosovars have since 1999) a carantin is requires. North Cyprus is waiting for 33 years

You don't read Jaroslaw Kaczynski's speeches. You don't like Jaroslaw? But there are some clever ideas in his speeches. The ways of its putting in practice isn't so clever.
But in any way don't ask moskal about Polish fight against postcommunism. Read more Polish newspapers

I didn't create communism. There were some Russians who participated in that. But not only Russians. Study the ideas of Konstantin Kalinowski, red fraction leader in 1863. His "Red" term was used by Soviet communists.

And I always blamed germans...

And the same advice. Look for Polish communist colaborationists and their sons and grandsons. Their participation in Polish oppression was more evident than the participation of 99 per cent of Russians. Now they have a higher living standarts than the sons of their victims. But you won't look for them and repeat them everything you told me, unknown moskal. I'm long away. It is comfortable to accuse me. It is imposible to make Polish postcommunists give an explication whi they are still living better than their victims.
I told peasantry spirit governs. That is one of such demonstrations, isn't it?
To be brave with unknown moskal, to condemn him without any knowledge about his familiars' possible participation in Polish tragedy and to keep silence with the postcommunist next door. Quite a peasant virtud

Unlike most of Poles I like Jaro. What's your point ?

You asked me about postcommunism in Poland. It is described in his works.

Germans created theory which had hardly anything in common with totalitarian and genocidal state Russians created.

The point is that without your soldats these people would never get power here, not even close to that.

So you compare our problems with punishing traitors to your situations, when the whole country is run by "ex" KGB/GRU people ??