Poland-Russia: never-ending story?

True, my mistake... I apologise... I`ll correct that

This is quotation from article and in my write I insert your name thinking about something else what I want to quote to you, sorry

Okay ;) No problem, dude.

Guys, i call you to be gentlemans in moments of your triumph.

You should virtualy offer your hands to those Russians who are hire on Polish forums. Those are for sure Russians who care to say something to Poles and, I from all what was/is presented hire from them must conclude that they are positive. They have their oppinion but, are positive in conversation

:)

Sure, but they were thinking that Russia was better than Poland in "everything", which is wrong, and we showed them that it's the contrary actually ;P aha

well, nobady`s perfect

Let`s take few slivovica`s and vodka`s and let`s kiss and give a hug to each others

:) :)

Personnally, i think that Poles are more perfect than others... ;D LoL

Of, course

how couldn`t they be when they preserved live memory on Sarmatians, thru Sarmatian schlachta; same as Serbs (Lusatian and Balkan) who remembered Sarmatian period thru preservation of Sarmatian name- once universal name of our Slavic ancestors


Sarmatia! Land of green, land of free. Where we all belong, where we had been.

:)

Tell that to Russian people, but i'm not sure they would share their oil and gas with you...except if you give'em a lot of money... ;P

Hm, Russia is currently in money phase, that`s true

but, mark my words, when Russia learns that Russia can profit more from good relations with rest of Slavic world, then from trechery, new era of Europan and Slavic history will occur

Then, we would do real business


You know, when American strategists lounched statement `that isn`t OK that Russia hold all her resources only for themselves` they of course wanted to say that would be OK if so called west control those resources. But, that selfish comment gave idea to some Slavic thinkers who concluded that if we analize Slavic history we must conclude that other Slavs rightfull deserve to profit on those resources, too. How that? Simply. Without natural Slavic shield (naturaly, `Drang nach osten` always needed to deal with first obstacle) on Western and Southern borders from long time ago Russia would be conquored (or would be smaler). So, by anology, because of that fact, Russia need to be more cooperative with Slavic world when we talk about enegy/resources.

Russian way of thinking has always been the same : thinking that they are the strongest, and that they own the rest of the world.
Good luck if you plan to change their selfish mind ;)

PS : i'm not talking about ALL Russians, just the leaders, and some others that still can't face the fact that Big Strong Mighty Russia is over...

To give you picture


Serbian calculations are simple with Russians- or you (Russians) would help to all Serbs (Lusatian- Catholic and Protestant, Balkan- Orthodox and Catholic) or we would extinct waiting that you come. Then, you would be alone in this hostile world


Magic of all this is that Russia need fifth element to found strenght to finaly do something right for Slavic world, for Europe after all, for Christianity.

For any progress in their task, Russians would need support from Catholic Poland. When they offer hand for cooperation ball would be on Poland. For sure, Poland wouldn`t have a choice but, Poland would also beat her fears and prejudices. So, when kin nations, two Slavic powers- Poland and Russia combine efforts, for good of whole Slavdom fifth element (love, pure good) would be extracted and all those hostile nations who profit on Slavic blood and disasters would retreated and will be balance and peace in Europe/World.

How long have you been panslavist ?... ;P I just think that it can never happen. Imagine a pan-germanism : a union with Germany, England, Austria, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and so on...today, how do you think it's possible ! People fought twice last century, and died twice as well. Many lives were lost, and now that all this sh*t is done, you think people will simply forget what happened and happily join an utopian union...
You know what ? We should stop creating communities because all differences lead to conflicts (as long as men are so stupid), so the only union that could be helpful in this d*mn world is a union of ALL countries ! That's all i can see where we could benefit something... ;)

well said that man,racial unions,what piffel,the sort of crap that leads to death squads and labour camps and worst of all silly homo erotic uniforms and shiney black boots,the worlds sick of that crap,I would have thought someone from a country decimated by that sort of bullcrap would have more sense.

But, they already have THEIR world and they exploite Slavs


Look, protagonist of EU, suggest that we forget on negative examples from past... etc, multiculturalism, tolerance, human rights (believe me they aren`t serious, they just manipulate with those phrases for conquest)

Now, all those phrases are available when we speak about possible Slavic Union, too. Just not only as phrases with double standards (empty words). We need that those things realy work and if we are capable to beat our prejudices, fears, night mares... if we are tolerant enough, if we aren`t racists on sub-racial level (then we also won`t be racists when think about other races), if we are multicultural and understand that all people has their rights, if we understand that Slavs are diversed because we live on a huge territory for thousends of years, if we know how our culture is great, how beautiful are Slavic languages, how interesting fact is our diversed approaches on Christianity... we would find that we are all good Pan-Slavists.

Did you ever think that way? How could one Pole be open and modern by all standards if isn`t capable to forgive and understand Russian (and opposite of course). Its a chalange bigger then forgive to German because biggest wounds/scars are those that your brother made on you.


In many occations, thru meny discussions, I found that I`m more open (Serbs in general) then many other people and, in fact that Serbs are much in front of era in which we live. That is tragic truth about Serbs. Reason for that, well... I think its about that strong colective memory in neo-cortex (because of constant sufferings in history), that Slavs were one. We Serbs can`t understand that our civilization need to extinct, no matter that others for their prosperity need to consume Slavic world (they don`t, but they think that way).

If you think that all you said is great, so let's think that, but such a union will never happen, do you really think that minds can change so easily ?
If we want to live in a better world, we have to work all hands in hands, not giving a f*ck whose hand it is, we are all the same, with common and different histories, but at then end we are all the same : we suffer from the same pains, we are happy for the same reasons, we all bleed the same, so "races" don't really matter to me. I don't want to choose my friends : if they are German or Russian, Italian or Norwegian, Arab or Chinese, WTF we are all the same, aren't we ?! So let's live together peacefully and free with no unions to make things more difficult than they already are. ;)

You see, you just explained that EU won`t work


... and in chaos that will happen after that project for conquest fail, in agony, we- Slavs would found each others. So, you see, for now, we only need to talk and to talk and to talk and, to remember that we aren`t alone (and that those who are hostile on us see that). Then, when the moment come, will be some closer cooperation, alliance, unity... (call it as you wish) or as Slavs we wont` survive. If it isn`t importante that we survive as Slavs, then never mind, this Earth would continue to rotate arround Sun even without us.

But, before you say AMEN for our world, I would remind you that Germans, no matter Catholic or Protestant, Brits and others don`t even think to say AMIN for their civilization. Not to mention us- Serbs!

heh Crow, honestly we dont want to do anything with Russians ... Thats whole true, we dont care about threir sick country and weak society ... Russia suck ... and nothing will change it.

OK, you see. I understand you

Talk to me

The EU is the result of all the conflicts of last centuries. We needed to act in order to keep a peaceful continent and world, to work together (as i said), to build together, no matter where we are from, and to make our life better. It's working, the EU is rich and powerful in the world, but each countries are independant. We are Polish, English, French, German before being European. Being French i'm not considering myself as part of a Latin world. I'm part Polish though, but it doesn't matter. I'm proud of being French, i'm proud of being Polish, i'm proud of being European ! ;) Neither Slavs nor Latins in my thoughts now... ;)

vive le difference

Hehe ;p almost perfect. If you're talking about the difference (singular) so you have to say "Vive la différence"
Now if you want to talk about the differences, you'd say "Vive les différences" ;)

Vive la Vieille Alliance !

What do you mean by "Vieille Alliance" (Old Alliance) ?... ;)

Zut alors !
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Oh i see !! So you must be right, vive la Vieille Alliance ! ;P

Russia!!! Deus la volt!!!! You will nevere win over us because we are Orthodox, a really only one true Christian brunch and you are just schismatics!!!! ;-)))

Cut your bear my friend, i don't understand what you're trying to tell me ;P LoL

And you are trying to tell me that Polish nation is one of the most educated nations? HA!!!

I didn't say that, but that's true ;)

But you ought to know this, cause you are Catholic, as i understand. Deus la (lo) volt is a Crussader's motto "God wills it"