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Uncle Bob
Edited by: Uncle Bob  Mar 15, 08, 15:49  #1

News.pl wrote:
Polish MPs from the Polish-Tibetan Group have warned the Chinese ambassador in Warsaw that Poland may pullout of the Olympic Games this summer, writes Dziennik. The warning is a response to the dramatic events in Tibet, where the Chinese authorities brutally suppressed pro-independence demonstrations killing up to 80 people on Friday.


http://www.polskieradio.pl/thenews/press-review/?id=78127

Well thats all jolly admirable I must say... Do you think anyone will take any notice of Polish MPs from the Polish-Tibetan group?

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EbonyandBathory
  Mar 15, 08, 15:51  #2

Maybe, UB, let's hope so. Good for Poland for taking a honorable stance here, let's hope it raises awareness and let's certainly hope it gets resolved so Poland's athletes can compete in the Olympics!


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Crow
  Mar 15, 08, 15:56  #3

Poland threatens to boycott Beijing Olympics

Poles, don`t do that. Don`t follow USA interests blindely

We- Slavs are old civilization and need to continue our relations with other civilizations.

Only thru mutual respect and true tolerance, civilizations can affect each others and change the world, make it batter.


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Uncle Bob
  Mar 15, 08, 16:01  #4

Crow wrote:
Only thru mutual respect and true tolerance, civilizations can affect each others and change the world, make it batter.


Err... isnt this sort of what calling for the boycott is all about?

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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Mar 15, 08, 16:10  #5

Uncle Bob wrote:
Err... isnt this sort of what calling for the boycott is all about?

be careful Poljski brate

this way or another, Tibet and China would heal the rift between them. They coexist for thousends of years already.... This way or another, they belong to same cultural heritage. We are foreigners to both of them. Batter for all of us, if both of them, don`t start to consider us as hostile foreigners.

Who are we to judge to any of them. We have right to take our position on their problems, to criticize even but, that`s it. It`s their world. We nor have knowlage, nor have right, nor have interests to accept responsibility for future of their children

Uncle Bob wrote:
boycott

in today`s world, boycott is considered as act of hostility and regularely is understand as clear message that you consider somebody for enemy

Poland is part of Slavic world and Polish politicians should be more responsible


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joepilsudski
  Mar 15, 08, 16:13  #6

Poland threatens to boycott Beijing Olympics

This is an absurdity...boycott the Peking Olympics for a group of 'Poles' who worship the Tibetan 'devil god'?...now, the Communist Chinese worship another god also, but the Olympics is a festival of athletics.

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Filios1
  Mar 15, 08, 16:17  #7

Crow wrote:
this way or another, Tibet and China would heal the rift between them. They coexist for thousends of years already.... This way or another, they belong to same cultural heritage. We are foreigners to both of them. Batter for all of us, if both of them, don`t start to consider us as hostile foreigners.

Who are we to judge to any of them. We have right to take our position on their problems, to criticize even but, that`s it. It`s their world. We nor have knowlage, nor have right, nor have interests to accept responsibility for future of their children


I agree completely. Poland needs to start looking after her own affairs, rather than sticking her nose into another countries business and antagonizing. No need to become an enemy of China. That is their sphere of influence, their world, who are we to interfere?


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Mar 15, 08, 16:27  #8

Filios1 wrote:
I agree completely.

sure

only young nations/countries react impetiously and agressively on first `opportunity`. Take Germany or USA for negative examples. Analize stance of Islam, after all (youngest big world religion)

Historicaly, Poland was last great active center of ancient Slavic civilization (Sarmatia Europae, Sarmatia Asiatica, Great Moravia). Current behavior of Polish ruling politicians greately disapointed me. They failed on all crucial fields. In the same time, there are clear signals, given from Polish public, that Polish spirit live


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osiol
  Mar 15, 08, 16:42  #9

Filios1 wrote:
who are we to interfere?

The longest journey starts with a single step.

- Confucius... um... !


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Foreigner4
  Mar 15, 08, 17:19  #10

This would be admirable of Poland but for it's invovlement in the middle east. we seem to be living in a world where only "our" side gets to determine who's the baddy.

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Uncle Bob
  Mar 15, 08, 17:44  #11

Crow wrote:
in today`s world, boycott is considered as act of hostility and regularely is understand as clear message that you consider somebody for enemy


It seems you are from the school that considers protest as a hostile act ,which is a dangerous path to follow. I think, taking into account your cultural heritage, it is more likely that you dont understand what the act of boycott really means.

I think it is admirable that a group of MPs from a country that was oppressed and bullied by a dominating communist power for decades now wants to show solidarnosz to another country that is still being oppressed and bullied by a dominating communist power.

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isthatu
  Mar 15, 08, 18:44  #12

Free Tibet!!
Bomb Red China!
Tickle The Serbs!
Goose The Germans!


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Feliks
  Mar 15, 08, 20:17  #13

I think the general feeling in Tibet is that they want to be free, because they are a seperate national identity. What chance do they have on their own? I think Poland should show solidarity, with a country that is experiencing foreign rule just as Poland has in the past. Many Poles felt betrayed when no one came to their aid. Whether or not a boycott is the best way to go about freeing Tibet, is something I couldn't rightly comment on, but I do think Poland should do something. The main concern for me with boycotting an athletic event is that it will shatter the dreams of many of the Polish athletes scheduled to compete. I don't think the Polish government have the right to take their dreams away. I think for a boycott to be viable, the Polish athletes would have to agree to it.


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Mar 15, 08, 20:24  #14

Uncle Bob wrote:
It seems you are from the school that considers protest as a hostile act ,which is a dangerous path to follow. I think, taking into account your cultural heritage, it is more likely that you dont understand what the act of boycott really means.

I think it is admirable that a group of MPs from a country that was oppressed and bullied by a dominating communist power for decades now wants to show solidarnosz to another country that is still being oppressed and bullied by a dominating communist power.

my school? my heritage?

I was born in Yugoslavia/Serbia, which was oppresed by Warsaw communist pact. Then, we hellped to Czechoslovakians who also were oppresed from Warsaw communist pact. Then, even to Hungarians. We hellped a lot of to Albania

It`s glad to me that Poland now, helping to others. It`s probably because Poland is independent now. It is independent?


So, I can tell that i understand what you want to say.


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plk123
  Mar 16, 08, 01:55  #15

Uncle Bob wrote:
I think it is admirable that a group of MPs from a country that was oppressed and bullied by a dominating communist power for decades now wants to show solidarnosz to another country that is still being oppressed and bullied by a dominating communist power.
exactly. i think this is great news. glad to see PL sticking up for the oppressed.
Feliks wrote:
I don't think the Polish government have the right to take their dreams away. I think for a boycott to be viable, the Polish athletes would have to agree to it.

this is all china's fault not polish politicians. if i was an athlete i wouldn't want to go to china right now. from tiananmen to tibet china hasn't changed one bit. i hope all countries boycott anything and everything china.


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Bratwurst Boy
Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  Mar 16, 08, 03:24  #16

China is the upcoming super power and it isn't a nice picture.
Chuck the boots on, gather your weapons, close the lines, double the guards I just say....

These games will be a bad joke, only meant to present a lying, bloody dead face to the world, playing the world for a fool...I don't plan on watching this travesty!
Not to forget that China plans to gather the most medals - their "athletes" will be doped to the gills!


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Crow
  Mar 16, 08, 04:39  #17

Bratwurst Boy wrote:
China is the upcoming super power and it isn't a nice picture.
Chuck the boots on, gather your weapons, close the lines, double the guards I just say....

These games will be a bad joke, only meant to present a lying, bloody dead face to the world, playing the world for a fool...I don't plan on watching this travesty!
Not to forget that China plans to gather the most medals - their "athletes" will be doped to the gills!

there is no perfect democracy in the world, most of that what you mentioned above can be applyeed on many other countries of this world.

So, what you suggests- that we stop to organize Olympic games? Olympics shouldn`t have anything with politics


Wurst, i see, you are happy to encourage/salute any Polish mistake- its obvious. Give up, Poles are Slavs and this way or another, you must count on many who would arise for Poland


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Bratwurst Boy
Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  Mar 16, 08, 04:42  #18

Crow wrote:
Only thru mutual respect and true tolerance, civilizations can affect each others and change the world, make it batter.


This respect and true tolerance you always show to the Germans and your "so called West", right Crowie???

Crow wrote:
So, what you suggests- that we stop to organize Olympic games? Olympics shouldn`t have anything with politics


Remember the Olympic Games 1936 in Nazi Germany? Shouldn't they had been boycotted?

Crow wrote:
Wurst, i see, you are happy to encourage/salute any Polish mistake- its obvious. Give up, Poles are Slavs and this way or another, you must count on many who would arise for Poland


And the beaten and killed Tibetans struggling for freedom are not worthy of slavic support because.....?

And an oppressive, undemocratic regime like China is a good friend of the slavic people because...?

The difference between Poles wanting to get free from the overwhelming russian/german yoke and the Tibetans from China is exactly....?

(And what the heck has your slav-dom to do with all that???)


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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Mar 16, 08, 06:08  #19

I think that everybody will go on this Olympics games ... I hope I am wrong.


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Ulaszyn
  Mar 16, 08, 06:45  #20

Filios1 wrote:
That is their sphere of influence, their world, who are we to interfere?


Similar sentiments echoed at the start of WW2 with Nazi Germany poised on Poland's doorstep isn't it?

I can think of no more worthy a nation or race of people than the Tibetans to help, even by a small act of boycott. Read some of their teachings and talk to some of their people. If all nations on earth subscribed to 10% of what Tibetans are then it would be a utopia.

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Bratwurst Boy
Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  Mar 16, 08, 07:49  #21




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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Mar 16, 08, 08:06  #22

Human Rights Voilations are problem in countries like China and Russia ... we need to think about that ...


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szkotja2007
  Mar 16, 08, 08:14  #23

From todays news - 80 killed in Tibet -
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Lukasz
  Mar 16, 08, 08:40  #24

http://serwisy.gazeta.pl/wideo/44,88761,5027056.html

I have just checked what is going on there ... this Olympic games will be controversial ... as I said I think everybody will go there, I hope I am wrong.


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Crow
  Mar 16, 08, 14:24  #25

Bratwurst Boy wrote:
Remember the Olympic Games 1936 in Nazi Germany? Shouldn't they had been boycotted?

not the Olympics but Germany

But obviously somebody on so called west profited on Slavic dissaster and that`s why Slavs were among those predicted for extremination. That`s why was allowed to Germany to become that powerfull.

Then after war, Germany was granted with `Marshall Plan` and Germany was rebuild and now `masters` wait to use her againg against Slavs

but, i hope that `masters` miscalculates


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Bratwurst Boy
  Mar 16, 08, 15:51  #26

Crow wrote:
not the Olympics but Germany

But obviously somebody on so called west profited on Slavic dissaster and that`s why Slavs were among those predicted for extremination. That`s why was allowed to Germany to become that powerfull.

Then after war, Germany was granted with `Marshall Plan` and Germany was rebuild and now `masters` wait to use her againg against Slavs

but, i hope that `masters` miscalculates


no comment


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isthatu
  Mar 16, 08, 15:52  #27

Bratwurst Boy wrote:
Remember the Olympic Games 1936 in Nazi Germany? Shouldn't they had been boycotted?

No,it was worth it just to see the look on Adolf's face when Jesse Owen won :) Lets not even talk about Lewis/ Schmelling ...


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Seanus
  Mar 16, 08, 15:56  #28

Yeah, it was Hitler that was the jessy after that


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Grzegorz_
  Mar 16, 08, 18:51  #29

Occupation of Tibet is just wrong. We should say that no matter how strong China is.


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Filios1
  Mar 16, 08, 19:06  #30

Grzegorz_ wrote:
Occupation of Tibet is just wrong. We should say that no matter how strong China is.


It may be wrong, but politics should have no bearing on athletic events such as the Olympics.


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