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Bratwurst Boy
Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  Mar 27, 08, 18:22  #211

The really, only smart, intelligent thing to do would be to invest into research and development of using reneweable energies instead.

Not only would we earning lots of money when we sell these technologies as more and more countries see the need, we would become independent from the upcoming power struggles!

Actually there isn't an alternative...

 
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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Mar 27, 08, 18:28  #212

Seanus wrote:
highest IQ in Europe.....

There is one interesting article. Imagine where? In Croatian newspaper online. Well, facts are facts...

[translation]

Serbia among Top 3 most intelligent countries

Last year in the country of our eastern neighbours, 470 out of 1090 respondents filled out papers for membership to Mensa, an international organization of the most inteligent individuals.

The % of citizens who had an IQ greater than 148 out of 156 was 43%. Thus Serbia and Montengro crored third place out of the 100 countries whehere MENSA has offices,...

Original article:

Izraelci, Slovenci i Srbi najinteligentniji na svijetu
http://www.index.hr/xmag/clanak.aspx?id=298999

U ZEMLJI naših istočnih susjeda tijekom protekle je godine čak 470 od 1097 prijavljenih ljudi ispunilo uvjete za učlanjenje u Mensu, međunarodnu udrugu inteligentnih pojedinaca.

Postotak građana koji su lani na testovima tog udruženja zabilježili IQ veći od 148 po Caletovoj skali do 156, iznosi 43 posto. Po tome je Srbija i Crna Gora na visokom trećem mjestu među stotinjak zemalja u kojima Mensa ima svoje podružnice,...


 
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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Mar 27, 08, 18:30  #213

Crow wrote:
Serbia among Top 3 most intelligent countries


Last year in the country of our eastern neighbours, 470 out of 1090 respondents filled out papers for membership to Mensa, an international organization of the most inteligent individuals.

The % of citizens who had an IQ greater than 148 out of 156 was 43%. Thus Serbia and Montengro crored third place out of the 100 countries whehere MENSA has offices,...


That just means you have intelligant people... however the majority on average are idiots....

Bratwurst Boy wrote:
The really, only smart, intelligent thing to do would be to invest into research and development of using eneweable energies instead.

Not only would we earning lots of money when we sell these technologies as more and more countries see the need, we would become independent from the upcoming power struggles!

Actually there isn't an alternative...


Once again I have to agree....

 
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Bratwurst Boy
  Mar 27, 08, 18:33  #214

matthias wrote:
That just means you have intelligant people


...and they were all elsewhere as the IQ test for Europe was made! :)

 
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Seanus ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 27, 08, 18:38  #215

Matty, was that figure of 101 (IQ) for Americans rigged by any chance? LOL

 
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matthias
  Mar 27, 08, 18:41  #216

Bratwurst Boy wrote:
and they were all elsewhere as the IQ test for Europe was made! :)


lmao.....

Seanus wrote:
Matty, was that figure of 101 (IQ) for Americans rigged by any chance? LOL


no they weren't, but the foreignors brought those scores up... In my highschool, all the smart kids where mostly Polish, Asian, some other European. Only a small minority where Americans.....

 
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Seanus ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 27, 08, 18:48  #217

But America has produced some great inventors. The fault, as I see it, of the standard American is that they are very insular. They fall down on geographical issues and global awareness

 
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matthias
  Mar 27, 08, 18:54  #218

Seanus wrote:
But America has produced some great inventors


True...... were talking on average here..... From 300 million people, the right infrastucture and resources it is bound to happen....

Seanus wrote:
They fall down on geographical issues and global awareness


Can't argue with that......

 
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Seanus ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 27, 08, 18:57  #219

Would the average American think that Wales are huge sea animals?

 
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matthias
  Mar 27, 08, 19:00  #220

Seanus wrote:
Would the average American think that Wales are huge sea animals?


God I hope not, I hope they would recognize that its located in the UK...... I wouldnt be suprised though if they didnt

 
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Seanus ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 27, 08, 19:04  #221

Would they know the difference between the UK and Great Britain?

 
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matthias
  Mar 27, 08, 19:10  #222

Seanus wrote:
Would they know the difference between the UK and Great Britain?


A tiny minority...... It's not common knowledge...

 
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Seanus ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 27, 08, 19:13  #223

Back to the thread maybe

 
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matthias
  Mar 27, 08, 19:15  #224

Seanus wrote:


Back to the thread maybe


Yes, I agree..... as to the thread..... why is Brown so reluctant to boycott the ceremonies?????

 
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Seanus ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 27, 08, 19:16  #225

Last I heard, he wasn't gonna compete, LOL

 
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matthias
  Mar 27, 08, 19:25  #226

Seanus wrote:
Last I heard, he wasn't gonna compete, LOL


lol, oh please you know what Im talking about...

 
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Seanus ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 27, 08, 19:27  #227

I haven't asked him, been too busy

 
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matthias
  Mar 27, 08, 19:28  #228

Seanus wrote:
I haven't asked him, been too busy


lol, well once you find the time, don't shy away from asking....

 
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Crnogorac
  Mar 27, 08, 19:29  #229

Seanus wrote:
Would they know the difference between the UK and Great Britain?








I highly doubt it.

 
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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Mar 27, 08, 19:31  #230

Crnogorac wrote:

I highly doubt it


lmao, I agree........ question is do you????

not to mention look at the scumbags that were being asked.... put a questionnaire on wall street not some trailer trash town...

 
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matthias
  Mar 27, 08, 20:55  #231

Lhasa monks accuse China of lying over unrest

Good article about Tibet.....

 
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matthias
  Mar 28, 08, 00:05  #232

Polish Ambassador called to account for Olympic boycott

http://www.wbj.pl/?command=article&id=40582

Poland's ambassador was called into the foreign ministry in Beijing... I was wondering if anybody has any info in what was discussed... Have trouble finding more info on the matter...

 
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Beijing2008_2
Edited by: Beijing2008_2  Mar 28, 08, 01:46  #233

Bratwurst Boy wrote:
Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Mar 22, 08, 13:56 #76

beijing2008 wrote:
"Tibet to China"
= "Texas/Hawaii/Vermont to USA"
= "Bavaria to Germany"
= "Corsica to France"
= "Basque to Spain"
="Scotland/Wales to UK"
= "Punjab to India"
= "Okinawa to Japan"
= "Quebec to Canada"
= "Sicily to Italy"
= "Chechnya to Russia" ...


Wrong!

I don't see Texans/Hawaians/Vermontans protesting on the streets for freedom from the US
I don't see Bavarians protesting on the streets for freedom from Germany
I don't see Corsicans protesting on the streets for freedom from France
Basques are fighting for independence from Spain (some of them)
I don't see protesting Scots and Walisians on the streets for Freedom from GB
I don't see Quebecians protesting on the streets for freedom from Canada.
I don't see sicilians protesting on the streets for freedom from Italy.

And what's most important I don't see a violant and brutal oppression of these people in their countries.

There is a movement of chechnyans to fight for independence and freedom from Russia - but then China and Russia are good pals, aren't you.


Hi, I am a Chinese and I will try to communicate with you in your manner.

Frankly speaking, I do not think you were mature enough when the Natives in America and the Aboriginals in Australia and New Zealand were protesting for their freedom.




sledz wrote:

chinese proudcts are crap anyways....cheap junk!

I have be trying not to buy anything from there, but its getting almost impossible.

They sent us poisoned pet food, I dont recall how many Dogs and Cats died.

Then we caught them making baby toys with lead based paint..


Hi, I am a Chinese and I will try to communicate with you in your manner.

If you do not like Chinese products, you do not have to buy them. It is your right.

If you do not like China, you do not have to travel to see it. It is also your right. Chinese people do not care.

To the pet food, if it is China's fault, I will feel regrets.

To the lead-containing toys, it is manufactured by a US company whose factory is set on China's land. It is a US company that manufactured the leading-containing toys.

 
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Beijing2008_2
  Mar 28, 08, 02:24  #234

Grzegorz_ wrote:

beijing2008 wrote:
our territorial integrity and sovereignty.

Do you think that most of Tibetans want their land to be a part of China ?


Yes. I do. I was there in 2005 and stayed for half a year. Most Tibetans I contacted were civilians instead of monks. Many of them told me straightly that they appreciated China's Communist Party (CCP) for their living conditions were improved. Many Tibetan drivers had Chairman Mao's photo overhanging below the rear mirror. If they hated him, I do not think they have to do so. If Tibet holds a referendum, I think advocators for unification (in contrast to separatists) will prevail. I had little contacts with the monks but I could feel their reservation and sometimes even hostility. Since I did not get to know their feelings or experiences, I am not qualified to make a comment. However, as a matter of fact, the monks belonged to the upper class before CCP authorities entered Tibet. They did not need to work while they enjoyed privileges and tributes. Not surprisingly, they were not allowed to do this any longer after CPP entered. I do not want to make any comment on the monks but to provide some information for people who are interested in this issue.

 
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Beijing2008_2
Edited by: Beijing2008_2  Mar 28, 08, 02:57  #235

VaFunkoolo wrote:
Have you tried their food?

Talk about throw-up on a plate and serve it with a pair of chop sticks.

Where's my dog?


Hi, I am a Chinese and I will try to communicate with you in your manner.

The custom of eating in a nation is pretty a traditional thing. I took it as part of culture.

Cited from Wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chopsticks

"Chopsticks originated in ancient China as early as the Shang dynasty (1600-1100 BC). and were widely used throughout East Asia."

If you do not want to show respect to other's culture, please do not mind of me asking what kind of utensils your ancestors used to eat at that time, namely, 1600-1100 BC?

Let me follow your tone. Where is...my GOD?




EbonyandBathory wrote:
It's official. Tusk announced today that Poland will boycott the opening ceremonies at least. Poland is the first European country to officially speak out. This makes me nervous about those Chinese-Europe contracts but I can't say I'm not proud of my country. Bravo Polska!


Hi, it appeared to me, a native of China, that Czech was the first one to show the stance instead of Poland. Please pay attention to the words in bold in my citation from BBC.


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/7316477.stm

Polish PM's No to Olympic opening
Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk has said he does not intend to go to the
opening of the Olympics in August in the wake of China's crackdown in Tibet.

In comments to the Dziennik newspaper, confirmed by his spokesman, he said
Poland was a medium-sized country and was not looking to take the first step.

"But my opinion is very clear: the presence of politicians at the Games'
inauguration seems inappropriate."

EU foreign ministers will discuss Tibet at a meeting in Slovenia on Friday.

But so far there has been little appetite for a boycott of the Olympic Games.

EU foreign affairs chief Javier Solana said earlier this month that he would
attend the opening of the Games and Cyprus and Denmark have called for the
event to remain clear of politics.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy has not ruled out a boycott of the opening
ceremony.

Czech President Vaclav Klaus has announced he will not be going to the
opening ceremony although he said his motivation was "not a threat to China".

 
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KasiaR
Edited by: KasiaR  Mar 28, 08, 03:29  #236

I love our prime minister Tusk.

 
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Beijing2008_2
Edited by: Beijing2008_2  Mar 28, 08, 03:38  #237

Seanus wrote:

Nice to see Poland taking the initiative in sth. China is overly defiant at this time and needs to be humbled.


Hi, if you are expecting China to be humble in response, I will feel pity for you and be willful to have you updated. The understanding of mine and some others was that Mr.Qin suggested, the invitation will be issued to Polish Olympic Committee instead of Polish President. It is the Polish Olympic Committee that decides who will be present. Logically, your president is not officially invited by China.

www.sportsya.com/english/news.php/Qin_Gang_said_the_boycott_is_not_aga inst_Beijing_but_against_the_Committees.html?id_estruc=283&id=174034


Qin Gang: "Boycott is against Committees"

After the statements made by Belgium and Czech politicians, who will not attend the Olympic Games, from China it was affirmed that this boycott is not against Beijing.

“The International Olympic Committee and the Beijing Organizing Committee for the 2008 Olympic Games (BOCOG) send invitations to the CONs and allow them to invite the real representatives, heads of state, prime ministers and sport ministers and they are to decide with whom they come with to the opening ceremony,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang stated.

This way, Qin said it is wrong to see the decision of some politicians to miss the opening ceremony as a boycott to the Games.

“The remarks made by some politician are an answer to their countries’ Olympic Committees,” the spokesman added.

“Those distinguished guests coming here will be welcomed by China,” he stated before repeating he really wants this sportive event to be a success.

 
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isthatu
  Mar 28, 08, 07:28  #238

look Peking2008,No one is listening to you because we all know for a hard fact that an ordinery Chinese citizen couldnt view these pages due to the fact that the Tianemen square massacre is mentioned as well as many other human rights abuses that are all firewalled in China,only members of the RED CHINESE states oppresive security services could get away with viewing these pages so,in a word,take your murderous disgusting commie aparatchick arse off somewhere else.

 
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ShelleyS
  Mar 28, 08, 07:38  #239

isthatu wrote:
look Peking2008,No one is listening to you because we all know for a hard fact that an ordinery Chinese citizen couldnt view these pages due to the fact that the Tianemen square massacre is mentioned as well as many other human rights abuses that are all firewalled in China,only members of the RED CHINESE states oppresive security services could get away with viewing these pages so,in a word,take your murderous disgusting commie aparatchick arse off somewhere else


Well said old chap....wonder if he gets the hint..

 
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isthatu
  Mar 28, 08, 07:44  #240

Beijing2008_2 wrote:
Most Tibetans I contacted were civilians instead of monks. Many of them told me straightly that they appreciated China's Communist Party (CCP) for their living conditions were improved. Many Tibetan drivers had Chairman Mao's photo overhanging below the rear mirror.

You poor deluded fool,you turn up in Tibet,probably in your nice shiny copy of a Russian uniform,State Security or what not and expect people to tell you the truth? Whats the mandarin for muppet?

 
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