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Why are Poles always so miserable? Why do they never smile?


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seachild [Guest]
  Nov 14, 06, 07:13  #181

Damn! My ancestry is English and I just found out that I may be Polish! I have multiple personalities.

Why do I take more pride in knowing that I am Polish???
Is it because, in the face of adversity and opression, that Poles are strong people with pride in their country and culture????

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Janf [Guest]
  Nov 14, 06, 07:17  #182

You have to be careful about this one. In my experience the Poles that left a generation ago are very very different to the poles of today. This is not just the simple generation gap. I put it down to all the false hopes that they have endured since the war.
Poles are generally pesimists thats for sure.

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Matyjasz
  Nov 14, 06, 07:24  #183

Quoting: seachild, Post #244
Why do I take more pride in knowing that I am Polish???
Is it because, in the face of adversity and opression, that Poles are strong people with pride in their country and culture????


I think that English people are also strong and take pride in their country and culture when faced by adversary and oppression. If I were you, I would cherish both, your Polish and English roots.


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seachild [Guest]
  Nov 14, 06, 07:31  #184

I just wish I could get more information...... If my father hadn't been so old and I so young when he passed, I would've gotten more information.

Now, I am resorting to clues and traditions to stir me in the right direction....

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Matyjasz
Edited by: Matyjasz  Nov 14, 06, 07:32  #185

Quoting: Janf, Post #245
You have to be careful about this one. In my experience the Poles that left a generation ago are very very different to the poles of today.


Give them an enemy, and you will see, that they will react just like their forefathers. It has to have something to do with the genes.


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Matyjasz
  Nov 14, 06, 07:51  #186

Quoting: Janf, Post #245
This is not just the simple generation gap. I put it down to all the false hopes that they have endured since the war.
Poles are generally pesimists thats for sure.


Well, if you would give all you got and sacrifice your youth, health and all the precious things in your life in some cause for nothing, how would you feel? Theoretically Poland was on the “team” that won WWII, but practically we ended up even worse that west Germany, the country that started the whole madness in the first place. So yeah, I can understand why my grandfather became very skeptical after the war.

Quoting: Janf, Post #245
Poles are generally pesimists thats for sure.


Have you been here around in the 80's? I certainly was, and I perfectly remember that the most frequent answer to the question "How are you doing" was "Lepiej nie pytaj" ("Don't even ask"), while now it's "Powoli" ("Slowly")...Do you see the improvement? I do.

Pozdrawiam.


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dannyboy
  Feb 15, 07, 19:39  #187

lol, hes english, you can see that a mile off. Polish people do not use those expressions!


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compuwiz100 [Guest]
  Mar 23, 07, 09:13  #188

You can "TANGIBLY" feel your feelings????? What does that mean? Do you know what the word tangible means? Look it up. Your satement makes absolutely no sense. You can't tangibly feel something that isn't physically there, as a feeling. Tangible means that you can touch it with your hand and feel it, the texture, and so on. I hope I've helped to educate your off kilter mind.

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BubbaWoo
  Mar 23, 07, 09:18  #189

not gonna contest what youre saying there compuwiz... but just add that as a marketer i go to great extents to add tangibility to non-tangibles...

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Speachless
  Mar 23, 07, 10:41  #190

Thanks to all for the positive. It is so easy to critcize ! I have no time to read all this. I have kids and work to do...so just briefly.
Poland is changing. don't want to stand in line at the bank use on-line banking. It is there.
Poland is recovering very quickly and there are opportunities and there is fun as well. if you don't have fun it is your fault.
if you are depressed, seek help and do not blame the whole nation for making you miserable or leave! Nobody is making you stay in miserable Poland -it is no communizm any more...and even then people found ways to leave, fight and change their plight. it is a very brave nation on the way to recovery...we need positive people and voices to help us out and we don't need negative, joykillers ! Go back to wherever you think is so great and jolly.

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sapphire
Edited by: sapphire  Mar 23, 07, 11:05  #191

I keep telling my man that he's a moody ******, but he doesnt really understand.. can anyone tell me how to say this in Polish?

Oh dear I was censored, but I'm sure you get the drift..f*****r was the word


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Bartolome
Edited by: Bartolome  Mar 24, 07, 08:03  #192

Quoting: sapphire
moody ******

Tell him in English : 'Stop acting like a princess'


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LoneStranger
  Mar 24, 07, 12:25  #193

We smile, laugh and everything cheerful!

This is a thread based on a dim concept about the Poles (which is almost everytime the case).

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Michal
  Mar 24, 07, 13:41  #194

The Polish are not used to taking responsibility and I think that they are unhappy because they know that their jobs are unimportant so they have no motivation. They always blame someone else. It is always the fault of the Russians or the Americans or failing that Churchill. To twija wina-Churchil sprzadal Polske do Stalina! I have heard this saying more often than their national Anthem. A very sad country with so many dishonest people.

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Patrycja19
  Mar 25, 07, 00:32  #195

Quoting: Michal
I think that they are unhappy because they know that their jobs are unimportant so they have no motivation.


Michal, what gave you that bright conclusion? anyone in any job that doesnt pay
is bound to be bitter. why would you come on a polish site and spew garbage?

every man and womans dream is to become something. circumstances in family
or personal reason can set back goals of young perspectives who already have
been accepted into elite colleges. not sent to harvard by mommy and daddy
and had their way all their lives.

one thing I always said, book smart is great, common sense to keep your
hurtful comments to yourself , some just dont have it.


Quoting: Michal
I have heard this saying more often than their national Anthem. A very sad country with so many dishonest people.


studying law and he generalizes. I hope you dont do that in court

dishonest hmm, thats sad that you would think all of Poland is dishonest.
hopefully no one polish enters the courtroom with you in it. they surely go to jail.

if you go back in time. I think my intuition would tell me that alot happened
to poland over the last few centuries and right now they are heading for the
light dont you think? maybe they stole the light? being so dishonest.


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Puzzler
  Mar 25, 07, 02:35  #196

Hm... I wonder if this 'antimonopole' feller is really Polish, or if he only lies that he's 'Polish,' and is, in fact, of totally different extraction? Let's check it out. 'Antimonopole,' are you against the Jewish occupation of the Palestinian land and against the Israeli army and settlers' murdering the Palestinians? Yes or no? My second question to you is: would you call 'buggers' the numerous African folks in Britain? There are scores of them in London alone, much more than, in fact, the Poles. There are also, reportedly, in London alone, hundreds of thousands of French. Would you call them 'buggers' just as well? And how about the countless East Indians, would you call them 'buggers' too? And how about other Asians - Chinese, Koreans, etc.? 'Buggers,' or not? And how about the very numerous Jewish folks in Britain? 'Buggers,' or not? So? PS. Your postings seem to sound quite grim; there's absolutely no sense of humour in them, only, it seems, the psychopathic lust to hurt the Poles, to put them down. Therefore isn't it actually you who are a grim, smileless, psychotic type? Don't you project on the Poles your own grimness and total luck of humour?

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Michal
  Mar 25, 07, 05:26  #197

Rich people can be dishonest too not only poor people as those in Poland. Wealth does not guarantee honesty either. However, as an example, I know of a man polish man living in Denmark returning home by train through Poland with presents. He went to the tioilet and returned to his seat. His drink had been 'spiked' whilst out of the compartment and he later woke up in his underpants! Everything had been stolen so a warning to the travelling public in Poland-never leave an opened drink and then return to it later-you never know what you will find! Of course, I can not say if the guilty were Polish or just using a Polish train. Ask the poor man in question if I am 'spewing garbage' when he woke up and was at first arrested as they (the police) believed that he was drunk. A very nasty situation.

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Bartolome
  Mar 25, 07, 06:00  #198

How does this example match your thesis that wealthy doesn't always mean honest ? I don't catch your drift.


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Michal
  Mar 25, 07, 13:10  #199

How do you know that a wealthy man has earned his money through honesty and hard work? Does a rich man necessarily deserve to be rich? Does the man Abramowich (if I have spelled his name correctly) who owns Chelea Football Club- how has he earned 11 billion pounds? Working the land or down a coal mine? Are rich people always honest and how much money does a rich man deserve. These are two different aspects Like paul McCartny of the Beetles, does he need or deserve 800,000,000 pounds? Did he earn that money or did he receive that money through royalties? Someone can be honest and rich or poor and be dishonest-there is no guarantee either way. Is it too difficult to understand this point? Has this got anything to do with sad Polish faces, which was the theme of the discussion anyway? These is no thesis on my part. The end of this discussion, please.

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AgaBabaJaga [Guest]
  Mar 25, 07, 15:37  #200

Do you smile when you are miserable????

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Michal
  Mar 25, 07, 15:50  #201

I am always miserable and never smile so I do not know the difference.

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espana
  Mar 25, 07, 15:55  #202

Quoting: Michal
I am always miserable and never smile so I do not know the difference.

me too but only when i m with people like antimonopole


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shewolf
  Mar 25, 07, 16:13  #203

Why are you miserable? Why do you never smile?


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pingwin
  Mar 25, 07, 16:39  #204

Quoting: Michal
I am always miserable and never smile so I do not know the difference.



Why are you so miserable and never smile???

Life is such a precious gift that I cherish it even though I have struggles in life. Smiling is just one of those quick pick me ups to enjoy life before I go down permanently.


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Michal
  Mar 25, 07, 16:41  #205

Quoting Puzzler, who lies and says he/she is Polish? Is this a comment addressed to me? I do not know if I am to answer this or is it addressed to someone else?

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miranda
  Mar 25, 07, 16:41  #206

Michal,
smile, it's free!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Michal
  Mar 25, 07, 16:43  #207

Yes, I agree, they say that a sense of humour and a laugh once in a while is a good antidote to the stresses in life.

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Michal
  Mar 25, 07, 16:43  #208

Miranda, nothing in Poland is for free!!!

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pingwin
  Mar 25, 07, 16:49  #209

Quoting: Michal
Miranda, nothing in Poland is for free!!!



Sure there is it's called a friendly SMILE! There always free.


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miranda
  Mar 25, 07, 17:00  #210

Michal,
cheer up. I always watch a comedy or make fun of the people on this forum( it's free) when I am stessed out

For example Pingwin is so funny, ha, ha, ha.......


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