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Poles in Iraq. What's the point?


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Uncle Bob
  Mar 16, 08, 09:20  #151

I was personally thinking about the puppy thrower. Scum.

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Wroclaw
  Mar 16, 08, 09:37  #152

Uncle Bob wrote:
It is only a small metaphorical step from not caring if they took a bullet in the head to actively wanting to do it.


You've been reading too many books. I have no wish to kill anyone. And I couldn't care less if those twats got shot dead. It's people like them who ruin the reputation of others, which leads to more anger from millitants and the deaths of other servicemen.

When I was in the military I never found the need to humiliate people. And are we to suppose that that dog was just wandering around in the mountains ? It obviously belonged to someone.

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szkotja2007
  Mar 16, 08, 09:40  #153

Wroclaw wrote:
other servicemen.

When I said there would be a queue, I was guessing that they woud be at the front of it :-)

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Uncle Bob
  Mar 16, 08, 09:51  #154

Wroclaw wrote:
You've been reading too many books. I have no wish to kill anyone


Im not implying that you do Wroc, afterall, you have a comfortable family life many miles from any armed conflict.

If, on the other hand, you lived in a war zone, had to watch your wife and children being humiliated daily by an insulting and agressive occupying force then that metaphorical step might not seem such a leap.

As you say, its actions like these that lead to more anger from militants... or normal family men who just arent going to take it any more.

And my point is that potentially, its a very fine line that divides the two.

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Wroclaw
  Mar 16, 08, 10:03  #155

Uncle Bob wrote:
And my point is that potentially, its a very fine line that divides the two.


Now I understand your point. And agree.

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isthatu
Edited by: isthatu  Mar 17, 08, 15:38  #156

Lets ask our American friends something. Mexico invades,imposes curfews,raids homes without warrents,drives tanks across your white picket fences and destroys small towns in airstrikes. Hands up all Americans who would fight back. Now tell me the insurgents arnt doing the same,and keep a straight face and no crossed fingers.
I hear there is a growing anti war movement in the states,just like Vietnam all over. Shame its just as hypocritical as the 60s version,less to do with Yankee agresion and civilian deaths and more to do with financial costs and loss of american lives,shamefull.
Oh, And Britain is just as culpable for the slaughter for arse licking bush. Funny,I had no idea I would be in a similar position to right minded germans in the 1930's,that of loving my country but being ashamed of the death and destruction being caused by its leaders and war makers.

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Crow
  Mar 17, 08, 15:45  #157

yes. What's the point?

go back to Poland, Poles and defend western borders of Slavija

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isthatu
  Mar 17, 08, 15:47  #158

What from? All that lovely EU money ? Muppet!

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Crow
  Mar 17, 08, 15:52  #159

isthatu wrote:
What from? All that lovely EU money ? Muppet!

That???

You didn`t convince me. Slavdom is much more profitable

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isthatu
  Mar 18, 08, 07:37  #160

Sure it is crow,sure it is.........see lots of slavic nations crowding the top 10 most economically succesfull naations dont you......

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Crnogorac
  Apr 24, 08, 06:47  #161

Iraqi sniper takes out successfully Americans in Iraq.

"Juba" they say, shoots only once and disappears.

Juba is a pseudonym which American soldiers say with fear and respect because it was assigned as a nickname to the "invisible" and "uncapturable" sniper who hunts American marines in south Baghdad. Even the experienced American "dogs of war" who have behind them campaigns in Somalia and Afghanistan began from the phantom Juba to create a legend, some sort of Iraqi Vasily Zajcev, whose killing accuracy became famous thanks to the movie Enemy at the Gates.

Against Juba's accuracy do not help helmets, neither expensive bullet proof vests or mass of gathered Hummers, because for him one bullet is enough, uncovered part of the body or a moment in which soldiers lurk outside of their vehicle, to mark another tick on the handle of his shotgun. On Juba's conscience are placed killings and woundings of around 50 American soldiers and maybe the most impressive trophy which is acknowledged to him is taking out a 4 member team of sniper specialists in Ramada in June, when all of them were killed with shots to the head. Film with horrific Juba's "handy work" you can watch at this link:

URL

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joepilsudski
  Apr 24, 08, 18:12  #162

isthatu:
Lets ask our American friends something. Mexico invades,imposes curfews,raids homes without warrents,drives tanks across your white picket fences and destroys small towns in airstrikes. Hands up all Americans who would fight back. Now tell me the insurgents arnt doing the same,and keep a straight face and no crossed fingers.
I hear there is a growing anti war movement in the states,just like Vietnam all over. Shame its just as hypocritical as the 60s version,less to do with Yankee agresion and civilian deaths and more to do with financial costs and loss of american lives,shamefull.
Oh, And Britain is just as culpable for the slaughter for arse licking bush. Funny,I had no idea I would be in a similar position to right minded germans in the 1930's,that of loving my country but being ashamed of the death and destruction being caused by its leaders and war makers.


All true...and the anti-war movement has been growing, but it gets little or no play in the mainstream press...the problem in America is media brainwashing, and it is very sad...we had the Prsidential primary in Pennsylvania on Tuesday (April 22) and I worked at the polls...I would say that 95% of the people who came to vote in my district are against the war...but another sad thing: I was very proud to see my fellow Americans come out and vote, as they believe in our democratic system, and want to make a difference...but the choices they were offered, Clinton, Obama & McCain are all ******** artists who voted for funding for every Iraqi war bill...many of these voters are under the mistaken impression that Obama opposes the war...in fact, the only candidate who has always voted against any war funding, the Republican Ron Paul, was driven off the campaign by pressure and threats...but Representative Paul was on the Pennsylavania ballot, so he got my vote.

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szkotja2007
  Apr 25, 08, 06:11  #163

Crnogorac:
to mark another tick on the handle of his shotgun.

Druganov
SVD rifle

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janekb
  Apr 26, 08, 23:34  #164

Poles traditionally are in unreciprocated love with the US.
That the US citizenry was duped using a scare tactic by the chief idiot and his evil handlers comes as no surprise, considering level of political education of the population.
I was hoping that Poles learned from the hard lessons of history, mistaken once more.
My hope is that the present Polish government will come to some senses and not try to outdo all others to be the most reliable partner (lap dog).
One should also remember (pointed out in somebody's comment here) that in case of an attack by the foreign power even the most divided nations unite to fight common enemy. Wounds of war will be remembered for generations. One can hope that retributions, for this so unjust and devastating attack by the US, will not bring terrorist to Poland.
If Polish rulers want to accommodate US masters allow them to recruit volunteers, but do not let these wear Polish insignia.
Economical help from the US - idiot and company ruined the US for generations.

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Nicoletka
  May 2, 08, 13:00  #165

Oh my god!!! Ive been thinking about this topic for months and here it is so I just had to share my views. I am Polish born in the U.S but am proudly Polski! Actually I am very much for the old Polish regime or should I say Eastern European togetherness. Why cant we just stick together? We did fine without western involvement and f**king NATO! That is exactly why prices are soaring in eastern europe. Wake up Poland we are being used to get into Russia its been the goal since the cold war and before. We are used as cheap labour in the western world because they know how willing to work we are now they are using us to fight their f**king battles! PLEASE tell me why? For Americans to sit on their fat ASS? All we got from the west was a bullsh*t democracy and look what that has done people can no longer afford bread! If we are going to fight a war let it be us against the west. The grass is not greener on the other side. I lived in the US for 10 years and I have citizenship but I would give it up for Poland.

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joepilsudski
  May 3, 08, 13:12  #166

Poles in Iraq. What's the point?

No point at all.

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Seanus
  May 29, 08, 13:37  #167

Would u prefer a return to communism Nicoletka? U'd have to plan ur toilet visits, LOL

I agree with joepilsudski.

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southern
  May 29, 08, 14:13  #168

What if Obama gets in office?Will he give Poles compensations when he will withdraw the troops from Iraq or will he give them accusations of cooperating to Bush policy?And what will happen to the enterpreneurs and businessmen who will stay in Iraq after american troops have got away?

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Seanus
  May 29, 08, 14:41  #169

youtube.com/watch?v=48KVZXroyjA, say it again y'all.

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isthatu2
  May 29, 08, 17:05  #170

southern:
And what will happen to the enterpreneurs and businessmen who will stay in Iraq after american troops have got away?

er,they will ,erm,get like killed and stuff dude.....

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Seanus
  May 29, 08, 17:11  #171

I thought garrisons were a thing of the past, how wrong I was

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