Poles are not racist

Aah, shame. I had hoped your opinion and statements would have come from a polish human being. i have/want to be open minded since i'm German and German history has taught me a lesson or two what can happen if you're not, even though that was long before i was born. Never Again! At the same time i'm black and i know exactly what would have happened to me had i lived in Germany 60 years ago. And so should the poles. Even more confusing why -surely not all-, but all I met would adapt this sick ideology, or parts of it?!

One of the very best. Whether it's good or bad, you'll probably find it in London.

I shot an ad film with a director from LA. He said that whenever he needed to find the latest trends or the touch the pulse of the mainstream youth, he makes a beeline not to NY, Paris or Milan - but to London. Because that's where 'cool' lives, he rekcons. Not many disagreed.

Why ?

Personally I find it weird when a German starts preaching about morals and tolerance to Polish...
Why is it that the "tolerant" German men come to Finland and rest of North Europe to find blonde women (many of them are fake btw). Isnt that rascist behavior ?

I bet they were muslims from Arabic countries or something ? Why they are allowed to flirt with "infidel" women but "infidel" men are not allowed to flirt with Moslem women. So thats why I am not very keen on having more and more Muslims in Europe. BTW why the are not the western feminists taking on this hypocrisy ? Maybe because it is benefiting them too: western women have bigger pool of men to choose from.

there`s a diference between being racist and nacionalist! And nationalist are different from patriots!
the idea i have is that poland is nationalist and not so much racist.
But thats what i think from watching the news, i`ve never been there, yet, so i could be wrong.

I think there are rascist people wherever you go unfortunately. It is not a white problem, but one of human beings across the board of every colour and race wanting to treat others who are different, unfairly and with disrespect. In Guyana - South America - where my parents are from, there has always been racial tension between Blacks and Indians, which was encouraged by the British when Guyana was a collony. They applied the 'Divide and Rule' principle which they always use to weaken resistance against Imperialism.

The idea is simple. Focus peoples attentions on hating each other. Play on their fears such as differences in religion, colour, culture, wealth etc.. between the races within a country and while they are busy fighting each other, the people who have invaded and taken over your land, are happily still owning it. Dictators in Europe, Africa and everywhere else in the world do the same, to turn attentions away form the fact they are not interested in the welfare of the people ultimately, but in fufilling their own sinister political and financial agendas.

My boyfriend is Polish and he is not at all rascist as I am Indian and Black. He does say that the Polish are very rascist and behind the times. There are alot of Polish where I live in West London and unfortunately, he understands when they call me a n**ger and has come very close to putting someone in hospital on several occassions. He hates when this happens to me and says that he is sick of the Polish in London and is ashamed.

We went to a Polish restaurant next door to the Polish Centre in Hammersmith on Kings Street and they refused to serve us because he was with me. My brown skin was obviously not acceptable in there. I felt like a black person must have felt in the deep south of the USA in the 1960's when black people could not eat with white people in the same section of an eating establishment. I hope the place burns down one day. I was born in the hospital about 5 minutes away from that restaurant, but the people who work in there, who can't even speak English and are immigrants wouldn't serve me in my own country.

On the other hand, our favourite Polish restaurant in Shepherds Bush 'The Patio' a little further down the road is excellent and the people in there are very nice. Especially the Polish Lady who runs it. I love the food in there.

There are good people and bad people in this world of every colour and race. I think there are more good than bad. Luckily Iam with one of the good guys. : )

I think the Polish areas of W.London have become a bit of an embarrassment to Poles over the last couple of years due to alot of the more recent arrivals. Poles I know who had previously said they didnt want to live anywhere else are now saying they want to get out as the criminal element has migrated over after the students and economic migrants. Maybe/hopefully the ones you've had issues with are from this recent influx of bumpkins and underclass rather than because of Poles in general.

That sounds a bit strange ? It's against the law to do that and i don't believe that happened, for the reasons you state. And if it did, surely you would have reported them by now ?

Also, my parents weren't rascist and they were Polish........I'm not too sure where you are coming from really. I've read some of your posts and sympathised with your predicament a few times but I'm quite puzzled now at some of the things you state, to be honest.

I've never heard a polish person use the word 'n**ger '

That's because they say "czarnuch" instead. :(

Shameful behaviour... but the food's rubbish in there anyway, so you didn't miss much.



Thank heavens you know the Patio. There really is no need to go anywhere else for Polish food in west London. Well, except maybe a Polish home, obviously. :)

Reminds me of what used to happen to me and a Jamaican girlfriend in a Chinese restaurant near where we used to live. They would be almost bowing down to the white, middle-aged, middle class couples and families in there... whereas we would get all the attitude and the worst table. It took a few visits to really notice this properly (at first we just thought it was bad service), but eventually it dawned on us what the deal really was, and we never went back after that. Such a shame, because the food was amazing, but there was no way we were going to continue to fill the pockets of scum like that. :(

It is strange for an English person like me absolutely. Im not used to be treated like that in my own country, but it DID happen 100%. Just because you have never experienced it yourself, doesnt mean I am not telling the truth. Yes it is against the law, but do you think the Police would go down and arrest them ? How do I prove it ? Dont be so Knaive.

Quote one part of my post that shows me saying that I think all Polish people are rascist???
Read my post again. NOWHERE DO I SAY THAT.

See above, where does it say all Poles are rascist ?????

Are you black ?? If not, it is highly unlikely that you would have heard the word N****r mentioned. I HAVE heard it. Again, just because you have not experienced something doesn't mean it hasn't happened.



See, other people have had similar experiences because they have been in similar situations, so this proves it isnt such a rare occurance.

You are puzzled about my post because you are puzzled about yourself. My post is clear to anyone with a good understanding the English Language. You like puzzler are seeing words in my posts that I have not even put there. That I am afriad does suggest that you have a degree of confusion about your own point of view regarding rascism.

Good for you Grzes. Most of the posts are really embarrassing. It is a shame, since Poles should know what it means to be discriminated against.

My boyfriend wrote something about this in Polish and I think you have seen it Eurola as you have replied to it, but I can't see it here anymore. Thats strange.

Probably removed by Admin. Posts should be written only in English.

yes, couldn't agree more. I have mixed baby... on my way home, on the aroplain full of polish ppl they stare at me and started 2 call me names like that b....ch, a h....re, jusyt becouse I hade mixed kid... but I had ppl who loved my babe too. and yes poles r racist, not all thou!

You shouldn't always assume other people haven't experienced certain things. I was merely surprised you didn't report the incident because you do appear to be someone who would stand up for their rights. Also, I'm not naive as you infer. Furthermore, I am fully aware of how the Commission for Racial Equality (CRE) operates in the UK, and they operate very successfully in cases in the area's you referred too. Rather than complain about it in a forum, surely it's better to ensure that future mixed race couples don't face the same treatment. It's up to everyone to fight racism at every stage :)

I have nothing to do with Puzzler, I only know him from his posts on this forum.

I never said, that you said that 'All poles are racist'........I just said my parents weren't. Would help if you read my post, as you don't appear to have read it correctly ?



I'm sure non Polish people in the UK mention it, but I merely said I had not heard a polish person mention it. There is nothing wrong in me posting that in my message, it's a factual comment.



No, I'm not but what has that got to do with my reply to you ?



Not at all. You are quite incorrect in your assumptions. I just cannot understand why, a person like yourself would not have taken the matter further, rather than complain about it on an open forum. As I said before everyone has to fight to ensure future generations don't face similar problems....that's how we got here today.

You don't know anything about me or my life so don't make assumptions about whether or not I have experienced or faced any racism before and I saw nothing wrong in my previous posting to you. I was not insulting you or calling you any names. You appear to be one very angry person :(

I'm with you on that. As we have laws against being discriminated against on the grounds of our color, race, religion or sexual orientation, i find it strange that the incident wasn't reported.

You dont come across as a person who as experienced what I am talking about due to the fact that you seem to have a hard time believing what I said. I didn't feel the need to go to the trouble of approaching the C of R E due to the fact that I don't care enough about some half wits in a crappy restaurant to go to the trouble.



In English, this statement suggests that I am accusing all Polish people of being rascist.



I meant the Polish version of the word N****r.



It has a lot to do with it. You do not know what it is like, as you are a white person with regards to the treatment of black people in britain.
The quote below was made by someone who had a Jamaican girlfriend. He may be white BUT he has an understanding you dont have, as he had a relationship with a black girl and was therefore witness to similiar experiences.

Also



Having an opinion that does not mirror yours, does not make me an angry person. If someone writes something I want to comment on, I do. Thats the point of the forums isnt it ?



HELLO - I AM ENGLISH !! I do know the laws of my own land thank you very much. I didnt report it because I couldnt be bothered. The people were backward peasants, their loss not mine. I can eat lovely Polish food at the Patio in Shepherds Bush and have a lovely time with my boyfriend, so screw them.

most people worldwide (including you) are of peasant descent unless they happen to be descendents of royalty or nobility. so please do not discriminate against us regular folk.

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You don't know me or what experience I have had, do you. So again you are jumping to conclusions :(



I can see that but as I said before, you are quite vociferous with your views and I just thought you would have been interested in ensuring other similar people didn't encounter such problems by reporting the restaurant for what happened. i would have. If everyone buried their head in the sands and just voiced off about it and didn't do anything, then the UK would not have the very comprehensive race laws that are now in place. So I have to assume you aren't interested in that at all ?



No ! In English, my sentence means exactly what i wrote not how you decide to re write it , to fit in with the way you wish to interpret it.

I meant what i wrote, nothing more, nothing less.




Oh but I do know :) but like you i don't come onto a forum to complain about something I can report and get dealt with in the correct manner. Black people are not the only people who can be discriminated on and just because someone does not disclose all their personal information on a forum, it does not mean they have no experience on any of the issues you mention.



That was my point exactly !! Yet, you seem to think only you can comment on what you wrote because you are black !!

....i hear you

Well, the creature calling itself 'Murzynka' is a virulently racist-fascist Polonophobic bully and liar, as far as I'm concerned. Just look at what this creature has scribbled under the thread on the Negro type who infected Polish women with HIV. It's a disgrace to talk seriously and respectfully to a creature of this ilk.

- Wow! What a poor victim you are! - Which 'aroplain' was that? Can you give the date of the flight and its number? Haven't you made up the whole alleged incident? Another psychotic liar?

- Do the laws in question also punish for discrimination against nationality, e.g. against the Polish nationality? Can one 'report' a virulent racist Polonophobe like 'Murzynka'?
If not, aren't the laws in question - racist?

- Did the incident really happen? - Considering what liar this creature is, I doubt it. And if they allegedly 'refused to serve,' was it really because of 'Murzynka's' 'brown skin,' or because of something else, e.g. the creature insulted them in a racist way?

- This expression certainly expresses a racist Polonophobic stereotype. Another proof of Murzynka's Polonophobia.

What kind of Pole is her boyfriend that he puts up with a creature like this? I wouldn't touch her with a ten-foot pole.
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- Thank you. I've got nothing to do with cowards like you.

The quote you took from one of my posts was in answer to a previous poster. Why you have then written I am a coward, for stating that, I only know you from what you post on this forum, is utterly beyond comprehension. It's a fact. I do not know you other than from what you post on Polish Forums. So what is the problem here then ?

Because I have absolutely no idea.