What do Poles think about Turks?

I don't think Turks are like Greeks, Greeks mix, Turks dont, simple as that. There are some similarities in complexion (both have olive skin, but thats down to climate)and food, but I'd say I could tell a Greek from a Turk 9 out of 10, the very odd and occasional good looking Turk will pass for a Greek ;-)

I'd say in terms of national pride and holding a resentment towards your neighbors - Poles/Turks are similiar. Plus when the hard booze starts flowing....

Greeks/Turks are simliar because they are neighbors, much like you would say Poles/Russians or Germans are smiliar but you wouldn't say Germans and Russians are similiar.

I dunno, it's a difficult question, but overall I'd say I have a lot of respect for Turks and think they mean well. I know there is a huge percentage of them in Germany and when that happens obviously your gonna encounter the worse that they have to offer at the same time. Kebab with sourkraut was very odd to me .....

In my opinion Poles have slavic culture,Germans have western culture and Greeks have mediteranean culture.Turks have turkish culture.
Turkish culture is very remote from slavic culture in most terms.Mediteranean culture is maybe closer to slavic culture than western culture is(for example family bonds,leisure,esthetic) but is remote on some other terms.(Slavs have more natural manners and freedom in my opinion while after Roman Empire freedom left mediteranean countries).

Interesting man

turks are the outcome of the combination with greeks though. So they have similarities.

Turks are Europeans. More than 600 years of contact with all the european nations.
Turkish land was very close to Vienna in 1600's. Our face was always look to west.
We have great knowledge about Greeks, Serbs, Hungarians, Albanians, Bulgarians, Slovaks, Habsburg Austria, Lechs.

Yes, Turks are muslim and Europeans are mostly christain. So what ?
This religional difference doesn't mean that Turks are not European.
I think some of the Europeans are more radical and conservative in that issue than Turks.

The Turks are a bridge culture, Eurasia, between West and East. -:)

It is much easier to define Europe than it is to define Asia. Europe is a term that has been around longer than Islam, and it is Turkey's Islamic status that seems to be the principal reason many people say that Turkey is not in Europe. Many definitions put Turkey as being both in Europe and Asia, rather in the same way as Russia is, only with Turkey, it's just that little bit on this side of the Bosporus that is in Europe. But perhaps it's not so much about where we are from, but about where we are going.

so you say, if we people who live in turkey were christians then we would be considered as europeans?

Let them keep the bridge.At least they are out.



You mean Europe was vandalized till close to Vienna.



Yes,you learned a lot from european nations.So much as to steal and loot all occupied lands and bring them to stagnation.



You shlould know how great our knowledge of Turks is.It is so great that we are happy they cannot enter Europe again.



If you were christians,you would be Greeks.Is this a question to make?
And if Saudi Arabia were christian,would there be no terrorists?

Merely curious again, Southern. Just what is your nationality?-:)

Southern, you are really a problematic person. Although your knowledge in different areas are high, you can't make healty analysis. Because you are not open minded. You have some obsessions . One of them is ''Turks''


As you know, from the beginning of creation of humankind, humans fight, make wars each other without stoping. Last example USA in Iraq. If a country fells itself strong begins to attack other countries. Byzantium empire was the same, Roma empire was the same. England and France made wars for 100 years. Ottoman Empire was also very strong in that centuries and conquer a lot of country in Europe.
Why you think when Turks conquer your country, it is vandalism ? When Byzantium empire did the same it is not?
This is also same for all conquerers. Indians in USA will laugh you when they remember and compare what they live when the modern European man come to America.

Don't be so sure. There are also analytical thinking people in Europe.

Also, I can't tell I hate Americans, Greeks, Germans, Arabics etc. How can you hate Turks. This is pathetic. One case study : İf Southern is ill and only a Turkish doctor will have to take care of him. What happens ? My answer : Southern rejects Turkish doctor. Because he hates Turks.

He's Greek so he probably dislikes Turks

Europe as the Germans understand is it the "christliches Abendland"...it's our heritage and our cultural imprint even if not all are regular church goers.
Turkey is so much different that those few square miles which officially belong to Europe mean nothing.
We don't want Mosques in our countries, nor muezzins howling in our streets, nor discuss if our women have to wear a headscarf...period!
Turkey is so not Europe!

actually it was other way around: are women allowed to wear a headscarf

Why starting such a thread? Isn't it obvious what most Poles think of them?

The migrants have no willing to adjust to our norms - bring their own coulture and habits and contaminate our lands with it. They kill their sisters who date ouside turkish comunities. They gang together and destabilize the parts of towns they inhabitate in larger numbers. They sell crappy drugs which endanger the health of our youth.

New problem is that much money in Turkey has been made by migrants in Europe - the Turks in Turkey are averagelly more educated and less religioulsy radical than those peasants from anatolia who left turkey in the last decades. This new power brought into Turkey led to a weakaning of the secularistic government in Turkey.

Yes, if Europe is a ''Christain Club'' we will never be in it. Because this means Europe is still managed by religion. In that age it is really funny. And Europe has no future with this point of view.

In Turkey, some of the people trying the same thing. Make Turkey radical islamic. But you see they can't manage. Because in Turkey islamic approach is ; religion is meaningful between one person and God not between two person. But unfortunately Europeans like bratwurst boy is like radical islamics.

The problem is Europeans thinks Turks thinks like themselves about religion but it is wrong. There is a great difference between the Otooman Empire and Turkish Republic. İf you always look 300 years ago you can't see today.

Alone the Turks in Germany make already many problems due the difference in the cultural heritage...only some very naive people would believe that wouldn't be the case in a much bigger form if the whole of Turkey would join the EU!

EU is not everything for Turkey. But it will benefit to Turkey and Europe both.

From your words, it is very clear that Turks in Turkey and Turks in Europe are not the same. Turks begin to migrate to Europe in 1965. All the migrants were peasants and uneducated. Never see a city other than military obligation for men. Their economic activity was agriculture and raising livestock. In Turkey's GNP agriculture was one the first items in that years.

Almost 45 years past. Turkey and Turkish people changed a lot. High percentage of people are living in big cities, uneducated people are very few. GNP services and industry are ahead, agriculture lower. Dynamic, young population interested about world. High potantial.

How can Turkish people in Europe can not change in 45 years. I don't think it is the fault of Turkish people living in Europe. It is obviously the fault of European Governments for years. They did not think them their people. They seperate them from own people. Then reaction occured in the Turks.

Bradwurst boy says young Turks try to kill an old German who warned them not to smke in the bus. In Turkey if a young man sits in a bus and an old man stands, young man stands up and gives his place to old man. This is a Turkish tradition.
How can a young Turkish man do such a thing in Germany ?

Germans are really guilty. Because they couldn't manage to adopt Turkish people to their community.

Bratwurst Boy,

think you then that the Turkeys in Europe come, as member nation (Mitgliedsstaat), I am meaning? Is this right?

Sorry for my 'false' English. -:) Please correct me my mistakes. (he-he!)

Sure...
If the invited guest in a house refuses to go again, messes up the house, lazies around on the couch, uses the food in the fridge without paying, mocks the house wife, gets violent and disrespectful at the house owner whenever he says something it's the house owners fault, yes?

I tell you what, the lone fault of the house owner is that he still avoids more drastic measures like calling police and Bundeswehr to kick you out!
He still tries to talk to this sh*itty guest to get some sense into him...

Oh and you still didn't say how Europe would profit from a turkish member.....



I don't care for your statements and even less for your grammar...oh and you can keep my errors! he-he

In Turkey, Turks don't behave like this. How Turks chanced so badly has to be investigated. Congratulations Germany. İf you not exagerating, we can't admit this people to Turkey. Because we can't live with them. You say they are Turkish but they don't behave according to Turkish habits.

such a silly example. turks were not guests in germany they came there to set up a new life. if you were talking about tourists that could be a valid example maybe, but no, still silly anyway.

and how can you say them go? like, "for years we made you make all the dirty and hard jobs to make our country develop faster, we treated you as second class people and now we don't need you anymore, leave our country". sure sure they would leave.

the fact is germany took the most uneducated, poor and villager turks to make them work like slaves. and now you say you are suffering from them. what did you expect? it's all your fault. now instead of insulting turks and wishing them to leave, germans must try to integrate them to society. if it's hard, it's your problem. but making them to work in heavy jobs was easy wasn't it?

Turks in Turkey don't concern me...a people like everybody else and I respect you!

It's your immigrants who are uprooted and now only present the worst of both worlds.
Another reason why to much immigration is not good....



They were invited as "guest workers", Gastarbeiter!
Nobody wanted or expected them to stay...the beginning of the Drama...



We didn't took them...they came voluntarily, happy for the chance to escape their anatolian poverty. They earned much more money for less hard work than on their fields in Anatolia...they didn't complain!



Nope...it's the immigrant who has to accomodate to the host country, not the other way around!
That's a ground rule in all civilized societies!

That Turks won't accept that and to the contrary blame the host country for the misgivings of the immigrants is somehow typical and also a bad sign for the willingness to integrate in the EU.
What if there are problems? Are you then also give the EU all the blame???

PS: And if Germany is so unbearable the Turks would flee the country, would they not? But they don't, they like it here more than in Turkey....inspite of all the problems! Should tell you something...

Wow. You make it sound like these people didn't leave their own country to travel to another country to improve their lives more than they were able to do at home wasn't actually their choice. It's almost as if you are suggesting that Germans went to Turkey to kidnap the locals and make them work for them back in germany.

Isn't it sad that so many Turks see the option of staying in Germany as apparent second class citizens as a better option than returning to their own country.

This tread is soon to be on its 14 page or whatever you computer gurus call it, i never knew Polish people thought for so long about Turks. Well just goes to show

As a result, Turks in Germany are not like Turks in Turkey and are not like Germans in Germany.

SO THEY CAN BE A BRİDGE BETWEEN GERMANY AND TURKEY.

(This means they have to stay where they are now until look like someone)

Many neither speak proper German nor proper Turkish...they brag about when they are
visiting Turkey and are unpopular there...turkish boys are disrespectful to their teachers, disrespect non-muslims generally...they have therefore seldom work, jobs, a future....many become frustrated, violent...aggressive!
The german society dismisses them.

They are uprooted from their turkish heritage and not rooted in the german society and culture...they can't be a bridge!

they went cause they were poor in turkey too. hoped to get a better life in europe. and germany invited them, didn't they? they wanted turks to work for them and go but just choosed wrong people for this, and didn't work. it was obvious that poor ignorant villagers was not able to get used to german lifestyle and won't wish to go back. if they were happy in turkey they wouldn't go to germany. and after working hard for years they wanted to live their life in germany in a more comfortable way, you can't blame them. germany had to calculate its consequences before they invite these people. yes it's sad for me that turkey has lower life quality than germany but it's the truth.


actually germans and greeks wrote more than poles.

Please correct me my English Marek? Please correct my English for me, maybe.