What do Poles think about Turks?

As a Turkish My Vote is NO! We r Asian rather than European..so with this culture difference we cant be adapted to EU..

At least one confession.

I repeat, were I a citizen of an EU-member state such as France or Germany, I too might have second, third, even fourth, thoughts about Turkey joining 'Club Europa'. However, being pragmatic, I may just have to accept the inevitable, bury the hatchet and retrench from there.

Those holding out until the very last stand, will only lose in the end if they maintain this 'do or die' strategy!

Why do u think it is a confession? İt is just the reality not the confession...Should I confess that I m Asian?:) DOnt be funny.Cant u see it yourself when u open the map?

The Turkey becoming a member of the EU is hardly "inevitable"....

First results :

Yes : 1
No : 3

I don't think that we are Asian rather than European. We are Turks.
I don't feel an Arab, Iranian, Indian or Chinese more closer to me than an European.
Yes, I feel closer to Azerbaycan, Turkmenistan, Khazakistan, Uzbekistan, Kırgızistan, Tataristan, Bashkurdistan, Chuvashistan, Uyghurs in China which are all Turkic nations. And they are also different from other Asians like us.

Turkey never begs to Europe. There can be mutual benefits if Turkey enters Europe. But I believe, if it is not realized Turks Union which is 160.000.000 population will be ok. for us. Than Europe can think of her fault.

Now that sounds more reasonable... a turk union....why not? Go for it I say!

Who says we don't.
We only give one chance to old Europe.
It is in our gens to go always to the West. In the history, Avars, Huns, Ottomans are all Turks.
But this time we want to reach to our goal with peace of course.
Sorry but I am not sure if we will give up even if we manage Turk Union.

I respect Turks for their efforts to modernize to society. They fared far better than in arab countries. As for membership in EU, dont know. Religion shouldnt play an issue here, even though I am not a fan of Islam.

To compare Turkey with Arab countries is sth. like comparing any European country with Vatikan.

To prevent misunderstanding, I don't mean Arab countries are holy for Turks, but like in Vatikan, in Arabic countires religious laws applied into daily life. In Turkey although % 99 of the nation is muslim, there is not any islamic law for daily life. Turkey is secular and religion is between people and God.

I have to agree here.

I've heard of Bashkhortostan, aka Bashkiria. But Chuvashistan - is this a formally recognised title?

Correction :

Çuvaşistan is in Turkish. But in English it is Chuvash Republic.

This only makes me wonder what it is in Chuvash. I had read once that they make very nice beer there, but it's a long way to go just for a few bottles, so I'll probably never find out.

Having read a little more to confirm what I had already thought on the subject of the Chuvash people, they are predominantly Russian Orthodox by religion, although older pagan beliefs continue to some extent (there seems to be no Islam in the mix there). They are probably largely descended from Finno-Ugric people like many of their neighbours, as well as from Turkic peoples. The overwhelming majority speak Russian as a second language, or even now as their first language. The Chuvash language itself seems to be the most distant from all the other Turkic languages.

How close to Turkey does this put them? It would be interesting to know how much they do have in common.

What is funny is that by a meeting of turkish prime minister with president of Turkmenistan in the 90's the latter told the turkish prime minister who hoped to build a pan-turkik union under the rule of Turkey that Turks from Turkey are not real Turks,they are very soft and the real Turks are the Turks of Turkmenistan.This president behaved like a super-king.He is the only president to have a huge golden statue of him built in the center of capital while he was still alive!

First you have to read about Turkic Languages below ;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_languages

You neglected to mention that it even rotated slowly throughout the day to follow the path of the sun across the sky.

Turkmenbashy - a true mentalist if ever there was one.

he also put his picture on banknotes, and after he painted his hair to black he seized all old banknotes and published new ones with his brand new black hair. changed name of the months, as january replaced with his name, another month with his mother's name. funny man at all, even funnier is he was the president of a country.

by the way they say we are not real turks, and arabs say we are not real muslims, europeans say we are not real europeans. one day they'll make a human union and i'm afraid they'll say that we are actually not real humans :P

I call this exaggerated Nationalism...this doesnt change the fact that we r Asian.. '' I dont feel like Asian, I feel like Turkish '' this sounds funny explanation for me:) And this Turkish Union Utopia is just more than being Funny..Your imaginations shouldnt be so limited with being the Leader of a loosers community..

true. i think we are just trying find a way to benefit from their natural resources. turkish union, sounds impossible.

What's your solution morella ? You say we are Asian. So where do you think Turkey has to take part ? With Arabs ? or be alone ? What do you think about the future of Turkey ? If you are capable of thinking.

All the people loves his/her country. Southern loves Greece, Bratwust boy Germany, Polish people Poland. Does it mean exaggerated nationalism. A polish likes slavic nations I think. Or a German Austria.

We have to think our countries future. Turkic republics are close to us.
I also also add Russia and Iran to this union. What will you think now ?
Your answer will be I am Assian I guess.

So how similar are Yakuts, Uzbeks, Chuvash and the Turkish bloke in my local kebab shop?


A bit of overlap with Crow's Slavic union there. A bit risky?

Even funnier was he considered himself the archetypal Turk.

İs this titles name How To Solve Turkey's Problems? or Finding An Accompany For Turkey? if the disscussion will go there, there r already many Turkish websites in the internet like this..First we have to educate our own people then jump in to international forum pages at this topic...First inner problems should be solved to be able to cope with outern problems...if not we would be just creating Fantasies here..

An unrelated thread, Maxx, but it has been asserted numerous times over the years by various linguists, that the Finnic or 'Fenno-Ugric' languages are in fact related to the Turkic :)

You know, while Poland was divided for 123 years the Ottoman leader had left a place spare at his diplomatic table for the polish representant to return. THIS WERE NICE TURKS. They even titled Sobieski as the "invicible lion from the north" after he destroyed their armees. They should not forget it!
Now Turkey stays a potential threat but a honorable enemy. In times of peace it can be a good businesspartner - but under curent circumstances many prefer to stay out of their way as the migrants in Europe destroyed the once noble picture we had of them.


So finns and hungarians languages have been influenced in the past by the old noble ottoman empire - great for you. And even better both tribes have white skin and their women do smell like ours. They are acceptable visitors, wifes and husbands.

Morella, you are really saying nothing. Behaving like this you can win the Noble Prize like Orhan Pamuk who is nothing in Turkey.

Meanwhile, what's your education my poor man ?

No. The theory goes like this:

Ural-Altaic languages (if such a group does truely exist), includes Finno-Ugric and Samoyedic language (Uralic) and Turkic, Tungusic and Mongolic (Altaic) languages. There is debate as to whether they do form a group in the way that Indo-European languages do.

Then, Hungarian has been influenced at various times by Turkic languages, whereas Finnish hasn't (certainly not by the Ottoman Empire).

To prawda, Tomku :)

An agreement in fact was reached some years ago regarding the loan from Finland of much needed vowels by the Hungarians, who, lacking that particular type of letter, wanted to sue for historical theft of their vowels by the Finns way back when.

The story, while doubtless apocryphal, caused quite a stir within the the Fenno-Ugric community -:) -:) LOL

Czy mówisz po finsku, turetsku albo po węgiersku?