What do Poles think about Turks?

Haha...u showed again 2 turks cant talk normally..when there r 2 turks in one place, there must be an argument or a fight btw them for sure:) I suppose u r a MHP racist, may be ı m wrong but your comments make me think like that...I m an advocate so a law graduate, if this is what u want to learn..I m not a barmen in Alanya dont worry...U r just funny with your comments u know:)Think wide, dont be so poor...İf u say to me the bullsh.t '' Leave or Love'' I m at the side of leaving..but it doesnt mean that I dont love my country.ı just dont love it in the same way which the racists like u did...Coz of the people who think like u, Turkey is a 3rd World Country still..Wake Up.....U say ''if EU doesnt want us We dont care it, we establish Turkish Nations Union'' u speak just childishh....İf we r not accepted to EU there is a reason for this unacceptance...think and solve the problems in your country..Development and Civilization is in the West, not in Asia....Try to adapt Europe..make your brain adapted too, my boy:)And dont switch the discussion to Turkey's problems or the fight btw two Turks...be a little more mature..ı left such discussions years ago when ı was a child, coz ı saw no improvement is happening in this country we just waste time with fighting eachother...and now I m visiting this title to learn so more things about what Poles think about Turks, and learn what sort of situations ı will face with when ı move there...so dont f.ck the title pls...here r people who wants to learn sthg more instead of Turkey's problems..

What kind of reason is that in your opinion?

Just a simple example very simple one...'' EU says us change this code for this reason to adapt this'' and we change it in 1 night in parliement as we r asked.I must admit that we r very fast changing codes even without any discussion:) But the confusing part is, we never obey it:) we do that change just on paper ..we r just trying to fake EU... first we have to educate people to obey what the new code says.if not then, it would be just a lie

Turkey is a big country and not everybody supports the new reforms. Many desire a more religious-conservative goverment. Pull a line down, east of Izmir, Bursa and Istanbul - in the west you'll have openminded people who are more openminded then the migrants we have experience with, in the east you'll have poorly educated peasants and islamists.

The EU say this, the EU says that. Do you ever considered such possibility that on some subjects Turkish government may be right and European Union wrong?



Are you a democrat?

I have been writing for this topic for almost one month. My first post was # 189. I have sent a lot of posts reflecting my opinions. Your first post # 413 was the one above which is about your curiosity where I am which nobody interests writing for this topic which could only be written by ignorant people. This is your level. Then you began to attack to me without any contribution to the topic which is very personal. Although I don't want to argue with you I forced to answer your posts.

You are a provacator and we have got a lot of people like you in our country. I will not announce which party I vote for to you which is not about this topic. You know ''curiousity kills the cat'' pay attention to your health.

Everyone has his/her own opinions and explain them freely.

You are not so important for me to target and write about. I want to write about the topic for other participants.

nope.

hahaaa..u r just a funny kid as ı thougt:) u had no reply for my last message ı c:)u r a child...ok lets not to waste people's time here with our personal argument u MHP racist:) Live and think as u wish ı dont care unless it effect my and other people's freedom who think like me in this country...



Can u give me an example that we r right if u know so much about Turkey and Turkish culture and Turkish people, really ı m open to new ideas, please inform me ı wonder alot what u meaned:)

In Turkey educated people don't curse like that.
My question will be for all the participants.
Do you want me to leave ?

:) u r just a child..I cant find something else to describe u:) hey whats your problem? first relax and then we will be able to make a normal conversation just relax first..Your messages r live proof of what ı said about u were true.I m sure ı m more educated than u if u r doubtful about this:)so just be calm then everything will be easier!

For whatever it's worth, I'm always a little surprised when I encounter people who think that Turks and Arabs are the same:) The degree of ignorance in this country (USA) about Turkey is shocking.

Marek ı suppose u r a turkish, m ı wrong?

Till now I just asked questions, I don't follow Turkish politics, so I cannot give you any examples. However I know that euro-bureaucrats are rarely right, so I find this hard to understand that the Turks can be even more ignorant. At best I can tell you that even if Turkish politicians are indeed so pathetic as you claim there is third option when both sides may be wrong. If this is true, still there is no sense to copy nonessential ideas but rather search for effective solutions.

What I find interesting in your post is the fact that you mentioned Turkish culture. We in Poland rather don't have some clear views on Turkish people. Perhaps you will be able to explain to us a bit about Turkey. May I ask you what is your problem with Turkish culture?



Fair enough if so. I just don't like self-proclaimed democrats who cannot accept the results of democratic voting.

Yes, you are :) I'm American. Or as I responded recently when someone else here at PF asked me if in fact I'm American (as I had said that I'm not Polish by birth or extraction); "Guilty by association, don't shoot!" --:) LOL

I've been called far worse, believe me. Yet another wondered if I'm a Republican, to which I countered "While we're calling each other names, might you please tell me yours??" No response.

Am still waiting :)

well modern linguistics dont think so. Sure there are similarities, but they are probably result of interaction than of relation. It is understandable when you consider that Uralic (Finns,Estonians, Hungarians,...) and Altaic (Turks, Mongols,...) were living in same areas thousands years ago. But science progresses and maybe sometime in future the Uralo-Altaic theory is in limelight again.

Weird thing is: Hungarians dont like Finns and see themselves more as a Turkic people but Turks like Finns and see themselves related Finns. Quite a weird "triangle"...

We like Hungarians too.

In Ottoman times, Finns were Turks are our relatives. Because we were strong. Now, they say threr is not any relation with Turks, we are Viking ! :)

Maxx,
You're half correct in that regard. There's been considerable speculation regarding the Fenno/Finno-Hungarian connection for years. Guess all the 'trouble' started with Herr Max Budenz, the German linguist working in Hungary and writing in both languages way back in the 19th century. He postulated that all the today Nostratic languages (Merrit Ruhlen's term, not mine!), including Basque, by the way, had a common origin in the Ugritic family of languages.

Rather complicated to go into, but this is the "short" version :) LOL

Any questions for Turkey, Turkish people ?

What do you think is better,a turkish toilet or a european toilet?

I do like turks. During Euro 2008 I kept my fingers crossed for your NT.

In our history we were enemies and we were firends. But turks unlike germans or russians respected Poles as a strong and brave nation. After our victory in Vienna defeated turks admire Sobieski as a great leader and soldier. after decades of partition of Poland, Turkey was the first country that recognized my country as a independent state.

Today the problem is that as a islamic country Turkey is often consider as a potential threat to the western and christian civilisation. These days for many people in western world muslim = terrorist. I cant say that Im free from this prejudice. Besides all, turks have my sympathy.

(sorry for my english. i havent been speeking/writing eng for years)

you can find the both in turkish houses in turkey, but i prefer the latter.

It is true. I also mentioned this before in the PF.



I believe there are fanatics for every religion. Turkey is a secular country. People is muslim but there is not any law islamic reference. Nobody can be forced to obey the rules of islam. Go to mosque, to fast, wear head scarf etc. Everybody is free.
Global powers are working to make Turkey more islamic nowadays. Because it will be easy for them to reach their aims. Soros will be very happy if they win. It is not different than Ukraine, Georgia, Yugoslavia. Liberals are supporting islamics. They support current government which has islamic tendency. Majority of the nation is aware of this trick and try to prevent it. Turks can't be like Iranians and Saudi Arabians.

As a result the threat is coming from the west.

I think turkish toilet fits better the purpose.Europeans have a lot of constipation due to their invention.

McCoy,

bist du zufaellig Wiener?? Den Tuerken koennt ihr den Kaffegenuss verdanken.
You owe the Turks a lot, not merely the enjoyment of said beverage :)

Sorry, McCoy! Are you Polish or Austrian? I suppose my last message didn't really apply to you at all.
Apologies:) LOL

If we look deep enough we might find something useful coming out of Auschwitz for the Poles too, now won't we!

Why are you so keen on Turks gaining entry into the EU if most Europeans are against it? What is it to you? A jew living in New York!

'What's it to you?"

Was mich das alles angeht? Is this your question? It's because I'm a world citizen as well as an American and what concerns my neighbors concerns me as well.

"World citizen"...crap! People without roots are the worst!

PS: It's not you paying the bill should that happen (Turkey member of the EU).
And I know some Americans would be quite happy watching the EU spiral downwards in the wake of this decision...

muslims in europe is not good :(

Rootless?? My roots in the States go as deep as yours do!! -:) LOL