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Bratwurst Boy
Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  May 18, 08, 12:28  #121

Marek:
On that pleasant and peaceful note.... keep on practicing your English on our forums: Uebung macht den Meister!


Now that's what I'm doing! :):):)

Hopefully I can express my distaste of muslims in Germany much better in the coming years! LOL :)

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Marek
  May 19, 08, 09:19  #122

'..hopefully, I can express my distaste......'

Na, hoffentlich nicht! Hopefully, you'll learn the errors in your extremely bigoted (kleinkarriert) thinking and express more enlightened views, in whatever language you happen to be using!! -:) LOL

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Bratwurst Boy
Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  May 19, 08, 10:54  #123

Nah...with your help I will become better and better in english and thus will be able to bring forward my arguments (and I thank you for that!). :)

Bigotted or not - Turks/Muslims have no place here:



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Marek
  May 19, 08, 13:53  #124

Quite sure you understand the meaning of 'bigotted', Bratwurst Boy?? -:) LOL = mit vorgefassten Meinungen, voller Vorurteile usw.

Indeed sir, your opinions are QUITE bigotted!!!
But then, 'To Each His Own.' (Jedem das Seine und Dir das Meiste)

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Bratwurst Boy
  May 19, 08, 13:57  #125

Hey...I never pretended to be one of you multikulti wussies - "Intolerant" and proud of it! :)
My people will always come first!

You can love the Turks in your neighbourhood and stuff yourself with Döner as much as you like but don't force your view on others, okay?

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Marek
  May 19, 08, 14:02  #126

You may not believe in Judgement Day (Das Juengste Gericht), but one day, your intolerance will be your undoing (deine Intoleranz wird ja Folgen haben).

There's a theory that Nazism took root in Germany so easily, because Germany didn't have a solid grounding in the Judeo-Christian Ethic. Read Prof. Helmut Plessner's 'Die verspaetete Nation"' sometime.

Good Luck!

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Bratwurst Boy
Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  May 19, 08, 14:04  #127

Marek:
deine Intoleranz wird ja Folgen haben


Oh I hope so....the intolerance in the german public is rising...it's boiling already!
Many are getting so sick of you multikultis..

"Judeo-Christian ethic" my a**...stuff it!

PS: And since your german is so great you will have no problem to read and
hopefully understand this article. And now tell me again why Germans should put up with this scum!

URL

Just some quotes:

Täglicher Terror auf Berlins Straßen (Daily terror on the streets of Berlin)

Um der Jugendgewalt in Berlin Herr zu werden, hat die Polizei sechs „Operative Gruppen“ gebildet. Sie haben fast nur mit ausländischen Jugendlichen zu tun.
(To get a grip on the youth criminality in Berlin the police did build 6 operation groups - they have to fight nearly only immigant youths)


„Wir schlitzen euch deutsche Schweine auf“ (We will slash you german pigs!)


Jagdszenen auf dem U-Bahnhof (Hunting scenarios at the subway-station)


Überfall im Stadtpark (Ambush in the city park)


Terror in Schwimmbädern (Terror in the swimming bath)


And now all...THANK YOU for that!

PPS: I know you think I'm a bigotted xenophobe (as if I care), in Germany we have many foreigners but only ONE group makes all the problems, the turks/muslims!

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Marek
Edited by: Marek  May 19, 08, 16:19  #128

Thanks, Bratwurst Boy!! -:)-:) LOL ......for nothing. Or I should add... 'Thanks for the flowers! (Danke fuer die Blumen!)

Of course I understand the kind of rot expressed in the prejudiced newspaper media!! 'Terror auf der Strassse...' but 'terror from whom'?? From the Skinhead sorts such as the type you seem to side with or from the reluctant bi-products (inner-city Turkish-Germans living as US blacks must have lived during the 70's here at home!) of a multi-cultural experiment gone bad? I agree. It's hard to live in a salad bowl.....but sometimes that's what's on the menu ..and if you don't eat it, (not necessarily like it..) you'll starve.

Just some advice!

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Bratwurst Boy
  May 19, 08, 16:28  #129

Marek:
the kind of rot expressed in the prejudiced newspaper media


Yeah....sure...."rot from the prejudiced newspaper"! Man you have no idea! Your advices are sh*t and we did put up with it for far to long...you will see!

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Marek
Edited by: Marek  May 19, 08, 16:30  #130

I will freely admit to you that Germany, for that matter any European nation, is not the kind of 'Schmelztiegel' (melting pot) the US has become. Nonetheless, as Germany's past is particularly fraught with the pitfalls of mad plunges into racist savagery, she must be ever vigilant against this kind of xenophobia (Fremdenhass). We too are scarcely strangers to this sort of racism, though perhaps hardly as extreme in its manifestations (Hassausschreitungen).

Be mindful especially of the dangers in 'historical relativism' (Revisionismus). The Shoah was unique, albeit the potential for such Holocausts lies within all of us.


PS
'Advice' has no plural form in English. (he-he!) -:)-:) LOL

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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  May 19, 08, 16:32  #131

The potential for Holocausts lies within us all? Please elaborate

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Marek
  May 19, 08, 16:36  #132

Seanus,

Simply that while the European Shoah against, above all the Jews, was unparalleled in its systematic cruelty, such urges are hardly uniquely German.
Look at Poland, why don't you! The Kielce Pogroms occurred against Polish-Jewish citizens returning home to their villages AFTER the end of the War. They were massacred in the streets, practically.

Such atrocities never happened in Germany or even in Austria!

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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  May 19, 08, 16:44  #133

Bad blood was still flowing, that was done in rage. Although I don't defend it, I can understand it, and that counts

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Marek
Edited by: Marek  May 20, 08, 15:25  #134

Sorry, Seanus. Can't quite catch your drift, I'm afraid. Are you suggesting that somehow the innocent slaughter of returning Jews to their Polish villages after the end of WW II was justified???!

I'm probably missing the point. Kindly illuminate.


PS
What d'you mean exactly by 'bad blood was still flowing'? The issue of Polish anti-semitism is cut and dried, as far as most people are concerned, save a few fringe loonies on the far right. Or are you simply peddling us this 'left-wing dominance' baloney!!!??

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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  May 20, 08, 17:05  #135

It was symptomatic of the times, bad blood was abound. It was by no means in short supply but such displays of anti-semitism by true Poles was not as rampant as u surmise.

I said I don't defend such killings and am not even gonna attempt to justify it. BTW, what does this have to do with Turks?

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Marek
  May 21, 08, 07:50  #136

It has little to do with the present day tensions concerning Turks who dwell in the Federal Republic of Germany along with other countries. It does though have a lot to do with a racist disguised as morally relativist slant these days which attempts to explain, indeed rationalize or justify, obscenely blatant acts of prejudice for which no reason could ever justify such actions!

Granted, most Poles, for that matter, Europeans, prior to the start of WW II were by and large lower middle class to poor. Jews however, owing to the deep anti-Jewish sentiment on the part of the Catholic Church in Europe, were not allowed for centuries to join guilds, become soldiers, own honest businesses, farm etc. compared to their gentile neighbors. The only recourse left to many, unfortunately, was money-lending, heretofore forbidden for Christians.

As a result, when Christians returned from wars and plagues had ravished their communities, those of the Jews were almost unscathed....because they lived in ghettoes, removed from the Christian centers, by local laws. And so they retained their properties when many gentiles had lost theirs, giving the false impression to the Christians that the Jews had somehow 'stolen' their lands, holdings etc.
Patently untrue, the image lasted.

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Jukrek
Edited by: Jukrek  May 21, 08, 07:58  #137

as to Jews in our part of Europe in the past




and poor Poles

I wouldn't call Jews middle class :) after this clips we know why so many of them were commies ... commies were against rich :) so comapriosn to turks is good one.

we have different history books in Poland than you in USA. You know when we google "Jew" we have results when you google "Jew" in USA you don't see results but informaton that it is not good word. It has something to do with it.

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Marek
Edited by: Marek  May 21, 08, 09:44  #138

Anti-semitism has deep roots in Poland's history. For example, in slang Polish, 'żydówka' means '*****' (kurwa), not only 'Jewess'.

'We have different history books in Poland.'...

...You sure do, namely,.......teaching wrong history!!-:)-:) LOL

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Jukrek
Edited by: Jukrek  May 21, 08, 11:46  #139

Marek:
Anti-semitism has deep roots in Poland's history. For example, in slang Polish, 'żydówka' means '*****' (kurwa), not only 'Jewess'.


I live in Poland and I haven't heard that "Żydówka means Kurwa"

I know that when you call sb Żyd it means that he is scrooge. That is all.


Tell me Marek why in USA when you google "Jew" you have information that it is bad word and you can't see researche results.

and in Poland when you google "Jew" you have normal results.

in some way USA is similar to China their google version is censored as well ... and your stories about Jews are "charming" but don't show whole picture.

And If Jews were so rich in this part of europe so many of them wouldn't be commies and wouldn't cooperate with commies.

(move about Russian Jews)


-:)

and Warsaw



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Marek
Edited by: Marek  May 21, 08, 13:22  #140

'Commies'?? Do you mean 'Communists' perhaps?? You've got the same problem as everyone else in Europe; you know the right slang, but not the correct standard! If anything, why not then 'pinko commies' while you're at it.-:)-:) LOL Incidentally, I'll correct other errors at a later time.

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osiol GOLD MEMBER
  May 21, 08, 13:42  #141

Marek:
'Commies'

I remember seeing an Atlas when I was little. Somewhere within the USSR was quite a large place called Komi ASSR. I thought to myself "Wow! They must be really communist commies in that bit!" Okay, so actually I didn't.

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Marek
Edited by: Marek  May 21, 08, 13:48  #142

As in 'Kommissar'??? LOL Good one, Osiol. -:)

By the by, I didn't mean to nitpick with my corrections. I only trust that the younger Poles out there are as intent on improving their English as we outsiders are on improving ,i.e. 'polishing', our Polish. that's all.

Na zdrowie, towaryszy!

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southern
  May 21, 08, 17:29  #143

Personally I would be glad if there were no Turks around.

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Marek
Edited by: Marek  May 22, 08, 12:17  #144

'Your stories about Jews are "charming", but they don't tell the whole picture...'

No, you're right, they don't. I forgot to mention that the thankless history of the Jews throughout much of world history has been one of tragic misunderstandings based on nothing other than unenlightened prejudice, much of which could have easily been avoided if only the Jews had been allowed a place alongside their non-Jewish, not necessarily Christian, brethren!

Only a dyed-in-the-wool idiot believes that any race or nationality is essentially bad! There are always reasons for the perceived behaviours of others, not the least of which are frequently, indeed usually, economic circumstances which motivate people's reactions, be they Poles, Russians, Germans, what have you.

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Jukrek
Edited by: Jukrek  May 22, 08, 12:40  #145

Marek

google "Polin jewish paradise"

Yes Poland was called Jewish paradise ... some of your statements are untrue.

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Bratwurst Boy
  May 22, 08, 12:42  #146

German police takes the p*ss out of a Turk :):):)



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espana
Edited by: espana  May 22, 08, 12:50  #147


they are not hiting him ,,,,,,,,,why is funny?
this one is more funny


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Jukrek
  May 22, 08, 12:56  #148

Gypsies in Warsaw



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Bratwurst Boy
Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  May 22, 08, 13:00  #149

espana:
they are not hiting him ,,,,,,,,,why is funny?


Hey...they made him dance! :)

Jukrek:
Gypsies in Warsaw


The italians seem to have enough of them...
URL

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PolishXBarbie
  May 22, 08, 13:04  #150

Oh i love turkish people =) I love serdar oc. and hepsi and ya I listen to the music alot =) and the food is wounderful. So overall a very fun and interesting culture. And overall the men are pretty sexy =) I know recently alot of turkish men date polish girls lol

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