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southern
  May 24, 08, 14:02  #181

Marek:
The Nazis took science, research and cinematography, for example to new, undreamed of heights....


I cannot say the same for Turks.

 
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Bratwurst Boy
  May 24, 08, 14:18  #182

southern:
I cannot say the same for Turks.


Hehe...great come back!

 
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Marek
  May 24, 08, 14:21  #183

'I cannot say the same for the Turks.'

If what the Nazis called 'civilization' is for whatever earthly reason, your cup of tea, you can keep it, thank you very much!!

A civilized society is a heck of a great deal more than merely daily sanitation, flush toilets, solid, dependable infrastructure and all the creature comforts afforded a push-button technology. The Nazis may have been 'civilized' by the latter definition, they were HARDLY 'enlightened'.

There can be little disagreement there.

 
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Bratwurst Boy
  May 24, 08, 14:22  #184

Now....back to the Turks!

 
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Marek
  May 24, 08, 14:39  #185

???? Meaning?

 
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southern
  May 24, 08, 14:39  #186

Marek:
A civilized society is a heck of a great deal more than merely daily sanitation, flush toilets, solid, dependable infrastructure and all the creature comforts afforded a push-button technology.


I prefer a civilized society to a turkish society.

 
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vodka
  May 24, 08, 15:48  #187

Turks are good and decent people. That is what Polish people think about them.

 
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  May 24, 08, 18:05  #188

I had a kebab today and it was SUPERB

 
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rock [Guest]
  May 25, 08, 11:51  #189

I am Turk. I have never been in Poland and met a Polish but I respect Polish people. Although their history is full of wars and pain, they manage to become strong today. When I read all above, I see that religious, cultural differences are still a matter of battle among people and I think it is very primitive. 40 years ago German government demanded workforce from Turkey. Turkish people contribute German economy until today. Turkey is always ready to welcome her people who live abroad. If they want to live in Germany, it is not fair for Germany to say "we don't need you anymore, your mission is completed".

 
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Spade
Edited by: Spade  May 25, 08, 12:17  #190

Mate, there are some morons like that middle aged german BOY who spread hate and bigotry on daily basis and don't want to see friendly chat on this board, Let him moan and b1tch about others if thats what making him feel better ... Btw, did You read today that german couple who put their newborn baby on ebay with eur 1 starting bid? It was disgusting, really sick imo

Link : edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/05/24/ebay.baby.ap/index.html

 
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Bratwurst Boy
  May 25, 08, 12:22  #191

Hehe....no need for "spreading" by me...they have earned it through hard work all by themselves!

 
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Spade
  May 25, 08, 12:26  #192

Bratwurst Boy:
Hehe....no need for "spreading" by me...they have earned it through hard work all by themselves!


BAH!!!!

Post reply within 10 seconds ..

No surprise You're online 24*7 on this board and doing the Bigotry job, what a reputation You have been earning too..Ha!

 
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Bratwurst Boy
Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  May 25, 08, 12:31  #193

Umm...great...you showed that you know how a stopwatch works but that has to do with the topic exactly what?

Do you really think the intense dislike most Germans feel against immigrant turks is due little 'ol me???
Just compare the turks with the millions of polish immigrants in the last century...totally different. It's not the Germans who make the problems!

You don't like the message so you attack the messenger??? Great tactic - but won't work...

 
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Socrates
Edited by: Socrates  May 25, 08, 12:57  #194

We Greeks had so many wars with Turks and now we are living like friends. Maybe one day Germans will mix with them and everything will be ok.

 
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Bratwurst Boy
  May 25, 08, 13:03  #195

Socrates:
Maybe one day Germans will mix with them and everything will be ok.


Don't think so...the inter-marrying quota between ethnic Germans and ethnic turks is the lowest of all immigrants in Germany.

 
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Marek
Edited by: Marek  May 25, 08, 16:09  #196

Southern,

The question remains: What is the meaning of 'civilized'? Again, the Nazis considered themselves the apex of a civilized society, but were they??? Of course, not. Subject closed.

The Turks never developed the technological know-how of many North American and Western Northern European nations. This, however, is not by dint of their lack of 'civilization'! Japan is considered a more advanced society than China, but in fact, Japan owes almost everything in its history to the Chinese, e.g. their very writing system. Feudal dictatorships have had varying effects upon culture. Japan flourished during the Edo period, yet languished during the Meiji Restoration in the mid-19th century. China was the inventor of paper, gunpowder etc., yet remained, to some extent remains, a third world country to this day.

 
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southern
Edited by: southern  May 25, 08, 16:13  #197

Socrates:
We Greeks had so many wars with Turks and now we are living like friends.


Stop the nonsense.Last week turkish fighter planes passed above greek islands in aegean sea 100 times.Sometimes they passed every half an hour and there were iconic air battles against greek planes.What kind of friends are these?
Can't you for a while hold your planes in turkish territory?

Marek I will put it simple for you.Tell me one turkish invention or scientific discovery,just one or any cultural achievement(except from the turkish moustache which spread throught Europe in 17th century).

 
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Marek
  May 25, 08, 16:25  #198

The spread (but not 'invention' of.... LOL) of coffee throughout Western Europe, the fez and glow-in-the-dark wallpaper... OOps, sorry! The last one was invented by the Czechs, I believe, apologies. -:)

 
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Bratwurst Boy
  May 25, 08, 16:28  #199

Kewl...they helped spreading the use of coffee and the fez which now everybody and his mother is wearing...whoa! True Europeans!!!

:) (May I borrow that joke?)

 
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Edited by: Socrates  May 25, 08, 16:37  #200

Turkish-Greek 13.000 common Words



Souther !!! Turks are our cousins. We are ancient nation, some Greeks have Egiptian blood, some have Slavic. Most of us have Turks blood. Good euros have taken us to EU and we should be grateful. If we can be part of EU, why not Turks ?

 
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Bratwurst Boy
Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  May 25, 08, 16:41  #201

I don't believe you Socrates...I think you're an imposter!

This clip here shows more of the reality I think:



A video of greek special forces singing songs of committing genocide against The Turks and Albanians. Greek patriotic songs that are taught in Greek schools advocating genocide. Their slogans are on the recent graphite's that were written on the top of the highest building near the Ledra Street border gate in Nicosia in Cyprus. The graphite's stated, "Death to the Turks" and "Axe and fire to the Turkish dogs." ...


 
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Socrates
Edited by: Socrates  May 25, 08, 16:48  #202

You know what French talk about Italians ? You know what some Italians talk about French.


read comments

"Long live Greece&Turkey Brotherhood! Nations are friends not enemies we are even relatives each-other.."

 
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Bratwurst Boy
Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  May 25, 08, 16:51  #203

Socrates:
You know what French talk about Italians ? You know what some Italians talk about French


I doubt they sing about mass killing them...:)

And anyhow...why isn't Greece inviting all these turkish dregs from Germany if they so love them??? That way the greek would be happy and the Germans would be too! :) Deal?

 
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Socrates
  May 25, 08, 17:01  #204

Bratwurst Boy:
I doubt they sing about mass killing them...:)


Where we live we sing songs like that. Do you know what Serbs sing about Croats ? Do you know what different fractions in UK sing about each other.

Bratwurst Boy:
And anyhow...why isn't Greece inviting all these turkish dregs from Germany if they so love them??? That way the greek would be happy and the Germans would be too! :) Deal?

you mix two things. You have problems with Turks in Germany. I talk about my opinion.

GREECE & TURKEY Brotherhood!

 
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southern
Edited by: southern  May 25, 08, 17:09  #205

Bratwurst Boy:
why isn't Greece inviting all these turkish dregs from Germany


You know very well that Germany does not want Turkey into EU and uses Greek opposition as an alibi.In reality german politicians inspire greek ones to oppose Turkey and silently support them.

A slogan from greek revolution in 1821:
No Turk in Peloponese,no Turk in the world

Song in greek special forces

Do you see them?
They call them Ottomans
We will make our boots with their skin

 
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Bratwurst Boy
  May 25, 08, 17:12  #206

...very silently! :)

 
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southern
Edited by: southern  May 25, 08, 17:22  #207

Socrates:
Souther !!! Turks are our cousins. We are ancient nation, some Greeks have Egiptian blood, some have Slavic. Most of us have Turks blood.


Are you crazy?Turks cousins of Greeks?You think Demosthenes and Aristoteles were Turks?And Plato wore jijab and ate kebab?
The Seltzuk Turks came from Turkmenistan pressed by the Chinese who were pressed by the Mongols in the 12th century.And the Ottomans came directly from Mongolia pressed by Dzengish Khan.
Tamerlan almost dissolved the Ottomans and imprisoned Vajiazit in 1402.Greeks were allies with Tamerlan but he did not manage to finish his work because a revolution in China took place.

The Turks ruled over Greece 400 years.They are responsible for the disgrace and backwards customs of all these years as well as for the lack of any monuments and the destruction of the already existed.Turks brought the places which they conquered into primitive situation.They were worse than the Mongols.

Also as Macchiaveli wrote Turks had the bad habit to settle in the land they ruled.This created all the tensions in Balkans and continues to create tensions.

 
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Edited by: Socrates  May 25, 08, 17:33  #208

southern:
The Turks ruled over Greece 400 years.



Aristoteles wasn't Turk. Most of us are partly Turks. 400 years !

GREECE & TURKEY Brotherhood!
Turkish Greek Pop music
isn't it cool ?

Why you talk about that we are partly Slavonic and you don't mention our other roots ?

 
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  May 25, 08, 17:33  #209

southern:
Are you crazy?Turks cousins of Greeks?

In part, yes. The Turkic input into Turkey was more cultural than genetic. A close relationship does not necessarily mean close friendship.

 
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southern
Edited by: southern  May 25, 08, 17:44  #210

Socrates:
Why you talk about that we are partly Slavonic


Right.Do you know that the haplotype R1a can be found in a frequency of 25% among people of Thessaloniki?Do you know that cities of northern Greece like Florina,Serres have a R1a frequency(slavic haplotype) about 40%?There is significant slavic mix and it is obvious and known historically.Many Greeks in north,central Greece look exactly the same with Serbs,they even have slavic accent.(ThessaLoniki they say with fat L like the Slavs).

Socrates:
and you don't mention our other roots ?


Albanians.I agree that Arbanites are descendants from Albanians.They are still in Greece.But what is the origin of Albanians?No matter how much you search you will never find the answer.It is extremely complicated.

Also Vlachs.Probably they come from Romania(Vlachia) but they always had greek national conscience.They fought for Greece and spoke greek(except from some Romanophiles).In Bitola in FYROM there are Vlachs who 80 years ago spoke greek and now speak slavomacedonian.Anyway.

The Turks vanished from Peloponese after revolution in 1821.They also vanished from Athens.
In 1881 they got out of Thessalia.
In 1918-1923 they got out of Macedonia(500000),Kreta(200000).Now they remain only in Thrace(200000),Rhodes and Kos.(small minorities).

 
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