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Amathyst
  Jan 14, 07, 11:25  #91

Quoting: Bojownik, Post #87
wow did you pick up a polish dictionary? master of the abvious!


M is Polish that's why she understood what your nick was...she's also a very inteligent lady who could probably kick your ass in a war of words, but she choses to rise about it.


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Frank
  Jan 14, 07, 11:25  #92

Quoting: Bojownik, Post #69
Yeah but he wants poles to hate russians.

Your words......?...of course they are.....not mind....ergo you used the word.
Quoting: Bojownik, Post #84
have sexing with some one is different then sitting beside some one.


Of course it is...but its still a lottery......don't you get it...." aw well you shouldn't have sat next to them tough, you deserve all you get"????...thats sick.

Racist......yeah the name fits you well.....

Quoting: Bojownik, Post #84
acts of millions of poles dieing in the hands of russians


Yes that wasn't correct...will you settle for thousands then?

Still doesnt alter the conclusion the board has arrived at..........or do you want to guess?....


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Bojownik
Edited by: Bojownik  Jan 14, 07, 11:54  #93

Quoting: Frank, Post #112
Your point ?

These are statements of fact.......

Oh, I see you can't see the connection/logic...work it out for yourself..read them again.....



Let's get this straight you preach tolerance and diversity among aids carriers and that we should be letting these people come into our country because only thousands of them are infected.

Now you claim we should not like russians because of the past? Do you have a racist agenda towards russians? You have no place to tell poles who they should like and shouldent like.

do I have it right on the money? are are you going to reply with another idiot response? You have yet to comment on the guy that gave aids to these women. This really shows your bigotry perhaps you just dont like white people. Lets see links to these millions of polish victims at the hands of russians. Clearly nobody is taking your word for it.

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miranda
  Jan 14, 07, 11:58  #94

Quoting: Matek1, Post #109
It is called *poles tolerance to other races*

originally it was : Why Poles are so tolerant, since this is my topic, but the ADM has change it to a new one - don't know why.
I don't think that nationality matters and this forum (in case you haven't noticed and haven't registered either) is for all nationalities, as long as we stick to Polish topics, so you don't have a point here.


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Bojownik
  Jan 14, 07, 12:00  #95

Miranda do you hate russians? If a irishman is on here telling poles they shouldent like russians why arent you quoteing him for being offtopic? since you started this thread.

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Frank
  Jan 14, 07, 12:04  #96

Quoting: Bojownik, Post #114
Let's get this straight you preach tolerance and diversity among aids carriers and that we should be letting these people come into our country because only thousands of them are infected.

Now you claim we should not like russians because of the past? Do you have a racist agenda towards russians? You have no place to tell poles who they should like and shouldent like.

do I have it right on the money? are are you going to reply with another idiot response? You ahve yet to comment on the guy that gave aids to these women. This really shows your bigotry perhpas you just dont like white people.



None of that was readable...care to repost.....?..but I will try and make sense of it.....

I didn't preach tolerance to any one who deliberately infects anyone with any disease...ok..is that clear.....if this guy knew he was infected....its attempted murder...so let the courts deal with him....I have said this before...please read back B

But you want to have no contact/dealings with any black person....full stop.

BUT my real difficulty is...you've also condemned the the girls concerned........thats unforgiveable....

Quoting: Bojownik, Post #114
Now you claim we should not like russians because of the past


Nope...you said this not me.......after all, the crimes Russians have committed against your nation far out way the crime of this one black man.............does that seem reasonable.....or do 1000s of Polish people killed and 45 yrs of occupation not count as a crime?

I'm not telling anyone on here to like/dislike anyone...just calling into question your flawed logic........whiteman ok regardless of what hes done...black man not.....regardless...of his acts.


I dont see colour/race/nationality...only people.........you see all those differences and let your racist attitude rule your head......


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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Jan 14, 07, 12:05  #97

Quoting: Bojownik, Post #116
Miranda do you hate russians? If a irishman is on here telling poles they shouldent like russians why arent you quoteing him for being offtopic? since you started this thread.

I don't know Russians, so I cannot tell you (even though my family has suffered a great deal from Russian's hands). As for Frank - I don't recall that he said that, even if he did - it's his opinion and I would not argue with that.
I am not going to police the tread, I just started it.
When I started this tread I was playing Dvil's Advocate of sort, since there was another topic "Why Polish are so Racisit"


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Amathyst
  Jan 14, 07, 12:06  #98

Quoting: miranda, Post #113
what's that?


It's a puppet show, originated in Italy and came to the UK in the 15 / 16 century...but it's the whole - oh yes he is....oh no he isnt.....very pantomime....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_and_Judy


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Konik [Guest]
  Apr 26, 08, 19:28  #99

Polish people threat other races as an exotic show rather then everyday neighbour/friend. We had our troubles with Gypsies, we see what happening in France, where other cultures/races are starting to be dominant (absolute chaos caused by muslims, when thief, who happen to be muslim too got kiled in police chase), we also see, how black immigrants miliking UK social system and breeding like there would be no tommorow and their kids doing exactly the same (milking system). Mind you - I haven't seen many protests against chinese or japanese people. Luckily for polish people, it will be LONG time before nigerians/zambians ... you name them - will come to Poland, as our country is too poor to give them free ride for taxpayers money. We do not have to worry about muslims either in country where 95% declaring to be Catholic ;) If you try and point out that Polish people mass immigrating to "rotten" UK - yes, we do, but only because of money or education (or should I say diploma, as it is at least accepted everywhere around the world). I do live in UK from 5 years, I do it to get UK passport and get the hell out of this tears hole to Australia or New Zealand.

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masks98
  Apr 27, 08, 01:59  #100

Wow I guess this thread is pretty old and obsolete, but I just saw this movie "Katyn" about the indiscreminate massacre of Poles during WWII something that never gets talked about where I'm from, (the US.) So here I was feeling all bad for Poles who had their country and ethnicity completely savaged not so long ago, and now I see this thread. I know this is just a handful of dudes but it just doesn't make sense.

Anytime two people want to sleep together, especially if it's without a condom, they should get tested. When they don't and get Aids, it's not because they slept with an African, but because they had unprotected sex with a stranger. - which is 'f'-ing retarded. Africans emigrate to many countries, in Switzerland for example where I spent some time, and there's no Aids epidemic there. Other than that, it's great that Poles would mix with other races, it's kind of sad that this country is so homogenous, it means that people HAVE to get out to feel worldly.

Poland needs more blacks, asians etc, it would make the whole place more tourist-friendly, tourism is good for culture and economy, etc. I met some Polish guy here who plays in an African folk music band, he really likes that stuff so he's happy that there are Africans here to share that interest with. And there's an audience for it here too, which means that thousands of people are happy to be exposed to different cultures/lifestyles, etc.

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southern
  Apr 27, 08, 04:34  #101

masks98:
it's great that Poles would mix with other races


I strongly disagree.Why is it great to mix with other races?

masks98:
it's kind of sad that this country is so homogenous


I never feel sad knowing that I will meet only Slavs in Poland.

masks98:
Poland needs more blacks, asians


Have you asked Poles if they need more blacks and asians?

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lesser
  Apr 27, 08, 04:40  #102

masks98:
Poland needs more blacks, asians


You are racist because you think that Poland need more people of non-white races only because they are non-white. You look at the world from the racial perspective.


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southern
  Apr 27, 08, 04:49  #103

Maybe Poland needs more Czechs.

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Grzegorz_
  Apr 27, 08, 05:03  #104

masks98:
Other than that, it's great that Poles would mix with other races, it's kind of sad that this country is so homogenous, it means that people HAVE to get out to feel worldly.


Excuse me... ?


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Dan_of_Midwesr [Guest]
  Apr 28, 08, 16:34  #105

I have not been to Europe, but I understand that it is being over run by Muslims, and that the countries where this is happening are bending over backwards to accomodate these people. I have heard some very nasty stories.

This has been happening in the US too, but Europe sounds much worse. For the US it has been massive immigration from the Mestizos of Mexico, the poor people of Mexico, which are basically Indian people, who are very different from the Original Americans who settled the US (Northwestern Europeans mainy, and the Blacks in the South).



So, the challenge is to stand up for tradition, and keep the heart and soul of an old European country with great traditions.

I think the racial characteristic of a people is something to preserve. It is not a good thing to allow your culture to be over run by foreign people, and I think this is something that should be an issue for Poland.

If Poland is not over run at this time, maybe you can do something before this happens. Although, I understand that many young Poles leave Poland now. Maybe joining the EU does not allow you to decide who can and cannot come into the country to live.

This may seem racist, but I think it is merely practical.

I f Poland ended up being 50% muslim in 2050, as Italy and some other countries are projected to be, Poland would be a very different place.

The United States has been the melting pot...but traditionaly it was mostly white and many blacks in the South. We have a tradition of immigration, but for European countries, there needs to be some great acknowledgement that the European race needs to be preserved.

This is a serious subject. I seriously doubt the Chinese or Japanese would allow their nations to be over run by foreign people and to have their racial heritage over run and changed into something entirely different. Why should the Europeans allow this to happen??

I t makes no sense. The Europeans are a distinct race of people who have contributed greatly to the world, and are highly admired. They should not allow this unique heritage to be destroyed, which is what is happening in many European countries. Maybe Poand could learn from the mistakes of the Netherlands, and France, and now Scandinavia, and make strict laws before Poland disappears in a sea of racial change, also.

Once Poland becomes more developed, there will be big pressure from the poor peoples of the world to move to Poland, too.

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EbonyandBathory
  Apr 28, 08, 16:42  #106

Dan_of_Midwesr:
For the US it has been massive immigration from the Mestizos of Mexico, the poor people of Mexico, which are basically Indian people, who are very different from the Original Americans who settled the US (Northwestern Europeans mainy, and the Blacks in the South).


This is one of the more hilarious sentences I've ever read. Hilarious, sad, terrifying, all of those. First, the phrase "Original Americans" used to describe Europeans is pretty funny, ESPECIALLY when used to contrast Indian people. Also, it's cute you think the Blacks "settled" in the South, like they were on a pleasure cruise or something.

Dan_of_Midwesr:
The Europeans are a distinct race of people who have contributed greatly to the world, and are highly admired.


Those contributions are the direct cause of mixing cultures, races, and ideologies. The mixing and sharing of as many different ideas is nearly always good, and that is now different now.


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z_darius
  Apr 28, 08, 20:32  #107

masks98:
Poland needs more blacks, asians etc, it would make the whole place more tourist-friendly

And yet you are considering all kinds of swindles to stay in Poland. Why is that?

No. Poland has the right number of africans and asians - perhaps even a tad too high, so feel free to leave. If you want to see asians you go to asia, when you want to see africans you go to... yes, africa.

Now, do you think it would be reasonable to expect Polish culture in Poland, or do you think China would be a better place to get that experience. Poland is what it is 100% white minus 0.0000001% other. It may change, but hasn't yet so get used to it, or go back home.


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masks98
  Apr 29, 08, 06:51  #108

How can Poland have too many foreigners when it is almost 100% Polish? Why should ANY country be 100% homogenous? The world used to be like that, and it just made some people come up with the idea that one group HAD to be stronger, more intelligent, superior or closer to god than the other. Therefore, one group should be kings, while the other would be slaves

Also, to LESSER - SOUTHERN - Z-DARIUS etc; how can you disagree with this point? The very ideas of racial/cultural purity you are advocating resulted in the mass killings of millions of Poles, the history of your own country, and of other unfortunate victims of genocide disprove the idea that each "kind" should stay in its own box, with it's own people, it just creates antagonism. We're all on this planet together trying to get through the same problems for the same goals - show a little awareness, compassion and respect!

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Seanus
  Apr 29, 08, 07:06  #109

I agree masks98, variety is the spice of life and it's good to have diversity. More and more people go where the work is and if this means travelling abroad, then so be it.


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z_darius
  Apr 29, 08, 08:17  #110

masks98:

Also, to LESSER - SOUTHERN - Z-DARIUS etc; how can you disagree with this point?

I can speak only for myself, so let set the record straight. You are putting words in my mouth. I never stated what should be, but merely what is. Never did I mention anything about superiority, slaves and kings. That's all in your mind.

I actually responded to a poster who wrote what he though Poland should be like. I resent that kind of social engineering. What are you proposing? Importing some Africans and Asians to Poland for variety, and as objects for the enjoyment by worldly tourists?

How many would you like to import? Any special tribes/nationalities you have in mind? Should they be of randomly selected height and weight or a little more systematic selection should be applied?

masks98:
We're all on this planet together trying to get through the same problems for the same goals - show a little awareness, compassion and respect!

Very nice and reassuring words, but no, we are not all on this planet for the same goals. Not all of us want to impose burkas on their wives, and are perfectly happy with just one wife.

Look at some recently posted youtube videos about the ethnic and religious tensions in Sweden. Read about the same in Holland, Denmark and other European countries where people, after generations of their ancestors' work and effort, no longer feel safe, nor at home.

Sweden and Denmark were countries with some of the lowest crime rates, with crimes such as rape almost nonexistent. WTF was wrong with that? Did it really benefit Sweden to now have one of the highest rape rates per capita in the world?

Are the newcomers to Sweden really enriching that country? Is there really such great value for tourists in their presence in the country which gave them shelter?

I don't live in Poland, and it is my conscious decision not to vote in Polish elections even though I am legally entitled to do that. The people of the country will decide what they want, but whatever they will decide the status quo is what it is and I expressed, and repeat again, my criticism of statement that Poland has not enough people of this race or another.

As I wrote before, things may, and likely will change, but right now Poland is what it is, and if you find it culturally and ethnically boring then get the hell out of there.

If you need to find enjoyment in racial variety you are free to travel around the world. You shouldn't have a problem finding what you are looking for. After all about 80% of this planet's population is non-white.


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Bratwurst Boy
Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  Apr 29, 08, 11:08  #111

In Germany "worldly" mixing brings alot of problems...especially with cultures very different from europeans.
So maybe there is a difference if you have foreigners from the same cultural background or people from other parts of the world who don't respect your way of life.

Germany today:

Ethnic groups:
German 91.5%, Turkish 2.4%, other 6.1% (made up largely of Greek, Italian, Polish, Russian, Serbo-Croatian, Spanish)


Religions:
Protestant 34%, Roman Catholic 34%, Muslim 3.7%, unaffiliated or other 28.3%


Now guess which which group we have the most problems???
And you want more of them? Just to be "worldly"???
Thanks but no thanks!


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Wroclaw Boy
  Apr 29, 08, 11:16  #112

z_darius:
WTF was wrong with that? Did it really benefit Sweden to now have one of the highest rape rates per capita in the world?

Swedish chicks are well known for dishing out the punanee to just about anybody though stands to reason why they could have the highest rape accusation society in the world.

Bratwurst Boy:
In Germany "worldly" mixing brings alot of problems...especially with cultures very different from europeans.
So maybe there is a difference if you have foreigners from the same cultural background or people from other parts of the world who don't respect your way of life.

Germany today:


Ethnic groups:
German 91.5%, Turkish 2.4%, other 6.1% (made up largely of Greek, Italian, Polish, Russian, Serbo-Croatian, Spanish)


Would you mind posting the stats for the UK


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Bratwurst Boy
  Apr 29, 08, 11:23  #113

Wroclaw Boy:
Would you mind posting the stats for the UK


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Ethnic groups:
white (of which English 83.6%, Scottish 8.6%, Welsh 4.9%, Northern Irish 2.9%) 92.1%, black 2%, Indian 1.8%, Pakistani 1.3%, mixed 1.2%, other 1.6% (2001 census)


Religions:
Christian (Anglican, Roman Catholic, Presbyterian, Methodist) 71.6%, Muslim 2.7%, Hindu 1%, other 1.6%, unspecified or none 23.1% (2001 census)



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Wroclaw Boy
  Apr 29, 08, 11:50  #114

Bratwurst Boy:
URL

Very interesting site especially when you compare oil reserves from tiny countries such as Kuwait.


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osiol
  Apr 29, 08, 12:02  #115

Someone, somewhere on the interweb:
white (of which English 83.6%, Scottish 8.6%, Welsh 4.9%, Northern Irish 2.9%)

This doesn't make sense. The English, Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish add up to 100%. Does that mean southern Irish, French, German, Polish, etc. are all non-white?

If anyone asks me, my answer depends on how the question is put or who is doing the asking.
For one thing, I am not Caucasian. Caucasians come from the Caucasus. I come from Britain.


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Crnogorac
Edited by: Crnogorac  Apr 29, 08, 12:16  #116

osiol:
For one thing, I am not Caucasian. Caucasians come from the Caucasus. I come from Britain.


Quite correct. Originally there were Europoid, Negroid and Mongoloid races. The term "Caucasian" was invented to include the Jews and some other Asiatics.

Only virulent people can say that human is somehow different than other beings. As we have different races among other species we have differences among human species too. Nature created diversity and difference and we must act to preserve these natural creations. Only difference between human and other species’ is that human species has ability of THINKING, IMAGINING and CREATING.


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z_darius
  Apr 29, 08, 12:28  #117

Wroclaw Boy:
Swedish chicks are well known for dishing out the punanee to just about anybody though stands to reason why they could have the highest rape accusation society in the world.

That's an ignorant statement and far from funny. Tell it to your wifey and see if she likes it. After all she did have sex, didn't she? Would it be much bother to her to find herself in a situation like this.

Happy "worldliness".


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Wroclaw Boy
  Apr 29, 08, 12:32  #118

z_darius:
That's an ignorant statement and far from funny

it wasn't supposed to be ignorant or funny, just a fact based on the Swedish leniency approach to sex.


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EbonyandBathory
  Apr 29, 08, 12:33  #119

I won't speak for anyone else, but I prefer not to colonize my mind and keep people segregated.


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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Apr 29, 08, 12:34  #120

EbonyandBathory:
I won't speak for anyone else, but I prefer not to colonize my mind and keep people segregated.

you would be in minority on this board then:)
I had a strange experiance lately when talking to a Native American and when I asked some question about the past of the nation I almost got my head bitten off. Learnt my lesson (again):). It seems that even the most aware people will fall into the race/gender/segragation trap again and again.


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