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Polish Ambassador in Iraq wounded in IED blast.


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Hueg
Edited by: Hueg  Oct 3, 07, 09:39  #1

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7025517.stm



Ambassador Pietrzyk escorted by security officers and Polish soldiers after the attack


RIP to the man killed and a speedy recovery to the wounded.


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randompal
  Oct 3, 07, 09:46  #2

Logic: If Poland had not sent troops to take part in an invasion and occupation of a sovereign nation, then Iraqi insurgents would not be going out of their way to snuff out the Polish ambassador. Randompal doesn't approve of terrorism or any form of senseless violence. But it's just like Randompal always says: Play with matches and you get burned.


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plk123
  Oct 3, 07, 10:07  #3

but we're winning, right? lol


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Grzegorz_
  Oct 3, 07, 10:23  #4

Quoting: randompal
If Poland had not sent troops to take part in an invasion and occupation of a sovereign nation, then Iraqi insurgents would not be going out of their way to snuff out the Polish ambassador.


Crap. "Insurgents" have many times attacked people from countries not involved in Iraq. Even from UN and other people providing humanitarian aid.


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peterweg
  Oct 3, 07, 10:54  #5

UN, yeah right the organisation that applied sanctions to Iraq which resulted in a million dead children. They also co-ordinated with the US invasion and occupation, not surprising the Iraqi's consider it a tool of the west and a legitimate target.

And if Iraqi's want to kill any other foreigners involved in the occupation, its their choice. Their country after all. Occupation countries are obviously 100% legitimate targets as well, either in Iraq or in their homeland.


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Zgubiony
  Oct 3, 07, 11:00  #6

Quoting: peterweg
Their country after all

Is it though? I don't believe all insurgents are Iraqi.



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plk123
Edited by: plk123  Oct 3, 07, 11:10  #7

Quoting: Zgubiony
Is it though? I don't believe all insurgents are Iraqi.



ok there is one or two from another country.. quit watching FOX. lol


Quoting: peterweg
They also co-ordinated with the US invasion and occupation

no approval was ever given. not sure what you mean by that.


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randompal
  Oct 3, 07, 11:10  #8

Quoting: Grzegorz_
Crap. "Insurgents" have many times attacked people from countries not involved in Iraq.


Randompal hasn't heard of any Iraqi or Afghan resistence operatives/insurgents targetting Swiss or Swedish nationals, for example, although this may well have happened in the recent past. If Westerners commonly lump all Arabs together into one lot, it wouldn't be illogical for Middle-Eastern folk to lump Westerners into one ambiguous pool. Randompal supports a strong Polish army, and believe you Randompal, what is good for Poland is good for Randompal. Randompal is a patriot liuke none other. But if there's anything Randompal resents, it's Polish politicians and the "Men Behind the Curtain" running Poland trying to tell the Polish people that some sham War on Terror is important for the people of Poland, especially when it is well known that polls show that most Poles are agianst the war against Iraq.


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plk123
  Oct 3, 07, 11:17  #9

Quoting: randompal
it's Polish politicians and the "Men Behind the Curtain" running Poland trying to tell the Polish people that some sham War on Terror is important for the people of Poland, especially when it is well known that polls show that most Poles are agianst the war against Iraq.



yeah i saw the twin say that poles aren't doing anything to make him change his mind.. time to toss that bum out and get the soldiers back home. iraq was never a threat to PL and actually was somewhat friendly. PL made lot's of money off of Saddam.


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randompal
  Oct 3, 07, 11:26  #10

Quoting: plk123
i saw the twin say that poles aren't doing anything to make him change his mind..


which makes Randompal wonder who he's really working for, but Randompal doesn't want to get ahead of himself with funky conspiracy theories...


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randompal
  Oct 3, 07, 11:36  #11

Randompal recommends the following documentary/short film, cut and paste, watch then discuss:




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Lukasz
  Oct 3, 07, 11:50  #12

In Poland we dont have real debate about Iraq, we have election campaing and politicians rather avoid discussion about Iraq. News about some injured or killed soldiers in Iraq arent on the top in our media.

What I think about this war, USA fights for oil for their country and it isnt our business to be there. What is more they commited a lot of crimes agains people there. We shouldnt participate in this s***. We have send our troops there to seak and destroy wepons of mass distruction, and americans couldnt find any ... USA is rich country, with young society. I dont see the reason why we should sacriface our soldiers and money on war for oil ...

As to this killed soldier I m not shocked, in Iraq there are only profesional soldiers and it is their choice they are there. After USA have lost chance to win this war (everybody knows how), I dont think our soldiers are there because they feel they are there to do sth good.

What is more I think it was possible to make Iraq democratic and free. But it isnt posible now, and it is result of USA mistakes made there. So USA should pay for it, not we.


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Grzegorz_
  Oct 3, 07, 12:01  #13

Quoting: peterweg
UN, yeah right the organisation that applied sanctions to Iraq which resulted in a million dead children.


And 9/11 was done by CIA, right ? Go get a damn brain.


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randompal
  Oct 3, 07, 12:13  #14

Maybe the CIA did it, maybe they didn't. Unless you work for the CIA on a high level, you probably wouldn't know either way.

Randompal quotes Einstein, another believer in logic:

"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing."

Mediocre minds don't question anything, they just puff out their chests and claim to know everything when in fact they know very little. You can usually judge a person's intellect by the size of their bookshelf.

These are not Einstein's words, they are Randompal's.


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kochanie
  Oct 3, 07, 12:20  #15

Quoting: randompal
You can usually judge a person's intellect by the size of their bookshelf.


Not true. The internet is a much more powerful learning tool than books x

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TheDude
  Oct 3, 07, 12:41  #16

It's all good. He can bite styles.....TheDude is laid back :)


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kochanie
  Oct 3, 07, 12:41  #17

Quoting: randompal
before the comming of Randompal


you make this sound like the coming of Christ....x

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randompal
  Oct 3, 07, 12:42  #18

Quoting: Lukasz
In Poland we dont have real debate about Iraq, we have election campaing and politicians rather avoid discussion about Iraq.


This is to be expected, becaue Poland's participation in Iraq has been predetrmined a long time ago, the politicians now in power are afraid of touching the issue, even though most people here are against the campaign. Why do you think the three leading parties are unanimous on the issue? Any Polish politician that pisses off the USA is risking his entire political career. And because a military-industrial complex (although tiny in comparison to the USA's) in Poland also exists, they probably put pressure on the politicians to keep the Polish Army in the Middle East. They are making a lot of money now (Bumar, etc.)


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szarlotka
  Oct 3, 07, 12:43  #19

Quoting: Ranj
.....i have spent many a night curled up in bed with my laptop;)


LOL - I stand corrected. In my case having the wife in long SMS conversations is enough technology for one bed. Anyway my laptop has sharp edges and I nod off a lot


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randompal
  Oct 3, 07, 12:45  #20

Quoting: kochanie
you make this sound like the coming of Christ


Christ, Budda, Allah, Randompal - what's the difference? Either you believe or you don't, it's up to you. Randompal isn't here to convince you, he hath come, and whether Ye follow him down the path of logic or not is your business...


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BubbaWoo
  Oct 3, 07, 12:46  #21

there seems little logic to follow a man to warsaw

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randompal
  Oct 3, 07, 12:49  #22

Quoting: BubbaWoo
there seems little logic to follow a man to warsaw


Randompal doesn't swim with the tide, he swimmeth against it. Randompal doesn't march to the beat of your drummer but his own. Randompal spent half his life in the West, then one day he realised The Truth.


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szarlotka
  Oct 3, 07, 12:50  #23

Quoting: randompal
he swimmeth against it.


Er, is that logical? economy of effort would suggest otherwise


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randompal
  Oct 3, 07, 12:50  #24

Quoting: BubbaWoo
there seems little logic to follow a man to warsaw


besides, Randompal never said logic is in Warsaw. In fact, Randompal beheld Warsaw and he saw that there was very little logic there. But Randompal is doing nicely anyway, thank you.


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plk123
  Oct 3, 07, 12:50  #25

Quoting: Grzegorz_
And 9/11 was done by CIA, right ? Go get a damn brain.

have you seen proof that OBL did it? and i am not talking about the fake vid USA touts as the admition.


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BubbaWoo
  Oct 3, 07, 12:50  #26

splendid... although i must point out that my drummer drops a funky break every now and then

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randompal
  Oct 3, 07, 12:51  #27

Quoting: szarlotka
economy of effort would suggest otherwise

when Randompal has time on his hands, he sees no need to be brief.


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osiol
  Oct 3, 07, 12:52  #28

Quoting: randompal
he swimmeth

Thou swimmest against the tide?
But the tide frequently changes, Mr. Pal.


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Ranj
  Oct 3, 07, 12:54  #29

Quoting: plk123
and i am not talking about the fake vid USA touts as the admition.

Now I think you are being a little paranoid, plk......those videos were broadcast on al queda's website before they were broadcast around the world.....are you saying al queda is broadcasting the US made video?


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randompal
  Oct 3, 07, 12:54  #30

Quoting: osiol
But the tide frequently changes


Twice a day, if memory serves. That has nothing to do with The Truth.


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