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my polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do?


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ladystardust
  May 7, 07, 08:52  #31

Allrighty, I never deep-kiss my bf in a club, an mind you, I am Polish :D
There are certain behaviors all over the world - and women with no limits too ;)

 
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moire
  May 7, 07, 08:58  #32

Quoting: ladystardust
The man you're with doesn't seem to be very much into commitment, so you need something on your own to relate to. Coming here for him only may be great for your relationship at first, but then it may introduce a whole lot of frustration and disappointment, if you end up in a different place that you hoped for. In either case, talk to him about your fears and hopes. If he has some hopes for future with you too, he'll understand and listen to you.


i do have many plans if i am gonna move to poland. there are a lot of oppotunity of business between poland and china, in both directions. i really can do a lot of things in poland except academy. only the first few years gonna be hard, coz i have to learn this tough polish. i am brave. but all this depends on his commitment. i dont know should i talk all my plans with him or not. i am afraid he think i am too ambitious. he is always saying that women should stay in the kitchen

 
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miranda
  May 7, 07, 09:00  #33

Quoting: moire
he is always saying that women should stay in the kitchen

that answers your question

 
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Grzegorz_
  May 7, 07, 09:02  #34

I can't help much about the rest...

Quoting: moire
and i did contact a professor in Lublin for job. but it is not that easy to get a position in polish university as in western european countries.


...but If you have a doctor degree and are fluent in English, It shouldn't be really that difficult to find a job at the university (one or another) and cash is not so bad.

 
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daffy
  May 7, 07, 09:03  #35

depends on vacancies also...

 
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ladystardust
  May 7, 07, 09:04  #36

Quoting: miranda
Quoting: moire
he is always saying that women should stay in the kitchen

that answers your question


Miranda's right, I am afraid. You need to think, if you're ready to become a "desperate housewife" for him?
I see you're very much in love, but, as we say in Poland, "Do tanga trzeba dwojga" ("it takes two to tango"), and you need to look into your heart and answer yourself, whether he will want to dance with you for the rest of your life - and not to his tune only. <wow, got poetic ;)>

 
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Grzegorz_
  May 7, 07, 09:07  #37

Quoting: daffy
depends on vacancies also...


Really... ?

 
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southern [Guest]
  May 7, 07, 09:11  #38

I beginn to like polish men.They are really good.
Nobody knows everything for sure about women,even a tiny part.I just write my impressions.If I enter a club in Poznan and I see 20 couples next to each other kissing deep or girls with legs open(wide open) exactly after entrance,I suppose that this is not uncommon behaviour.In fact it does not bother me and I like polish girls for that.If they were unaccesible wearing tsantors like girls i muslim countries,I guess tourism in Poland would decline to sirrow.
Anyway this is not a topic about me or polish girls.I always have to defend the right to claim sth.Write your opinion and we will see who is true.It is simple.
If the girl here has done more than that,it is to me obvious that her boyfriend is not attracted to her so much as to marry her.In fact he was honest to tell that to her.I do not think there is a case to change his mind.

 
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daffy
  May 7, 07, 09:11  #39

Quoting: Grzegorz_
Really... ?


stands to reason, you cannot give a job if no vacancy exists. :?

you cannot just go hey, give me a job im qualified when the person is not looking for someone and/or already has someone working in that field

 
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Grzegorz_
  May 7, 07, 09:12  #40

Quoting: daffy

stands to reason, you cannot give a job if no vacancy exists. :?


Daf, I just wanted to underline your legandary wisdom.

 
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daffy
  May 7, 07, 09:14  #41

Quoting: Grzegorz_
Daf, I just wanted to underline your legandary wisdom.


...well you asked...I answered.

moire, when will you see him agian?

 
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moire
  May 7, 07, 09:14  #42

i put too much affection, effort, time, and almost life ( i had an accident on the highway when i drove back from poland to denmark) to this relationship, really hard to terminate it from my side. it is like you pregenant for 10 months to have a baby, how could you abandon it yourself.
life is a big gamble

 
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moire
  May 7, 07, 09:18  #43

Quoting: daffy
moire, when will you see him agian?

in four days. and for ten days.
i didnt plan this visit at first. his friend invited us for the wedding party, so he asked me if i am gonna come. i said yes. i never say no to him.
it is good to work in the university, otherwise i dont have so much time to spend on him.

 
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moire
  May 7, 07, 09:20  #44

Quoting: daffy
moire, when will you see him agian?

in four days. and for ten days.
i didnt plan this visit at first. his friend invited us for the wedding party, so he asked me if i am gonna come. i said yes. i never say no to him.
it is good to work in the university, otherwise i dont have so much time to spend on him.

 
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moire
  May 7, 07, 09:29  #45

Quoting: daffy
i know many many poles who hate the things in there homeland


i think most poles love their country, althoght they dont mind earn money from richer countries, and use their productions.
my boyfriend loves poland very much, he enjoys his social circles in poland, although mostly they drink vodak and even smoke up. sometimes i think he is a narrow patriotism(maybe i didnt understand his ironical tone). similar to normal chinese attitude towards japan.

 
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engineer [Guest]
  May 8, 07, 14:48  #46

i think you need more than an advice, i will like you to search your heart and know what you want for your self. where are you based ?
engineer J

 
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cleo14 [Guest]
  May 8, 07, 15:56  #47

Dump the loser!!!! there's more fish in the sea.

 
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shewolf
  May 8, 07, 22:04  #48

Quoting: moire
i asked if he loves me, he said if he loved me he should have married me. he likes me a lot, but not sure it is love or not, and that we can keep the relationship, until i find someone else.


It sounds like he told you long ago that he is not planning a future with you. He wants you to eventually find someone else. Why torture yourself with all the questions? I think you deserve someone who really wants a future with you. It might seem like he's the only one for you but time will make you forget him.

 
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moire
Edited by: Moderator  May 9, 07, 03:03  #49

i will have a serious talk with him when i am in poland. in fact it is not a good time to talk about the relationship with him. his career is in a mess, i know he is trying to be strong to get through this, i really dont want to bother him more. i should be supportive.
my ex was a french. he also told me that he had no plan or future with me, but he didnt want to break up at all. so we kept the relationship for almost three years until i felt no love at all with him. when i left him definitely, he begged me back, and offered marriage. how ridiculous.
I feel i am a loser for relationship, i am too nice to my men, and they abuse it.

 
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ladystardust
  May 9, 07, 04:09  #50

Quoting: moire
i am too nice to my men, and they abuse it.


It seems that you know where your problems are. Just don't be too nice - I heard that most men actually prefer "*******" ;)

 
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the traveller
  May 9, 07, 09:11  #51

just a small tip. Men (and also women ) prefer balance. Not extreme behaviours

Words are good but better show your intentions with actions, and understand his intentions from his actions :)

 
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sapphire
  May 9, 07, 13:22  #52

Moire, you seem to be an attractive, intelligent woman so why are you acting like a dmoormat in order to make him love you. As you rightly said, you cannot force someone to love you. He would respect you more if you thought about what you want out of life (apart from him). I think you need to really listen to what he is telling you and not be selective in your hearing.. I understand that you love him, but in my opinion he may care deeply about you, but he doesnt see himself with you in the longer term, so why waste time. My boyfriend is also Polish and he tells me he loves me several times a day.. of course all men are different and sometimes actions can speak louder than words.. but listen carefully to his words. Only you can make the decision, but in my opinion you deserve someone better who will respect your education and ambition.

 
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moire
  May 21, 07, 02:57  #53

hi, I am back from poland. cannt wait to tell you the news. my boyfriend asked for marriage this time. suprise!
But we still have no detailed plan. I have to find a decent job in poland, and he has to develop his company well to afford a family. we will see what is going on in the next few month.

 
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ladystardust
  May 21, 07, 07:09  #54

Moire, congrats ;)

 
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sapphire
Edited by: sapphire  May 21, 07, 07:36  #55

congrats from me too... hope it all works out for you

 
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ewa [Guest]
  May 24, 07, 19:11  #56

Polish girl is answering:

1-Is it normal that he takes you to family home? Usually in Poland, it means that he thinks about you serioussly But I know that there are some families (it s rather minority but still is), that the relations are "lighter" and boys can take to family home not serious girls, many girls.. But usually it means he treats you seriously

2-Don't ask him if he loves You. Maybe give him indirect sign that you need this declaration, because You don t know if you are not wasting your time if he doesn t love you. But don t tell it straightforward. I am sure that you can.

My polish boyfriend told me week after ouf 1 th anniversary. He was affrad to tell this, maybe at the beginning he wasn t sure and also he didn t want me to change.
At least it means that he is not a cheater:)

3-I think he should visit you. Get some money (there are many possibilities). HE SHOULD put some effort in your relation. Men are more in love when they are doing this:) If he doesn t want to do it, it means he doesnt care a lot or he is too lazy to love someone and you should run away.
Don 't cover his costs!!!!Polish are very very very proud. Even he loves You, covering his costs may make him frustrated.

4- I don t know why he never calls:(Bad sign

From your arguments is difficult to assess if he loves you or not. You should analyze some things in your head and assess everything.
1- What is he doing for your relation?
2- Does he care about you and is he intrested in what you are doing?
3-Does he help you?
4-Are you sure that if something bad will happen he wil stand by you?

If the answer is YES sooner or later he will tell you

 
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ewa [Guest]
  May 24, 07, 19:15  #57

ohhh sorryy I havn't rad last message!CONGRATULATIONS!!!

 
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adilski
  May 24, 07, 19:23  #58

actions speak louder than words

 
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Patrycja19
  May 25, 07, 00:17  #59

Quoting: southern
You cannot force him


moire,

Im truely thinking this isnt your soul mate.

it appears as though he likes the cake and eat it too situation. it doesnt matter
your career, because he is content with that, but your convienence is just out there
in the open for him to use and he is using it.

my suggestion is call his bluff. he knows your going to be available, so do what he
said to you, tell him, well, its been nice, but, I want a man who is willing to make
me feel like a woman. so I am cutting you loose..

my guess is, hes thinking he has you wrapped around his finger, and this shouldnt
be this way, its equal or nothing!

I dont know about you, but loving a man that doesnt feel that way about me isnt
worth my graceful presence next to him.

you are not a piece of dried up bread, your young and want more. so why waste
time on someone who is a prune? kick his shrively butt to the curb..

 
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sapphire
  May 25, 07, 03:32  #60

Quoting: Patrycja19
so why waste
time on someone who is a prune? kick his shrively butt to the curb..

Patrycia I love your way with words. :)

 
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