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Polish C-295M Crash


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Dice
Edited by: Dice  Jan 24, 08, 13:54  #31

Oh shoot... It looks like they were on a way back from attending a flight-safety conference. I can already hear those jokes on the late-night TV.
aircraft carrying passengers who had attended a flight-safety conference crashed in northwest Poland

Plane crashes after flight safety meeting


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Wyspianska
  Jan 24, 08, 13:55  #32

Sadek wrote:
now you are "cool"

I always was


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Sadek
Edited by: Sadek  Jan 24, 08, 13:55  #33

Dice wrote:
Dice


very funny


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Dice
Edited by: Dice  Jan 24, 08, 14:01  #34

I wasn't trying to be funny, where did you get this idea from? I'm just stating a fact and I'm not happy about it.


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rafik
Edited by: rafik  Jan 24, 08, 14:20  #35

Michal wrote:
No, it happens all the time in Poland. We have already discussed this topic before. Air crashes are very common and accidents grow all the time 'jak grzyby w lesie po deszczu'. It is certainly not the worst in thirty five years because I was in Gdańsk tewnty something years ago (circa 1986?) and a huge airliner crashed outside Warsaw and at least ten times that number were killed. As I say, we have already talked about this before. The trouble is, Poland buys cheap old Russian equipment and it fails.

you are a real retard michal.the only crash that happened and i remember in my 31 years long life is the one from early 80's when a famous polish singer anna jantar died.at this times most of our fleet were russian aeroplanes(i think tupolevs).after 1989 the LOT airlines have changed their planes to the newest available and keep buying airbuses and boeings.we are in star alliance now.why anybody would let as join if LOT wasn't safe?

edit;
there is a link.sry the aeroplane was ilyushin.
http://www.planecrashinfo.com/famous1980s.htm


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Michal
  Jan 25, 08, 08:53  #36

rafik wrote:
when a famous polish singer anna jantar died.at this times most of our fleet were russian aeroplanes(i think tupolevs).after 1989 the LOT airlines have changed their planes to the newest available and keep buying airbus

I remember it well. I can still remember it being on Polish television when I was staying with friends in a street called Asesora in Gdansk at the time. I was of the opinion that the plan was coming in to land after flying in from America but the information I was reading tends to suggest that the plan had just taken off from Warsaw Airport.

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z_darius
  Jan 25, 08, 08:58  #37

That plane in fact toook off from Warsaw airport. Less than 30 minutes into the flight they reported serious issues and were directed to return to Warsaw. The pilot requested an emergency landing on a military air field before Warsaw but was refused. The plane crashed in Warsaw. All they needed was a few more seconds. Had they been allowed to land on that military air field the crash could have been avoided.


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ukpolska
Edited by: ukpolska  Jan 25, 08, 09:06  #38

Michal wrote:
Poland was still 'backward'

At last Michal, you finally admit that Poland is an upward and modern country by using the past tense, you lovely reformed character :O)

Oh well mod moved it :(


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Michal
  Jan 25, 08, 09:09  #39

I meant in the sense of course that maybe the reasons for the crash may have been kept hidden. In England there would be crash investigators and an inquiry. In 1986, in Poland, I am not sure how much they would have divulged, especially with it being a Russian plan-not very good as a propaganda stunt for Russian products!

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z_darius
  Jan 25, 08, 09:13  #40

Actually, we knew pretty much everything about the course of the flight the next day, and the source was the official media. It's just that there was nothing common people were able to do about it. Much like UK's (and Poland's) participation in the crime called war in Iraq.


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atlantic
Edited by: atlantic  Jan 25, 08, 17:52  #41

Michal wrote:
The trouble is, Poland buys cheap old Russian equipment and it fails.


CASA is a Spanish aircraft company. Aircraft can fail for many reasons, not just equipment failure. Also, a Boeing 777 crash landed in Heathrow a week or so ago, an American built aircraft just a few years old, and one of the most technologically advanced passenger airliners in the world. According to the pilot, the engines just simply and suddenly failed, at a very critical moment of the flight.


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rafik
  Jan 25, 08, 18:59  #42

atlantic wrote:
Also, a Boeing 777 crash landed in Heathrow

another one almost crashed a few weeks earlier at the same airport when ran out low on fuel(read about it in a newspaper)


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atlantic
  Jan 26, 08, 17:02  #43

rafik wrote:
another one almost crashed a few weeks earlier at the same airport when ran out low on fuel(read about it in a newspaper)


Well, running out of fuel is all out pilot error, and pure stupidity. You can't put blame on the aircraft for that.


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isthatu
Edited by: isthatu  Jan 26, 08, 17:42  #44

rafik wrote:
one almost crashed

so that would be,didnt crash then? Or,landed ....BTW,link please,not heard a whisper about this aleged incident,what airline etc?


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DumbYankee71
  Jan 26, 08, 23:24  #45

Hey seriously, very sorry for your loss. God be with them.

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Michal
  Jan 27, 08, 09:33  #46

Wyspianska wrote:
haha. bingo. this crush isn't important to me

It would be had you been on the plane.

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rafik
  Jan 28, 08, 01:16  #47

isthatu wrote:
so that would be,didnt crash then? Or,landed ....BTW,link please,not heard a whisper about this aleged incident,what airline etc?

it almost crashed.we call it "near miss"i think and it's as important as the crash itself.it mean that there was something wrong but someone was lucky.i read about it in the sun.
nevermind thoug.that was just an answer to michal's accusation that planes have technical problems just in poland.

anyway,
just wanted to tell you guys that one of the pilots was an ex-neighbour of my wife.i know his brother,we used to go to school together.he wasn't meant to fly this plane.another's pilot health card has expired and he was asked to replace him.bad luck isn't it?
there is one more thing.it may be funny for some of you but i'm dead serious.my wife had a dream about teeth a night before the crash.our friend,who is into dreams,ghosts,death ect stuff told us some time ago that this dream means that someone would die.my wife was a bit worried so that she phoned her mum and asked if something bad had happened.mum said "no" cos at the time she didn't know that this guy was on board of this plane.we learned today that was him.this is the second time when someone had this dream and someone died next day.is it coincidence? .it send shivers down my spine.anyone else had similar experience?


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